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AnotherOldDog

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Now, I can stop driving across the Mighty Mississippi at Vicksburg to buy my lottery tickets. Well, it will take Mississippi a few months (or years) to get the lottery up and running, but it's coming!!!

What say, you?
 

PBRME

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I didn’t expect such a quick turn around after it was voted down late yesterday.
 

Faustdog

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I don’t have a moral position for or against it. It is strange to me though that Democrats tend to favor it considering it’s basically a poor tax. Not a bunch of stable people out there spending big bucks on lotto tickets.
 

Cap'n Geech

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Perhaps Democrats and Republicans that voted for the lottery aren't as concerned about poor people as they want us to believe.
 
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Agreed, it seems to me it's money that is going to be spent no matter what, so may has well keep it in Mississippi rather than exporting it to Louisiana and Tennessee.

This will bring in money from Alabama too.
 

Shamoan

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i know funds are tied primarily to bridges and roads, but any chance any of that can be used to supplement baseball scholarships?


eta: could that qualify as the public education fund that was spoken about in the amount over 80 million?
 
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WilCoDawg

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Maybe they realized some people can’t be saved from themselves.
If someone goes crazy with the lottery, they’re probably already going crazy with something, ie casinahs.
 

AssEndDawg

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I don’t have a moral position for or against it. It is strange to me though that Democrats tend to favor it considering it’s basically a poor tax. Not a bunch of stable people out there spending big bucks on lotto tickets.
It's not a poor tax, it is a stupid tax. Stupid people are usually poor for a reason (although not all poor people are stupid, it's situational). Might as well take stupid money and use it to fix infrastructure so that more jobs come into the state and you can put more stupid people to work to pay for their lottery tickets.
 

MarkDallas

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i know funds are tied primarily to bridges and roads, but any chance any of that can be used to supplement baseball scholarships?


eta: could that qualify as the public education fund that was spoken about in the amount over 80 million?

"Roads and bridges" = never seen again. I try not to be cynical, but more money has been skimmed from infrastructure projects than probably anything else in Mississippi. Any money that comes into the state without a specific earmark (and half with) gets squandered or redirected at some point. See: Tobacco lawsuit, BP money, etc.

I wish it was going to a scholarship program like some states have.
 

archdog

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Perhaps Democrats and Republicans that voted for the lottery aren't as concerned about poor people as they want us to believe.

Perhaps both sides want the money to flow into the state's coffers. It is a voluntary tax on the dumb, not poor specifically. So many poor people are dumb though.
 

maroonmania

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Taxes aren’t voluntary...

Yep, it would be like complaining that folks in the military are heavily weighted towards the lower class even though they all VOLUNTEERED. Nobody has to join the military (for now) and nobody has to buy a lottery ticket.
 

johnson86-1

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"Roads and bridges" = never seen again. I try not to be cynical, but more money has been skimmed from infrastructure projects than probably anything else in Mississippi. Any money that comes into the state without a specific earmark (and half with) gets squandered or redirected at some point. See: Tobacco lawsuit, BP money, etc.

I wish it was going to a scholarship program like some states have.


We probably can't afford a meaningful scholarship program with lottery money. A lot of the "new" lottery money the state gets will be cannibalized sales tax revenue. If we tried to fund it with lottery money, that would just leave us know feasible way to backfill the hole in the revenue from lost sales tax.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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The lottery doesn't produce significant revenue.... It's just entertainment. In TX 27% of lottery gross sales goes to the education fund. In 2016-17 that came out to $1.3 billion for the entire state education system... Seems like a lot, until you factor in that Dallas ISD alone has a $1.8 Billion annual budget. It's a small piece of the pie.

I am guessing that it will be a wash in the long run for Mississippi as it will cut into the federal funds received by the state currently. I am okay with that, let the folks blowing money on beer and cigarettes and complaining about poor education put a little bit back into the pool instead of the folks from a handful of other states sending federal dollars in to pay for education for another state.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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As someone else said, Casinahs affect the poor much more that the lottery. They will spend $5-$10 a week on lottery while putting $50 a week on penny slot machines.

Put I know no poor person EVER wagered money on a pool game, dice game, card game, or a clandestine sports book.***

Now they can “legally” book a wager, but a lottery ticket or drop coin in a slot machine in Mississippi. Next thing you know they will be legalizing moonshine!***
 

Philly Dawg

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“Lottery? No, I’m against it. What’s that you said? A two week special session? 17 that I’ll vote for it I guess.”
 

cowbell88

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Casinos was supposed to fix bridges and roads. In Tunica county, it went a long way to doing that.

In Washington Co, that money either didn’t get down to road supervisors level or it didn’t get put down in new asphalt. Roads are horrible there. Highways are ok, state aid “slag top” roads are bad, and gravel county roads are impassable when raining. Some are even condemned, due to bridges out. Of course, repeated 100k lb loads of grain don’t help situation at all, but surely truckers in Tunica county also load heavy.

Maybe, once infrastructure is back to acceptable level, some monies will find its way to education.
 

horshack.sixpack

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And help fund higher education, which it did not. I have no problem with the lottery itself, just the idea of giving politicians, who are drunk with the idea of spending other people's money, yet another way to line their pockets. There seems to be no actual accountability with regards to where these funds end up, and we are the most corrupt state in the nation. I'm sure it will work out fine...
 

johnson86-1

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As someone else said, Casinahs affect the poor much more that the lottery. They will spend $5-$10 a week on lottery while putting $50 a week on penny slot machines.

Put I know no poor person EVER wagered money on a pool game, dice game, card game, or a clandestine sports book.***

Now they can “legally” book a wager, but a lottery ticket or drop coin in a slot machine in Mississippi. Next thing you know they will be legalizing moonshine!***

Can't tell if the sarcastericks are meant to apply to the first line or not, but that would be incorrect.

Poor people will spend $5 to $20 or more per week on the lottery, but mostly won't go to the casinos every week. And the casinos give a lot of otherwise poor people an opportunity to make a good living.

I assume there are probably more problem gamblers at the casino, as the casino gives them a chance to chase their losses in a way that the lottery doesn't. But over time, I'm not sure if the blow ups at the casino where somebody loses their rent money is more damaging than the slow bleed of the lottery.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Can't tell if the sarcastericks are meant to apply to the first line or not, but that would be incorrect.

Poor people will spend $5 to $20 or more per week on the lottery, but mostly won't go to the casinos every week. And the casinos give a lot of otherwise poor people an opportunity to make a good living.

I assume there are probably more problem gamblers at the casino, as the casino gives them a chance to chase their losses in a way that the lottery doesn't. But over time, I'm not sure if the blow ups at the casino where somebody loses their rent money is more damaging than the slow bleed of the lottery.

I can tell you from visible experience that many a less than wealthy person in the Mississippi Delta have taken their last 25 pennies to the cashier to get 1 more quarter to drop in the slot before they walk out.

I have witnessed homes being repo’d because the owners gambled in the casinos until the wee hours of the am.

I haven’t seen many people lose their homes because they bought a few lottery tickets every week or so.

Maybe some have.

I personally prefer the lottery because I know going in the odds are astronomical. Therefore I am not going to buy a ticket or 10 every week. When I used to go to the casino, I was such a bad gambler that I never won. Ever! So I quit going. There ar more job bs available than workers right now. I wouldn’t care if every casino shut down, because I believe casino workers could find another job.

Maybe they couldn’t.
 
Nov 16, 2012
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I can tell you from visible experience that many a less than wealthy person in the Mississippi Delta have taken their last 25 pennies to the cashier to get 1 more quarter to drop in the slot before they walk out.

I have witnessed homes being repo’d because the owners gambled in the casinos until the wee hours of the am.

I haven’t seen many people lose their homes because they bought a few lottery tickets every week or so.

Maybe some have.

I personally prefer the lottery because I know going in the odds are astronomical. Therefore I am not going to buy a ticket or 10 every week. When I used to go to the casino, I was such a bad gambler that I never won. Ever! So I quit going. There ar more job bs available than workers right now. I wouldn’t care if every casino shut down, because I believe casino workers could find another job.

Maybe they couldn’t.

Lottery beer or cigarettes? At least with the lottery some will have a chance......a chance of being murdered later by a family member.
 

ArcherSPS

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Hopefully they'll realize the cashflow that marijuana would have on the state next.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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I can tell you from visible experience that many a less than wealthy person in the Mississippi Delta have taken their last 25 pennies to the cashier to get 1 more quarter to drop in the slot before they walk out.

I have witnessed homes being repo’d because the owners gambled in the casinos until the wee hours of the am.

I haven’t seen many people lose their homes because they bought a few lottery tickets every week or so.

Maybe some have.

I personally prefer the lottery because I know going in the odds are astronomical. Therefore I am not going to buy a ticket or 10 every week. When I used to go to the casino, I was such a bad gambler that I never won. Ever! So I quit going. There ar more job bs available than workers right now. I wouldn’t care if every casino shut down, because I believe casino workers could find another job.

Maybe they couldn’t.

All fair points. But you will find before long that a certain portion of the population will become addicted to scratch-offs. I am not sure how it compares to the slots when it comes to foreclosure rates, but these fiends will block the line for 10 minutes at the Grab and Stab, trying to figure out if they want to spend their last $10 on the BlackGold or Diamond Deluxe scratch-off. By the time you get to check out you can't decide if there is more moisture on the counter from your ever warming beer's condensation or the sweaty palm prints of the scratch-off fiend before you.

From a personal level, it's fun to grab a Powerball ticket for a few bucks a couple times a year and dream of putting a done on Davis Wade in my name, but those scratch-off addicts are a nuisance when you want to grab something in a hurry.
 
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Casinos was supposed to fix bridges and roads. In Tunica county, it went a long way to doing that.

In Washington Co, that money either didn’t get down to road supervisors level or it didn’t get put down in new asphalt. Roads are horrible there. Highways are ok, state aid “slag top” roads are bad, and gravel county roads are impassable when raining. Some are even condemned, due to bridges out. Of course, repeated 100k lb loads of grain don’t help situation at all, but surely truckers in Tunica county also load heavy.

Maybe, once infrastructure is back to acceptable level, some monies will find its way to education.


Yeah Tunica County paved almost every gravel road and fixed or built bridges but now they’ve squandered their money and with casino revenue down the roads and bridges are crumbling. There’s a bridge that has been closed for over a year now because they supposedly don’t have the funds to fix it.
 

patdog

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Tunica has never really recovered from the flood. And yes, a lot of money that should have been set aside for a rainy day has been squandered.
 

WilCoDawg

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Didn’t you just describe every government entity that comes into more tax revenue?
 

dawgdoug1962

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Tunica has never really recovered from the flood. And yes, a lot of money that should have been set aside for a rainy day has been squandered.

So much mis-management over the last few years when the political landscape changed dramatically....Was there for a decade during the boom years....sad to see/hear about what has happened....
 
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