If Cam isn’t confident in his shooting and isn’t really looking to take 3s, he really should be sitting. Start Hyatt instead.
Pretty glaring in the last 3 games
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He’s very inconsistent. Not going to write him off because he’s bounced back before, but it’s obvious there is a very fine line between being effective or not at this level of competition
Cam needs to play. He contributes even when his outside shot is missing. When he's hitting his threes Rutgers is just so much better. It's vital that he gets going with his outside game. Right now he's not letting the game come to him --he's forcing his shots.
Maybe we could run some sets to get him open!!??
Too complicated. Need to pass to Cliff 8 feet from the basket instead so he can dribble it off his foot or throw it straight at the front of the rim 6 times a game instead.
We didn’t lose today because of offense. Mag and Hyatt more than gave us enough to make up for Cam. With that said, we officially have a Cam issue. The missed front end of the one and one was a clear sign to me that it’s not simply tough defense.
Not when he's following up bricks with frustration fouls. That's an express ticket to pine riding.
Agreed we run nothing for him
Has nothing to do with the level. He's scored very well at this level. He's pressing & tight with his shot.
Cam isn't getting enough shots on a team that is starving for 3 pointers in order to match points with a offensive juggernaut like Iowa.The problem with Spencer and other players on the team is that they have get difficulty creating and making shots off the dribble.The next two recruiting classes will address that problem.
Of course it does. It’s a major challenge for him to get shots off. He’s inconsistent at this level for a reason
The problem is no one else can shoot. His defender is on him like glue. Every game he gets nothing but inches along the 3 point line. Literally his man never leaves him. He needs space to make shots. That’s basically it. And he’s not steph curry who can come off screens quickly. He needs space to set and pop.
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Shooters go into slumps. He had one earlier this season. Best way to get out of it is to keep shooting.
its definitely a legit discussion. Cam is not as good as all league but he isnt as unproductive as he has been of late. Need to get his confidence back big time vs Minnesota
Re: Cam
Iowa waa absolutely stifling him outside of the 3-point arc. That being said you could see him gaining confidence driving into the lane a little more today, and the 3’s he did take were going down and out, instead of hitting off the right side of the rim, which had been the case the last two games. I totally expect him to break out of it Tuesday night.
Iowa waa absolutely stifling him outside of the 3-point arc. That being said you could see him gaining confidence driving into the lane a little more today, and the 3’s he did take were going down and out, instead of hitting off the right side of the rim, which had been the case the last two games. I totally expect him to break out of it Tuesday night.
The problem we lost today was caused by sloppy turnovers (18 of them) and not getting back/finding a man to cover.
Cams last 4 games including today:
FGM/A %. 3ptM/A %
v OSU 5-13 .385 2-7 .286
@ MSU 3-14 .214 1-8 .125
v PSU 1-7 .143 1-3 .333
@Iowa 4-10 .400 0-3 .000
I get that shooters need to shoot to get their confidence back but Hyatt is definitely shooting with more confidence right now with his limited minutes. And I agree that turnovers were a huge negative right from the tip and our D against good 3 point shooting needs to be tweaked.
FGM/A %. 3ptM/A %
v OSU 5-13 .385 2-7 .286
@ MSU 3-14 .214 1-8 .125
v PSU 1-7 .143 1-3 .333
@Iowa 4-10 .400 0-3 .000
I get that shooters need to shoot to get their confidence back but Hyatt is definitely shooting with more confidence right now with his limited minutes. And I agree that turnovers were a huge negative right from the tip and our D against good 3 point shooting needs to be tweaked.
Agreed - but adding Paul can shoot but doesn't. The difference in the amount of floor space Iowa has to defend against us vs what we have to defend against them is insane.
My take on this. Cam isn’t good when someone is in his face. He’s only 6’4 and his release is good but not super quick. Aundre is taller and has a quicker release. He is a better shooter when someone is in his face. If cam had space like we have the Iowa shooters he would have had a few. Our help d leaves shooters open which kills us vs teams with 4 3 point shooters.
Why we don’t run Cam through more double screens to get him some open looks is beyond me.
Reading that Cam needs to sit more; and Caleb needs to sit more; this team has basically 6 playing all the significant minutes; with cameo appearances by Simpson, Reiber, Wolf & (maybe) Miller; am I missing someone. so unless you want to play them more - we got what we got; And that certainly includes Cam & Caleb. The good news is - Mag & Hyatt are shooting better.
I don't know what games you watch, but we ran plenty of set plays for him today, he missed at least 3 shots, specifically designed for him and then somehow passed up an easy layup and forced a pass to Cliff in the 1st half, resulting in a turnover.
The entire structure of the offense is set up to free him and give Cliff opportunities. Cliff either rushes his shots or bobbles his opportunities away or Cam is not aggressive enough on offense.
We run the same stuff that gets the shooting guard clean looks or options to dart down the lane.....we ran it for Montez to get him situated and moving and he would just drive into defenders at the basket, instead of taking the floaters in the lane.
Spencer is getting opportunities and then isn't driving to get fouled and get to the line.....he then takes way too long, lets the defender catch up, pivots away from the basket and fades away for a 2 pointer.....those plays should have him at the FT, where his 90% FT shooting would work....it's a lack of aggressive/soft offense by Cam.
He has 21 games....and only 51 FT attempts on the season. 11 FT attempts vs Ohio State at the RAC, 8 vs UMass Lowell and 8 vs Temple, most of the Temple ones were late in the game.
That's 27 attempts in THREE games and 24 FT attempts in the other 18 games.....that's not going to get it done, he's too good a FT shooter to avoid contact, avoid drawing fouls, just to take turnaround jumpers.
I think 5 Iowa players have attempted more FTs than Cam Spencer and 2 of those players like Kris Murray and Pat McCaffrey have missed multiple games. It comes down to mindset and understanding what value can be brought to the team. Iowa players are willing look for fouls, looking to draw contact.....Iowa stops teams from runs against them IF you foul them and if you have no ability to guard them 1 on 1 without fouling.
I think Cam is 47-51 on the season at the line.....Mulcahy is actually 27-30. If either drew more fouls, RU would be able to control the tempo of the game more, which stops scoring runs, allows RU to set their defense etc.
There's no point in having 2 excellent FT shooters, if neither gets to the basket, pump fakes, and gets fouled.
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