Grant slower than Cioffi, Hicks, Edwards. Yikes, that may not be fast enough for CFL. No NFL in the RU 2018 Pro Day group I'm afraid. Hamilton, while I tremendously admire his effort, needs to give it up and pursue to rest of his life outside football. All of this shows how damn fragile all of these guys are - one injury can take that tiny bit away that ends hopes of being a pro. Best to all of them.
Pro Day - Grant 4th fastest
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Joseph's performance was definitely combine and NFL worthy. 6'3" 299 lbs, 24 reps, and 4.9 second forty
Bummer that his 40 time will hurt him even though he has proven himself on the field. Yeah it’s against college competition and the measureables are helpful in projecting success at the next level, but doesn’t count towards the intangibles of just being a baller.
Shawn Tucker. He had talent equal to Moses, Underwood and Britt. He had a devastating knee injury against Howard in the 4th game of the 2006 season. I often wonder if he could have been the tipping point in the WVU game if he was healthy. Anyway, even when he came back from that he was never the same.
I think the scarier thing is that we had a DE that weighed under 240 and couldn't run a sub 5.0 40, that couldn't even do half as many bench press reps as a WR who weighed 60 pounds less.
I agree. Its amazing Davis was able to do as well as he did with those horrible measurables. Overall the RU pro day results highlights the talent level imbalance Ash has been trying to overcome.
Athleticism, speed, and talent lacking
Hopefully the guys Ash has been bringing in are more in line with what you would expect from Power 5 athletes
But somehow he had 5 more reps in the bench press than Edwards.. who woulda expected that?
17 reps by Edwards is respectable but the 22 reps by Grant at his size is exceptional.
To be fair, if you can't work out using your lower body, you'll do more upper body stuff, so that could explain Grant's impressive bench press numbers for his size.
Grant's bench is exceptional but it really means nothing with respect to being a wide receiver.
Was at that game. A real bummer that he got hurt in the 2nd Half of the Howard game IIRC.
Grant was never fast. His agility is what was incredible. His speed was very average for his size. His 40 isn't surprising to me. I would be interested in what his 3 cone and shuttle were.
I would bet that if not for the major ankle injury suffered against Iowa Grant would have run in the 4.5 range which is definitely fast
This is why we are continually beaten to the edge on the DL.
Need bigger, faster, more Athletic DEs in the Program in a hurry.
I am a pretty positive and realistic guy. Numbers are the numbers but I saw grant outrun Michigan last year. I think he can make people miss and he catches the ball on kicks , he’s gotta be valuable somewhere to someone with those skills.
Was thinking more in the 4.48 - 4.
52 range. 4.57 is fast but for a slot receiver/returner his size a little better was probably be expected. Again, without the injury he probably would have been faster
If these stats weren’t a reality check for all Rutgers fans then there is no hope...What did many here say...Undetsized at many positions... lack of speed at key spots such as LB and WR... The only guy who may get a nibble is Joseph and honestly can Kemoko stay healthy for a day?...Darnel Davis 6’ 0” actually would be smallish on many high school teams today...Hamilton at 6’1” may be a great technician but sorry he is much to small...Guess he lost a few inches from knee surgery. Ross Douglas , Martin , Hicks just are not fast or big enough...Gus Edwards probably has a shot as a free agent...I hope the next 2 classes continue to improve under Ash but it is not going to be easy.
Grant was the kind of player RR recruited for his offense, not necessarily fast, but certainly one of the quickest, by far, on the field.
Being undersized was definitely a significant issue but having undersized guys with average at best athleticism only compounds the issue
Not true, upper body strength as a WR = better ability to beat press coverage
I think most agree we have stink players . Grant was not one of them. He got hurt and still has skills that gets him a training camp invite.
Sanu ran a 4.65 at the combine. He was obviously always faster than that. I don't know if Grant is slow from injury but I saw guys gain a lot of ground on him from behind (Michigan TD run). Thing about Grant is he makes cuts without slowing down a hitch.
Cioffi ran a nice 40 and looked good in drills. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends on on specials somewhere.
Cioffi ran a nice 40 and looked good in drills. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends on on specials somewhere.
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If you think 170 lb Grant benched 225 for 22 reps than I have a bridge to sell you.
Some people are just naturally strong.
I mean yeah if she shortarmed quite a few of the reps, then that can inflate his total.
How about Truthers unite. Numbers don't lie and the numbers say that several recent players did not have the size, athleticism , or both to excel at the Power 5 level. The fact that very few NFL caliber players have come out of program in recent years speaks volumes.
He may have had some "home cooking", we dont know but it certainly is not impossible for someone of his size to achieve this feat
JANARION GRANT (5-9, 177)
Bench: 22.
Vertical jump: 32.
Broad jump: 10-2.
1st 40: 4.65.
2nd 40: 4.57.
3-cone: 7.07.
20 shuttle: 4.43.
60 shuttle: 11.56.
All results are here at nj.com
Gary Brackett.. football smarts can mean he is already headed in the right direction before the clock starts on his "40 time"
Sanu was sick at combine, he ran under 4.5 at RU’s pro day. I think Grant definitely lost a step from his injury unfortunately. Would have run mid 4.4’s at worst if Desmond King had never stepped on his foot
Gary Bracketf wasn’t 190 lbs. And he was a really good linebacker. One of my favorite linebackers was Devraun Thompson who didn’t have the measurables. But he was a beast. But Ross Douglas doesn’t compare to either.