Post NBA decision B1G hoops projection

Mr. Magoo1

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Nov 15, 2001
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Don’t understand Iowa at #1 at all. I think Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan will all be better than Iowa. I also think we will be better than Purdue and Michigan State….and could be better than Ohio State. The B1G should not be as strong this year.
 

kcg88

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Aug 11, 2017
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Torvik says:

12. Indiana
13. Illinois
23. Michigan State
29. Purdue
31. Michigan
38. Iowa
50. Maryland
51. Rutgers
58. Ohio State
66. Wisconsin
77. Penn State
84. Nebraska
92. Northwestern
111. Minnesota

This surprised me given how Rutgers was in the computer rankings last season.

Edit: just noticed it has Jaden Jones included. We fall to 54 without him.
 
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bigmatt718

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Mar 11, 2013
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Don’t understand Iowa at #1 at all. I think Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan will all be better than Iowa. I also think we will be better than Purdue and Michigan State….and could be better than Ohio State. The B1G should not be as strong this year.
Iowa won't be #1 with Murray gone pro.
 
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Apr 8, 2002
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Torvik says:

12. Indiana
13. Illinois
23. Michigan State
29. Purdue
31. Michigan
38. Iowa
50. Maryland
51. Rutgers
58. Ohio State
66. Wisconsin
77. Penn State
84. Nebraska
92. Northwestern
111. Minnesota

This surprised me given how Rutgers was in the computer rankings last season.

Edit: just noticed it has Jaden Jones included. We fall to 54 without him.
Shouldn't Rutgers improve without Jones? 😁
 
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I think it’ll be wide open. If I had to put money on it now I’d have Wisconsin, MSU, Illinois up top with long shot RU (if Spencer maintains his level of play and Cliff keeps progressing we’ll be a force).
I think the no-nothings continue to double and triple down on Rutgers every year.
 
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fluoxetine

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Nov 11, 2012
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Torvik says:

12. Indiana
13. Illinois
23. Michigan State
29. Purdue
31. Michigan
38. Iowa
50. Maryland
51. Rutgers
58. Ohio State
66. Wisconsin
77. Penn State
84. Nebraska
92. Northwestern
111. Minnesota

This surprised me given how Rutgers was in the computer rankings last season.

Edit: just noticed it has Jaden Jones included. We fall to 54 without him.
I’m a big Torvik defender but McConnell is almost certainly undervalued in a model like his.
 

GM

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Jan 18, 2020
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Torvik says:

12. Indiana
13. Illinois
23. Michigan State
29. Purdue
31. Michigan
38. Iowa
50. Maryland
51. Rutgers
58. Ohio State
66. Wisconsin
77. Penn State
84. Nebraska
92. Northwestern
111. Minnesota

This surprised me given how Rutgers was in the computer rankings last season.

Edit: just noticed it has Jaden Jones included. We fall to 54 without him.
Cam Spencer is a Torvik idol
 
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GM

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I wish we got Kyle Lofton, I think we’d have at least a solid chance at winning it, teams at the top are inexperienced and some of the usual teams at the top are in a bit of a rebuild
 

NewJerseyHawk

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Jan 11, 2007
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The conference is very down this upcoming year.

There is zero evidence this is true. Every conference loses NBA caliber players to the next level and the transfer portal is a factor for every league.

The Top 250 HS recruit count based on total number of commitments, gives zero indication of a drop-off for the B1G.

Total number of Top 250 commits based by conference.

SEC 38
B1G 38
ACC 37
Big 12 22
Big East 18
Pac 12 16

Other leagues/Pro/uncommitted kids make up the remaining 250.

There has been zero indication based on numbers of Top 200-250 kids incoming as frosh, that the B1G will have any drop-off whatsoever. If I dive into the amount of starters landed by B1G schools via the portal, it isn't like the B1G hasn't landed any and lost everyone.

There have been some exits to the next level or draft that are bigger name kids, but no one had Keegan Murray and Jordan Davis last summer as NBA lottery picks. The discussion was Jaden Ivey/Purdue and Michigan landing 4 McDonald's AAs in their 2020-21 class. 2 of those kids played this past season and entered the draft, one transfered out and the other stayed for Michigan. But considering what schools like Michigan pickup out of HS and via the portal, I don't see where this narrative on the B1G being down is coming from.

The overall assessment (to me) is the Big East improved the most from the portal and has Creighton ready to make the next jump to a Top 10 program.....and the middle schools appear to have maintained a good level via the portal. But when the best team (Villanova) loses its Hall of Fame coach and rugged seniors like Colin Gillespie, I don't see how the Big East improves in terms of perception.

The ACC (Duke, Florida State, UNC & Virginia) should be very solid. Miami and Notre Dame should be OK.

The Big 12 is typically 1st or 2nd, based on overall coaches and or defense/rebounding.

With the B1G and SEC at 38 each of the Top 250 kids, I don't see where either league drops off. It is a really bizarre scenario where someone in the media says something, and there is no evidence supporting it.

I think the overwhelming majority of where a league is, gets boiled down to how it did in the NCAA tournament.....and because the B1G (Purdue) and SEC (Kentucky and Tennessee got clipped, the league is somehow going other be down. If anything, the SEC, B1G, Big 12 are probably 1 to 3, depending on how the season lands. I would then say the ACC, Big East and then Pac 12 in that order. It would surprise me that the Pac 12 would have more Elite 8 teams than the B1G or Big East (Arizona and UCLA are going to be good again), but the Pac 12 probably needs to play better from teams 4 through 9 or 10, to get into the discussion as a Top 5 league.
 
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Scarlet83

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Feb 4, 2004
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It’s hard to believe but after all the years of Garza, Cockburn, Oturu, etc. dominating in the paint and getting the calls, we might finally have the premier guy for that. Makes a huge difference.
Wow. I never thought that WE could have the post player that gets the calls. I like your thinking.

But I am not holding my breath on some of these zebras.
 
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