Probably the worst thing I hate about this offense
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From a guy who says he “watches a lot of football” are you not seeing this strategy used by a lot of teams? Ha ha
I think they should run Devany's offense minus the forward pass. Don't worry, I watch alot of football.
I have been saying this. Run the ball for 2.5 yards/ play. You never have to pass
For those of us that witnessed this, the Frost offense in year one at UCF was predictable, not fast liked it was advertised, the passing game consisted of a lot of bubble screens. To top it off: Frost started a freshman QB that could not hit hardly any target he aimed for.
I was thinking "this is oregon's offense?". Ugh.
We saw some in-game coaching mistakes too.
Year one was not impressive, and had reservations after the embarrassing bowl loss to arkansas st.
Then came the second year.
Nebraska will get better but year one is not the time for judgement. A loss is a loss no matter the score.
Let his offensive system evolve, upgrade the talent level, let the QB gain experience.
I was thinking "this is oregon's offense?". Ugh.
We saw some in-game coaching mistakes too.
Year one was not impressive, and had reservations after the embarrassing bowl loss to arkansas st.
Then came the second year.
Nebraska will get better but year one is not the time for judgement. A loss is a loss no matter the score.
Let his offensive system evolve, upgrade the talent level, let the QB gain experience.
Just wanted to highlight this message. Biggest issue I have right now with the coaches is with the special teams. They are an area where I think the coaching should be much better.
On offense, he's trying to race a donkey in the kentucky derby and it's a struggle. In part it's the talent, but a bigger part is that the system he runs takes a ton of trust, and coordination to work, and that's just not there now--- particularly with the QB situation
What I hate about this offense is the OL constantly getting blown up every single play! Take that away and we might actually have something.
OL hasn't been good, but pretty much every other position on the offense has been terrible, and while RB's have been arguably the "best", we saw a well designed play yesterday where Michigan's MLB ran down our back in the open field. yech.
Oh, and our WR's -- awful with key drops and likely the softest/worst blocking I've ever seen.
Many of the sacks were due to miscommunication of the O line and between line and backs. Its one thing to get your *** kicked, another to get it kicked not blocking the right guy.
That to me is a coaching failure. It shouldnt take three years to learn pass protection assignmemts.
That to me is a coaching failure. It shouldnt take three years to learn pass protection assignmemts.
Two or three years for personnel that changes every year. Most of the sacks were due to Michigan's speed.
Of course YOU could find the right guy to block when things are moving a hundred miles per hour.
And better yet, you never have to punt!
Catch50, there’s a reason you have over 13,000 posts and less than 200 likes. Your posts are crap.
Frost will never win anything with this offense? Really? He’s too stupid to know this I guess? Why the heck are we paying him $35 million for this offense if he’ll never win with it? Guaranteed...
Frost is a smart guy and a winner. He will evolve this offense however he needs to in order to make it successful in the B1G.
And I for one will not lose sleep over a whiny baby who can’t stand this offense.
You’ve said your piece. Now go away. The last thing we need is week after week of this same crap from you. The team will improve in time. Somehow, I don’t think you will.
Frost will never win anything with this offense? Really? He’s too stupid to know this I guess? Why the heck are we paying him $35 million for this offense if he’ll never win with it? Guaranteed...
Frost is a smart guy and a winner. He will evolve this offense however he needs to in order to make it successful in the B1G.
And I for one will not lose sleep over a whiny baby who can’t stand this offense.
You’ve said your piece. Now go away. The last thing we need is week after week of this same crap from you. The team will improve in time. Somehow, I don’t think you will.
Watch Stanford yesterday. What offense are they running? tOSU? Bama?
Michigan runs a pro-style and can't win a big game to save it's ***. After yesterday, I would say, they have the athletes to win.
I am willing to give Frost time to get the guys for his brand of football.
Michigan runs a pro-style and can't win a big game to save it's ***. After yesterday, I would say, they have the athletes to win.
I am willing to give Frost time to get the guys for his brand of football.
Try 1 or 2, and I'm fine with it. Eradicate the nonsense, get rid of it, once and for all.
There is no turning back, or hearkening back to a bygone era of triple option power football. Not going to happen.
without debating his post, there are people who used to post a long time ago before the likes appeared on this site.
How do the posts up here affect the number of wins in 2018?
The problem with board likes this is everyone doesn't read all posts. I DID say on a previous post or two that I don't want ANY option football.
I guarantee you Frost will change some things before he wins a Big Ten championships. I'm talking about getting the QB's under center once in a while. With a FB. Miles is gone but Ozigbo could fill that role. It wouldn't hurt to put a Boe Wilson or Matt Sichterman lined up a TE once in the while. When we need a yard or two or to get some tempo.
I said yesterday. Smashmouth like the '90's Nebraska without any option. Offensive linemen love smash-mouth so maybe our recruiting in this area could improve.
I guess that translates to what Riley was trying to do (pro-style).
I like it with NFL caliber talent, but at Nebraska, it's too hard to recruit 4 and 5 star WR from the SE and get 4 and 5 star pro-style QB. Just my opinion.
100% agree. NU is simply not going to even somewhat consistently get the D. Marino, T. Brady, J. Namath, etc qbs & wrs. Just my opinion also.
You are never going to win consistently without a pass/option threat; this isn’t mighty mites here. Executed properly the option game neutralizes at least one defender on every play taking away the defenses natural one man advantage they get when the QB isn’t a threat to run.
In another one of your many threads about this you asked for teams that have played for NC’s or made the playoff using an offense like ours. I hlgave you a list of many teams that have using a no-huddle spread like: Auburn, Oregon, Ohio St, Oklahoma and UCF. Outside of Alabama, can you name one team that has used a smash mouth pro-style offense to win big in the last decade or so?
I really don’t see how playing like Iowa and Minnesota will get us anywhere.
I really don’t see how playing like Iowa and Minnesota will get us anywhere.
There are some aspects of that they do that we can copy, but we have to be at the cutting edge in terms of innovation to win a national title again. Most teams that win national title (virtually all of them) are in the prime recruiting states or one away from those spots.
We aren't any of those things and are closer to Minnesota than we are to Auburn in terms of recruiting base. So.. we need an edge
Agree 100%. In fact I firmly believe that is what defined TO, he was an innovator and cutting-edge. And that’s what we need Frost to be. Three yards and a could of dust, no passing game, no threat of the QB run, is not.
Good points! However, when your OLine gets consistently & instantly run over, there's really nothing magical a HC can do to solve anything. With a marginal (at best!) OLine, SF's hands are tied.
Iowa or Wisconsin would be a MASSIVE upgrade. SF will get us even better than them but for "now" it would be a gift from God.
the run/pass threat didn't work well enough for Osborne because even in those days the recruiting inbalance made it almost impossible for us to get a good enough QB and good enough RB's and good enough WR's to threaten the schools who could recruit the kind of speed to defend that.
So Osborne added the QB run into that mix as his innovation -- Power, Option, passing enough to threaten the safeties and force them to make tough decisions.