After a 3-0 start, I think that Dana and the Mountaineers will finally tame Wizard Snyder.
West Virginia 28
Kansas State 17
West Virginia 28
Kansas State 17
Prediction: Dana tames the Wizard
- Thread starter Chris from WV
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It will be a rough game. KSU has/had our number past few years. I damn well hope this is the game The Mountaineers break that trend.
My prediction:
WVU - 40
KSU - 34
The defense needs to force turnovers and and win the line of scrimmage.
WVU's run game needs to get going early. That will open up the passing game a lot more. Howard needs to be efficient and avoid mistakes.
If The Mountaineers can keep our defense off the field then chances are good we win. Then Holgrosen will finally get that KSU monkey off his back.
[WVU]Let's Go Mountaineers[WVU]
My prediction:
WVU - 40
KSU - 34
The defense needs to force turnovers and and win the line of scrimmage.
WVU's run game needs to get going early. That will open up the passing game a lot more. Howard needs to be efficient and avoid mistakes.
If The Mountaineers can keep our defense off the field then chances are good we win. Then Holgrosen will finally get that KSU monkey off his back.
[WVU]Let's Go Mountaineers[WVU]
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My head tells me that Snyder has his team ready and they find a way to win (probably with special teams).
But my heart says, "This has just gotta be our year!"
WVU 27 - KSU 24
NOTE: On 9/3 (Gameday) I've changed my predicted outcome. See Below.
But my heart says, "This has just gotta be our year!"
WVU 27 - KSU 24
NOTE: On 9/3 (Gameday) I've changed my predicted outcome. See Below.
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It's an important game.
We need to have a season where we beat all the teams on our schedule we are suppose to beat. The problem is I'm not sure if we are suppose to beat KSU or not.
I think we have equal talent to most B12 teams, but not sure we have better talent that most either.
We need to have a season where we beat all the teams on our schedule we are suppose to beat. The problem is I'm not sure if we are suppose to beat KSU or not.
I think we have equal talent to most B12 teams, but not sure we have better talent that most either.
Battle of O-Line vs D-Line. WVU has allowed only 1 sack in 3 games. WVU O-Line Will push hard enough to open holes in the gap. KSU will have to bring up their safeties and watch Gibson blow by them for 6.
WVU defense makes this a closer game but does enough to win.
WVU defense makes this a closer game but does enough to win.
Dana questioned that one "sack," too. Skyler scrambled and went out of bounds almost at the sticks. Not exactly like getting crushed in the pocket.
I won't trust The Wizard of Oz (after all, he does live in Kansas, as Dorothy found out) till WVU beats him. It's not just Snyder, though. WVU hasn't beaten Kansas State since 1930!
As for Snyder's teams: They are fundamentally so sound that they don't beat themselves. They're not razzle dazzle and sparklers. But they win the games. They don't worry about style points, as some WVU fans do. Just win the game. Like being 3-0. It's UNDEFEATED.
The 2002 Ohio State won the national title but had 6 games decided by a TD or fewer points, and Cincy dropped TWO passes in the end zone in the 4th quarter to let the Buckeyes off the hook in that one.
I can't wait to be in Mountaineer Field with my best friend since 1937!
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N euter Kansas State
T rample Texas Tech
A nnihilate TCU
I mpale Oklahoma State
N ail Kansas
E radicate Texas
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
This KSU team is nothing like the one you guys saw last year. By the time WV rolled into Manhattan last year KSU was decimated by injuries mainly in the secondary and at QB. The QB from last year is 3rd string this year. Point being you had a major personnel advantage at the skill positions last year.......that won't be the case this year.
This year the offense is a lot better everywhere with the exception of the Oline which is talented but young. They've already taken big steps forward from the Stanford game......that game was 19-13 late in the 4th quarter so it's not like they played terrible either. Big upgrades at WR, RB, and QB.
Defense has been impressive across the board but they haven't seen much spread or hurry up. However, with the secondary getting a new addition at CB and getting back our all big 12 caliber safety from injury I feel they have the personnel to be able to handle it. Front 7 are solid across the board.
On special teams Burns who won that game on kick returns for KSU last year graduated. However, his replacements Heath and Pringle already have a return for a TD and multiple long returns. ST is something Snyder puts a lot of focus on and there probably isn't any drop off here. Kickers are all back. KSU has scored the most non offensive/defensive TD's of any school in the country over the last 25 years by a pretty large margin for a reason.
I think special teams, Snyder VS Dana, and TO's decide this game and that appears to favor KSU. Close game going into the half, then the Snyder advantage comes into play with halftime adjustments(Snyder has won something like 98% of all games he leads at halftime). KSU by 10.
This year the offense is a lot better everywhere with the exception of the Oline which is talented but young. They've already taken big steps forward from the Stanford game......that game was 19-13 late in the 4th quarter so it's not like they played terrible either. Big upgrades at WR, RB, and QB.
Defense has been impressive across the board but they haven't seen much spread or hurry up. However, with the secondary getting a new addition at CB and getting back our all big 12 caliber safety from injury I feel they have the personnel to be able to handle it. Front 7 are solid across the board.
On special teams Burns who won that game on kick returns for KSU last year graduated. However, his replacements Heath and Pringle already have a return for a TD and multiple long returns. ST is something Snyder puts a lot of focus on and there probably isn't any drop off here. Kickers are all back. KSU has scored the most non offensive/defensive TD's of any school in the country over the last 25 years by a pretty large margin for a reason.
I think special teams, Snyder VS Dana, and TO's decide this game and that appears to favor KSU. Close game going into the half, then the Snyder advantage comes into play with halftime adjustments(Snyder has won something like 98% of all games he leads at halftime). KSU by 10.
Don't see anything about your QB that scares me. Your D has good numbers but so will other D's before they play our offense. So far this year I think Skyler Howard is the most underrated player in the conference. We will both find out a lot of answers on Saturday.
If Snyder had retired before this season, I'd chalked this up as a win. I have zero faith in Dana beating Bill Snyder, especially after the past two games between us.
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why do some people actually believe that coaches wait until halftime to make adjustments?..
Have you seen him outside of the Stanford game......his first career start outside of the one snap he got last year before he went down for the season? Regardless, Snyder won't rely on him to win the game and will move the ball. Our D has held up just fine against WV in the past and is 3X better than it was last year which was the worst team(a lot had to due with injuries) KSU has fielded in years.
I'm not saying that's the only time they do.....but a lot of adjustments can and are made then.
I'm sorry but K - State is not a good football team, they will slip into a crappy bowl at 6-6 or 7-5 if they are lucky.
If WVU loses to them on Saturday we are in big trouble, and we better get Kiffin on the phone...
We have much better players than they do, especially on offense. They are like Missouri, but better coached and the Mizzou game wasn't as close as the 26-11 score indicated.
We SHOULD beat K-State by 10+, but if we do lose this game we are in trouble. This is one of the games WVU needs to win to get to 8-9 wins.
Although I will admit that QB draw they run 25 times against us every year scares the hell out of me.
Good, mostly civil, exchange between rival fans. I love it!
I have tremendous respect for Snyder, as most Mountaineer fans do. It would be silly not to, since he's 4-0 against Dana and WVU.
But I'll be in Mountaineer Field, as I am for every game, hoping WVU finally can get this monkey off its back. Please, God.
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N euter Kansas State
T rample Texas Tech
A nnihilate TCU
I mpale Oklahoma State
N ail Kansas
E radicate Texas
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
I have tremendous respect for Snyder, as most Mountaineer fans do. It would be silly not to, since he's 4-0 against Dana and WVU.
But I'll be in Mountaineer Field, as I am for every game, hoping WVU finally can get this monkey off its back. Please, God.
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N euter Kansas State
T rample Texas Tech
A nnihilate TCU
I mpale Oklahoma State
N ail Kansas
E radicate Texas
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
You're basing this assessment on what exactly? KSU has blown out the teams they should have and took a legit top 10 team to the wire at their place. Last year, KSU was a crappy team and still beat WV. 2016 KSU squad is a much better team top to bottom than the 2015 version.
I'd love to talk ****, but I just don't know how good we are yet. We've played 2 ****** teams and 1 good team and are 2-1. Based off what I've seen, it's pretty safe to say we are better than last year, so there's that. Talking back and forth about how good we think our teams are is kind of boring anyway. More importantly I need to know if "erectile dysfunction Oklahoma" means you hope you beat OU?
I've watched them. Completely disagree with numbers. They are a solid football team. Stanford scored a late TD to make it look worse than it was, but those 2 teams looked evenly matched in that game. If it was in the little Apple, the Wildcats may have won that game. I think they could go anywhere from 8-4 to 10-2 and will likely be competitive in every Big 12 game.
I still think we have more talent than they do, but they have a significant advantage on the sidelines. We've got to get over this hump if we want to be a contender though. We're definitely due against old balls.
Give it to Coach Snyder. K State had the WORST record in NCAA division 1 history before Snyder. Then when he left they were awful. He comes back and they are good again. But he ain't coaching forever and they will suck again as soon as he is gone. Plus the Royal Purple is gay! And their fans are the only ones in the Big 12 that make excessive hillbilly and incest jokes. A win will be sweet.
If your referring to the Mask vid done 4 years ago...he's moved away. He wasn't a KSU grad or student. Fort Riley Army transfer from Illinois who gets excited to piss off the competition, but don't we all? :middlefinger:[winking]
Your game with Stanford was 19-6 and you scored with 2 minutes and 20 some seconds to go in the game to make it 19-13. It was a 13-point game just like the scoreboard showed.
You should probably let Vegas know they blew this one by making us a 3 point favorite since you think you'll win by 10. You're not in Kansas any more, Dorothy. 3 points is too light. Speed kills and we'll cover the point spread, easily.
Get back to your dream, Dorothy.
You didn't watch the game obviously.
FYI, I've called vegas the last 4 years and they still aren't listening to me. We've heard the same noise out of Wv fans every year........then Snyder does his annual depantsing of Dana and we get crickets. Do you know what the definition of insanity is?
Dorothy smack, now that's just hurtful and very original I might add. Speaking of movies have you seen the wonderful whites of WV?
You have a weak running game and your quarterback has about a 50% completion percentage and has a tendency to throw it to the wrong team.
Your DBs will see the back of our WRs' jerseys quite a bit.
I don't expect you'll show up to this board Saturday evening around 7:00 pm (EDT). Dinner will be served, it will be crow for the pathetic KSU fans.
Ive never had crow......is eating it like some sort of tradition after Wv gets beat by the cats? Does it taste anything like possum or squirrel? Not that I have any idea how those taste either.
That's funny, someone from Kansas trying to pretend they're not hicks. Like I said, if you're man enough, you'll show your pathetic little self here on Saturday evening around 7:00 pm EDT.
And btw, you didn't address any of the things I mentioned about your weak *** football team.
I met Jessico in The Anchor in Kanawha City when the first PBS special came out. He was in Charleston doing some promo work with some local PBS suits. They offered to take him to dinner and he wanted buffalo wings, so they brought him to The Anchor. Strange dude by any standard.
Not a lot of hicks in Ks, just rednecks. However they eat mostly beef since that's one of the multi-billion dollar industry's in the state that employees them. I don't know why you're so butthurt over my response since you're the one that brought up eating crow.
You brought up nothing of substance in regards to KSU's team. Ertz is like 56-57% in regards to completions and has one INT which is 2 fewer than Howard. Ertz is a great running QB.....how's your D done with mobile QB's? How is WV on special teams? Our D is currently ranked #1 in the country and KSU has proven over the last 4 meetings they can stop your offense.
You're right I won't be here posting after the game Saturday.....I have better things to do. To be fair though, I didn't come and gloat after the games in 2012, 2013, 2014, or 2015. I will promise to stop back by next week sometime win or lose.
KSU's defense is ranked #1 in the country, but they've played 2 BCS teams with offenses ranked 109th and 116th and a FCS team with the 81st ranked offense. WVU is ranked 13th in total offense. Now, stats are what they are, but I think WVU wins in a close one.
I could be wrong, but believe most "experts" had K State finishing ahead of us in conference. A little early to say one way or the other.
I have no freaking idea why any WV fan would disrespect KSU. It's like they want to win so bad they'll say anything before the game in order to convince themselves that they've already won the game.
Last night I watched a video of Gibby talking about his defense earlier this week .... it did not exude confidence. At this point I expect KSU to control the ball, make a special teams play or two, and ..... win the game. They'll do it because they are more fundamentally sound. As Greg Hunter said elsewhere, "Until the Mountaineers actually beat the Wildcats, I'm not going to predict they do so."
Last night I watched a video of Gibby talking about his defense earlier this week .... it did not exude confidence. At this point I expect KSU to control the ball, make a special teams play or two, and ..... win the game. They'll do it because they are more fundamentally sound. As Greg Hunter said elsewhere, "Until the Mountaineers actually beat the Wildcats, I'm not going to predict they do so."
I will. But a KSU fan coming on our board and predicting a 10-point win and running his phucking little mouth about 4 in a row and playing to the stereotype of WVians are backwoods hicks and the idiot that makes the mask videos.....please. Especially when a lot of our fan base has been very respectful of their football program as evidenced by all of the comments on this board. They have a pretty disgusting fan base. So, yes, I'm gonna run my mouth about them. The last two years they beat us it was by a combined total of 7 points and they run their mouth like they are a top 10 team. Everyone knows we had the better team the last two years. Whatever. I have no respect for their fans.
I am with you, I can't stand K State. I can take it from OU fans because they have a legit program and Norman is an awesome college town. Manhattan, KS is a **** hole and their program will be back to the bottom with Kansas once the old man hangs it up for good.
Their have a severe case of little brother syndrome, similar to our friends in Huntington.
Their have a severe case of little brother syndrome, similar to our friends in Huntington.
K-State is a tough game every year . . . we don't have a winning record as of late. Plus, this is a conference game.
Big game . . . it's the next game . . . it's today.
Big game . . . it's the next game . . . it's today.