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[Jonesy5960]

I think its also fair to add that Lester signed off on bringing in both Brown and Heck, and recruiting the freshman and RS freshman who are on the roster. So this is his group.

I'll wait to see what the freshmen can do before I start judging him on talent eval and development.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

I can’t believe they didn’t at least reach out to guys…and I can’t imagine a guy with KF status could t press Beth pr others with a pitch about being a QB a way from contending. I just have to think there’s a way to find some extra money or spend differently. Otherwise, how does Iowa get to a point where they can afford a top notch offensive roster? They’ll be perpetually choosing between QB and the rest of the pieces. And it risks losing a great QB you develop from being snatched in the portal due to the big bucks.

And if neither guy is solid enough doesn’t that say something about Lester’s evaluation skills? 2 guys and the 2nd year in the system for both.

The money feels like a convenient excuse. And not saying it wasn’t a factor. But again it allows KF to justify 7-5 or 8-4 as being a great overachieving year given the “constraints.”

As has already been explained they did in fact "reach out" to some QB's this off season. It seems obvious that as a group the staff felt like there were more pressing needs. As I said Lester signed off on bringing both Brown and Heck, AND the freshman that are on the roster, so I don't see how he could have a major complaint. Your last sentence , "But again it allows KF to justify 7-5 or 8-4 as a great overachieving year given the constraints". Look we know how you feel, and you've posted this same message, (regardless of whether its valid or not) countless times in this thread and others. So, maybe you should explain how the money involved is a "convenient excuse" since you must have inside knowledge of how much $$ Iowa has to spend , and what was still available, since your so sure its just an excuse.

I'll wait to see what the freshmen can do before I start judging him on talent eval and development.

And that also fair

 

[Hawkmanic23]

Yes, and Iowa is a 30+ point favorite. It would take a monumental effort to lose to this NIU team. It would be one of the greatest upsets in college football history.

Yes…but will Iowa cover the point spread?

 

[Hawkmanic23]

No.

But the way KF has handled the quarterback position, during the entirety of KF’s head coaching career… is KF’s fault.

My theory, and I’m sure yall will correct me if I’m wrong, is that KF is a control freak, and due to the unavoidable importance of the quarterback position in football: you’re putting so much of your teams success or failure on the shoulders of one approximately 21 year old young man… I can see how a control freak would prefer that that not be the way it is…

But that’s the way it is Kirk.

Perhaps, if that’s the case…just go with a wildcat QB and run it down their throats.

 

[Hawkmanic23]

Hey, dude, facts are facts. Fry played those schedules. KF was on the sidelines for many of those games. KF has built a significant portion of his winning record on playing nobodies in the nonconference. This season is yet another example. You could look it up and you'd find Fry played more than twenty Top Twenty nonconference teams in his 20-year career. KF has played about three. What the hell does the timeframe have to do with it? Playing Top Twenty teams 50 years ago was just as challenging as doing so today. Calm down, pal. If you really wanna get all worked up, remember who's running this country into the ground. That should keep ya busy for a while.

What are people “arguing” about here? ALL power conference schools (particularly those in the Big 10 and SEC) schedule 3 non-conference patsys. I would “argue” that Iowa’s non-conference schedule is more difficult than many others cuz Iowa is shackled with always playing a Big 12 school…IA State.

 

[10001110101]

One of the 2 QB’s has got to have at least a slight edge over the other in the coaches eyes.

So name the one with the slight edge the starter. But say both will play.

Dammit.

 

[Jonesy5960]

One of the 2 QB’s has got to have at least a slight edge over the other in the coaches eyes.

So name the one with the slight edge the starter. But say both will play.

Dammit.

I think the idea here is that they don't want to name an official starter because they don't want to make an official change if/when it's necessary.

 

[Sabula]

One of the 2 QB’s has got to have at least a slight edge over the other in the coaches eyes.

So name the one with the slight edge the starter. But say both will play.

Dammit.

Wait... that makes tooooo much sense... is tooooo radical for the tan man.

 

[IowaCityLit]

I’m at Hawk Tawk and I swear that KF just said based on the roster and youth/inexperience in certain areas the season could go in a lot of different directions. Huh? Was he talking about the position battles or the actual season?

I’m literally 10 feet from him and I’m not sure what he said exactly lol.

 

[IowaCityLit]

Also no clarity on QB. Kept referencing 2008 and 1987 as similarities. Going a few games before deciding on a starter. Goodness gracious.

 

[Hawkfan_08*]

Honest question. What guys weren't given an opportunity that went on to have success at the FBS level? And I don't mean that argumentatively as I've been as concerned about QB recruiting, development, play as anyone else.

Shoot, I know I am missing one but Joey Labas did well at Central Michigan. I know it isn't the same as Big Ten but he put up good numbers. He would have been more serviceable than the options we threw out there.

There was one more that I thought was in ther that did okay.

 

[Kceasthawk@77]

Shoot, I know I am missing one but Joey Labas did well at Central Michigan. I know it isn't the same as Big Ten but he put up good numbers. He would have been more serviceable than the options we threw out there.

There was one more that I thought was in ther that did okay.

I believe Labas got in some trouble off the field , that put him in the dog house.....

 

[3-D_chess]

Honest question. What guys weren't given an opportunity that went on to have success at the FBS level? And I don't mean that argumentatively as I've been as concerned about QB recruiting, development, play as anyone else.

The famous cratered Vandenberg season. 2 future NFL QB draft picks + an Elite 11 Wolverine verbal converted to Punter + Juco QB who transferred to a directional school and lead his team to a bowl game.
I don't think any of those guys took a snap that season. In the end it was worth it to avoid a QB controversy. 4 wins is pretty good at a school with resources that only allow for ONE GIANT SALARY and 2 small nepotistic ones.

 

[HMB Trumpet]

The famous cratered Vandenberg season. 2 future NFL QB draft picks + an Elite 11 Wolverine verbal converted to Punter + Juco QB who transferred to a directional school and lead his team to a bowl game.
I don't think any of those guys took a snap that season. In the end it was worth it to avoid a QB controversy. 4 wins is pretty good at a school with resources that only allow for ONE GIANT SALARY and 2 small nepotistic ones.

Are you talking about the guy who was the last Hawkeye to throw for over 3000 yards in a season? The QB wasn’t the problem in 2012.

 

[Oldman74]

Shoot, I know I am missing one but Joey Labas did well at Central Michigan. I know it isn't the same as Big Ten but he put up good numbers. He would have been more serviceable than the options we threw out there.

There was one more that I thought was in ther that did okay.

Whether you consider his play at Central Michigan successful or not, it was well-known that Labas had issues within the program here that kept him off the field. Some may want to overlook those issues. The coaching staff did not.

 

[Grayhair1981]

Are you talking about the guy who was the last Hawkeye to throw for over 3000 yards in a season? The QB wasn’t the problem in 2012.

QB wasn't the problem THAT season. The issue is that no other QB that was going to be the future starter got ANY reps in a season that was lost by the 9th or 10th game

 

[squeezebox_1]

QB wasn't the problem THAT season. The issue is that no other QB that was going to be the future starter got ANY reps in a season that was lost by the 9th or 10th game

Um, Vandenberg was definitely part of the problem in 2012. He had a 7:8 TD/INT ratio. Now you could argue that his numbers were likely due to one of the best WRs in the Ferentz era leaving, but he was not good.

 

[HawksRule73]

Um, Vandenberg was definitely part of the problem in 2012. He had a 7:8 TD/INT ratio. Now you could argue that his numbers were likely due to one of the best WRs in the Ferentz era leaving, but he was not good.

You're out of your mind. Vandenberg was a damn good QB. In 2012 he had no receivers, no RBs, a new OC, and we lost our 2 bookend tackles for the season on consecutive plays against PSU. He was the last Iowa QB to throw for 3000 yards. Do you know how hard it is to throw for 3,000 yards on a KF coached team?

 

[squeezebox_1]

You're out of your mind. Vandenberg was a damn good QB. In 2012 he had no receivers, no RBs, a new OC, and we lost our 2 bookend tackles for the season on consecutive plays against PSU. He was the last Iowa QB to throw for 3000 yards. Do you know how hard it is to throw for 3,000 yards on a KF coached team?

Well, I did address this in the post stating he lost probably the best WR of the Ferentz era, but to say he had NO WRs or RBs is a stretch. Weisman had 815 yards rushing, Keenan Davis the year prior had 713 yards receiving, KMM and CJ Fed certainly stepped up as well. I'm assuming the reason you know he was the last passer to post a 3k season was because I asked the question last week which will happen first, a 1k WR or 3K QB while pointing out it's a rare feat.

 

[Grayhair1981]

2012 was the first year of GDGD. It was a totally new (and wretched) offense. Vandenberg was a good QB that got a crappy break finishing his career in a system that was designed for personnel Iowa didn't have.

 

[3-D_chess]

Um, Vandenberg was definitely part of the problem in 2012. He had a 7:8 TD/INT ratio. Now you could argue that his numbers were likely due to one of the best WRs in the Ferentz era leaving, but he was not good.

KF (and later BF) gets inside his QB's cranium which is why their Senior season is never their best season. Stanley being the exception. AND THE EXCEPTION proves the rule.
A person would have to be clinically insane to suggest that letting a QB lose 6 games in a row without ever being benched is good coaching. You have to be even crazier to suggest there were no options sitting on the bench.