PRESS!!!!!

biazza38

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This was truly an awful coached game. I’m sorry, we did nothing to speed this game up.
Minnesota has the least amount of minutes from the bench all year.
How do you not press an undermanned team?
One of reporters better ask him about this
 

Mikemarc

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This was truly an awful coached game. I’m sorry, we did nothing to speed this game up.
Minnesota has the least amount of minutes from the bench all year.
How do you not press an undermanned team?
One of reporters better ask him about this

it was fine. D was great but Minny kid was unconcious
 
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Scangg

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I wish we pressed too against an undermanned team

We also should have been doubling those high ball screens on Willis much sooner and harder. Rotate off their worst offensive players. They had a couple bums who we should have forced to make shots, even open ones to force Willis from shooting
 
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This was truly an awful coached game. I’m sorry, we did nothing to speed this game up.
Minnesota has the least amount of minutes from the bench all year.
How do you not press an undermanned team?
One of reporters better ask him about this
Agree! No excuse not to. We needed to take them out of their rhythm any which way… by pressing or more physical half court defense. Even by starting to foul Willis on his shots. Make him think he’s going to get fouled in order to get him out of his comfort zone. Send him to the foul line where he is awful which gets to his head and affects his outside shooting. Bottom line is that the RU coaching staff had to change things up and didn’t.
 
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ancienthooper

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It depends what type of “press” you’re talking about. If it’s a soft press designed to make the other team use a few more seconds of clock, ok. At this level, virtually nobody uses kamikaze press as the players are just too good. How much press do you see in the NBA?
 

biazza38

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Agree! No excuse not to. We needed to take them out of their rhythm any which way… by pressing or more physical half court defense. Even by starting to foul Willis on his shots. Make him think he’s going to get fouled in order to get him out of his comfort zone. Send him to the foul line where he is awful which gets to his head and affects his outside shooting. Bottom line is that the RU coaching staff had to change things up and didn’t.
We did nothing to get them out of their comfort zone. It was laughable and inexcusable. Just like the players have to play every game, the coaches have to coach every game too
 

Scangg

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It depends what type of “press” you’re talking about. If it’s a soft press designed to make the other team use a few more seconds of clock, ok. At this level, virtually nobody uses kamikaze press as the players are just too good. How much press do you see in the NBA?
Minnesota missing a bunch of starters isn't the NBA
 

ancienthooper

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Lol. Down a couple frontcourt players doesn’t make MN a CYO team. At this level if it was that easy how come everybody doesn’t do it?
 

biazza38

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Lol. Down a couple frontcourt players doesn’t make MN a CYO team. At this level if it was that easy how come everybody doesn’t do it?
Down a couple of front court players?!?! lol they were down three players and they get the least amount of minutes from their bench in all of college basketball. Press them!! Tire them out. Do something to get them out of their comfort zone. It was inexcusable what we did today.
 

ancienthooper

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Turn it around. Any coach at this level who doesn’t know how to effectively beat full court pressure is incompetent and will surely be fired. Rutgers would handle a full court press with their end of bench guys. It’s HARD to press at this level.
 
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Jtung230

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Turn it around. Any coach at this level who doesn’t know how to effectively beat full court pressure is incompetent and will surely be fired. Rutgers would handle a full court press with their end of bench guys. It’s HARD to press at this level.
We can’t handle the press with our starters. We don’t have a PG.
 
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biazza38

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Turn it around. Any coach at this level who doesn’t know how to effectively beat full court pressure is incompetent and will surely be fired. Rutgers would handle a full court press with their end of bench guys. It’s HARD to press at this level.
Did I say they wouldn’t beat the pressure? The point is to get them out of their comfort zone. Make them work a bit. Minnesota had three guys play 40 minutes. We knew they had a short bench. Tire their legs out a bit. So insanely idiotic what we did today
 

Jtung230

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Did I say they wouldn’t beat the pressure? The point is to get them out of their comfort zone. Make them work a bit. Minnesota had three guys play 40 minutes. We knew they had a short bench. Tire their legs out a bit. So insanely idiotic what we did today
Or make them work on D. We played a perfect style for them to mitigate the short bench. I’m sure Minny appreciate it.
 

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Beyond the rest of the comment the press is intended to get the tempo up to lead to more possessions

we are the better team today, no doubt and the more possessions we play the more likely we get the right outcome

pike allowing the game to be 60 possessions per team (or whatever it was) was a mistake plain and simple
 
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biazza38

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Beyond the rest of the comment the press is intended to get the tempo up to lead to more possessions

we are the better team today, no doubt and the more possessions we play the more likely we get the right outcome

pike allowing the game to be 60 possessions per team (or whatever it was) was a mistake plain and simple
Honestly, it’s almost as if he doesn’t know basketball. He did a great job against Iowa, but today was a total mental lapse
 

bethlehemfan

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The only thing I can think of is maybe pike felt our guys had tired legs and he didn’t trust the bench on the road.
 

RU848789

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This was truly an awful coached game. I’m sorry, we did nothing to speed this game up.
Minnesota has the least amount of minutes from the bench all year.
How do you not press an undermanned team?
One of reporters better ask him about this
Just wondered in my post-game post (just finished watching) why we didn't press more given they had 8 guys and they only got 6 minutes, combined from their bench.
 
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biazza38

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if he didn’t know basketball, how did he do a “great job against Iowa”?
That’s not what I said. I said it’s almost as if he doesn’t know basketball. My point being it was that bad of a coaching job. Complete opposite of what we saw against Iowa
 

Mikemarc

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That’s not what I said. I said it’s almost as if he doesn’t know basketball. My point being it was that bad of a coaching job. Complete opposite of what we saw against Iowa

but why would you think that? He did a phenomenal job vs Iowa..suddenly he lost all his basketball knowledge 3 days later?

Sorry, but just a dumb thing to think maybe our D1 power five coach doesn’t know basketball. I get people are frustrated but that’s just a dumb thought. Sorry.
 

SeaGlass

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Not sure about our slow team pressing but up tempo would have been nice against a depleted team….and don’t ever criticize Pike..he’s a God
Up tempo and drive to the basked, they have no big shot blocker and to get them in foul trouble.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Wish we had that short kid to come off our bench….and you can’t just press if you are not a pressing team…it doesn’t work that way. Our team is very slow and a press with out continuous practice could have been a disaster.

Pushing the ball upcourt, however, is a different story. We are capable of running a fast break, and it wouldn’t allow them to set up in the zone that once again confused the hell out of us.

What was really puzzling is when we went to a zone, to allow the game to get even slower…smh.
 
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rufeelinit

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Maybe we did not press because we don't execute it very well.

Maybe we did not press because we would have needed to play our bench more than he wanted to. Guys like Miller, Mag and Hyatt might be more effective than our starters in a press.

Don't disagree that it was worth trying given the situation.

I do think pressing can be effective at this level as we struggled the limited number of times Iowa pressed us the other night.
 
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biazza38

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but why would you think that? He did a phenomenal job vs Iowa..suddenly he lost all his basketball knowledge 3 days later?

Sorry, but just a dumb thing to think maybe our D1 power five coach doesn’t know basketball. I get people are frustrated but that’s just a dumb thought. Sorry.
Dude! You’re not reading what I’m saying. I’m not saying he doesn’t know basketball. I’m saying it was that poorly of a coached game that it looked like he didn’t know basketball. Obviously he knows basketball. But we did nothing to get them out of their comfort zone
 

goru7

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This was truly an awful coached game. I’m sorry, we did nothing to speed this game up.
Minnesota has the least amount of minutes from the bench all year.
How do you not press an undermanned team?
One of reporters better ask him about this
You make a good point as I would have pressed or done more to get their 2 guys out of their rhythm . But let’s look at why Pike did this. First, he knew his guys exhausted themselves against Iowa the other night and did not have the legs for it. Second, which is what he must have been doing and he gambled and lost. He was thinking his defense was eventually going to show up and he did not think they were capable of executing a perfect game plan. Minnesota and more particularly , Willis (11-17) and Loewe( 8-14), not only hit tough shots but shots at the end of the 30 second shot clock. They hit between 6-10 shots with less than 5 on the clock and some at the buzzer . He did not think that would continue with 2 guys playing 40 minutes each . It turned out to be a gamble that he took and lost . So although I would have pressed or changed defenses to take them out of their rhythm , I am giving you an explaination for what Pike did. It didn’t work and it is frustrating that we could not capitalize to get to 2nd place. Pike has to figure out how to get out to faster starts on the road as Minnesota got out to a 17-5 lead that gave them confidence and hope. That needs to be fixed.
 

Mikemarc

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Dude! You’re not reading what I’m saying. I’m not saying he doesn’t know basketball. I’m saying it was that poorly of a coached game that it looked like he didn’t know basketball. Obviously he knows basketball. But we did nothing to get them out of their comfort zone

gotcha. It’s the “it’s as if” quote that made me think that something you believed.

my bad dude, glad we are on the same page.

but I don’t believe it was a poorly coached game. We made one guy beat us..and he did
 
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