Poor Kaepernick..

LETSGORU91_

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Did you see Blaine Gabbert in that offense?

Geno Smith is earning a paycheck, Kap is not right now. That tells me something. While I didn't watch any Niners games last year, he did put up some good numbers and that means he has value somewhere or somehow. Owners, coaches, and fans don't want to put up with his BS. It's no coincidence he doesn't get signed and then afterwards announces he won't kneel anymore during the Anthem.
 

Caliknight

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So, a teammate had something bad to say. I'm sure there were some that also didn't agree with his stance and I am sure there are a couple that are just plain racist. None of that makes him a bad teammate or a cancer in the locker room.

The guy who said it is black so that elimates racism, though I guess since Kapernick is half white it could still exist. Doubt it though. And it wasn't said in singularity. Dude was a horrible team mate. No one likes the me guy who can't ball and brings unwanted attention into the locker room. At least that is how it was explained to me. And it makes perfect sense.
 

AntiG

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The guy who said it is black so that elimates racism, though I guess since Kapernick is half white it could still exist. Doubt it though. And it wasn't said in singularity. Dude was a horrible team mate. No one likes the me guy who can't ball and brings unwanted attention into the locker room. At least that is how it was explained to me. And it makes perfect sense.
While, I disagree with his stances, the "bad teammate" rep that is being brought up here is garbage - that's something even on the most critical of 49ers boards and media that has never been brought up. One of things that was a result of his protesting was that more of his teammates started getting along with him. As I noted in the past, he was known for being antisocial and aloof with his teammates so they had a hard time adjusting to him versus the howdy-doody, good ole boy Alex Smith that he took the job from with far superior performance. They came around to him once he, in their eyes, stopped being such a fake and actually stood up for something, and his teammates publicly made sure that the press heard this.

As far as "guy who can't ball" he was one of the only bright spots on the team last year, possibly even the best player on the entire team other than when Bowman was healthy. Even Dawson was inconsistent last year. He produced at a relatively high level despite having nothing around him to work with.

The main reason right now that he isn't getting cash thrown at him was purely due to the controversial position he took - in this country, you don't disrespect the flag, you don't disrespect the military (which he didn't directly, but he did by disrespecting the flag), and you aren't going to make friends either with the public by shitting all over police. His play certainly wasn't the issue, and he's not a criminal like some other players that get avoided. Its purely his politics - and like I said before, we all have freedom of speech, but we also have repercussions. And he's going to lose millions for exercising his rights. But it has nothing to do with his play.
 

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While, I disagree with his stances, the "bad teammate" rep that is being brought up here is garbage - that's something even on the most critical of 49ers boards and media that has never been brought up. One of things that was a result of his protesting was that more of his teammates started getting along with him. As I noted in the past, he was known for being antisocial and aloof with his teammates so they had a hard time adjusting to him versus the howdy-doody, good ole boy Alex Smith that he took the job from with far superior performance. They came around to him once he, in their eyes, stopped being such a fake and actually stood up for something, and his teammates publicly made sure that the press heard this.

As far as "guy who can't ball" he was one of the only bright spots on the team last year, possibly even the best player on the entire team other than when Bowman was healthy. Even Dawson was inconsistent last year. He produced at a relatively high level despite having nothing around him to work with.

The main reason right now that he isn't getting cash thrown at him was purely due to the controversial position he took - in this country, you don't disrespect the flag, you don't disrespect the military (which he didn't directly, but he did by disrespecting the flag), and you aren't going to make friends either with the public by shitting all over police. His play certainly wasn't the issue, and he's not a criminal like some other players that get avoided. Its purely his politics - and like I said before, we all have freedom of speech, but we also have repercussions. And he's going to lose millions for exercising his rights. But it has nothing to do with his play.

Ditto to that, which has been my point all along.
 

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He has the talent level to be a back up somewhere. Or behind a backup. I get it, he is not great.

Problem is, whether you want to believe it or not, is that the NFL knows its fanbase. White conservative for the most part. The nfl is afraid he draws crowds away. Money out of their pockets. The image is not what NFL wants. Opposition, and they know their fans.

I hate to be political, and am not on either side of political bs world of hypocrisy we live in, but it seems to be the truth.
 

higgins3

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While, I disagree with his stances, the "bad teammate" rep that is being brought up here is garbage - that's something even on the most critical of 49ers boards and media that has never been brought up. One of things that was a result of his protesting was that more of his teammates started getting along with him. As I noted in the past, he was known for being antisocial and aloof with his teammates so they had a hard time adjusting to him versus the howdy-doody, good ole boy Alex Smith that he took the job from with far superior performance. They came around to him once he, in their eyes, stopped being such a fake and actually stood up for something, and his teammates publicly made sure that the press heard this.

As far as "guy who can't ball" he was one of the only bright spots on the team last year, possibly even the best player on the entire team other than when Bowman was healthy. Even Dawson was inconsistent last year. He produced at a relatively high level despite having nothing around him to work with.

The main reason right now that he isn't getting cash thrown at him was purely due to the controversial position he took - in this country, you don't disrespect the flag, you don't disrespect the military (which he didn't directly, but he did by disrespecting the flag), and you aren't going to make friends either with the public by shitting all over police. His play certainly wasn't the issue, and he's not a criminal like some other players that get avoided. Its purely his politics - and like I said before, we all have freedom of speech, but we also have repercussions. And he's going to lose millions for exercising his rights. But it has nothing to do with his play.

AKA, you disrespect the fan that brings in the money to the stadium. Bad brand image.
 
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Caliknight

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While, I disagree with his stances, the "bad teammate" rep that is being brought up here is garbage - that's something even on the most critical of 49ers boards and media that has never been brought up.

It was brought up to me directly from a team mate in my buddies living room in Manhattan Beach. Fellow players aren't going to put him on blast in the media for a number of reasons.

Dude is hated in that building. Why he's not there.
 

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It was brought up to me directly from a team mate in my buddies living room in Manhattan Beach. Fellow players aren't going to put him on blast in the media for a number of reasons.

Dude is hated in that building. Why he's not there.
Hated so much his teammates voted him an award for courageous and inspirational play.

See here.
 
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I know he believed in what he did but as an adult he should have thought of the consequences and how his actions would impact his career. I may be the lone wolf on this one but I believe he went too far. Worse yet he offended a segment of the population that have deep pockets. Older Americans viewed his defiance as soft treason.
 

tico brown

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Yeah... Kaepernick's 16 TDs/4 Ints is a horrible and putrid 2016 season... OK, Got it!!!

I guess woman beaters and DUI killers got more opportunities to play than players who have something to say. Yes I don't agree how he did it, but he still had something to say, which apparently killed his career, not his play.
 

tico brown

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WHO'S STATS WOULD YOU WANT?

*129-223, 57.8%, 1500 yds, 7 TD, 7 INT, 79.4 QB RTG.

*196-331, 59.2%, 2241 yds, 14 TD, 2 INT, 90.7 QB RTG.
 

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WHO'S STATS WOULD YOU WANT?

*129-223, 57.8%, 1500 yds, 7 TD, 7 INT, 79.4 QB RTG.

*196-331, 59.2%, 2241 yds, 14 TD, 2 INT, 90.7 QB RTG.
Kappy is a mediocre QB and has been for years. I have no problem with teams not wanting to sign a mediocre QB with a ton of baggage. Actions have consequences. Maybe he will get signed, maybe not. It's his right to protest and it is the right of business owners to decide whether Kappy is worth the trouble.
 
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RULoyal

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Kappy is a mediocre QB and has been for years. I have no problem with teams not wanting to sign a mediocre QB with a ton of baggage. Actions have consequences. Maybe he will get signed, maybe not. It's his right to protest and it is the right of business owners to decide whether Kappy is worth the trouble.
Is it really his right to protest while at work?
 

tico brown

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Kappy is a mediocre QB and has been for years. I have no problem with teams not wanting to sign a mediocre QB with a ton of baggage. Actions have consequences. Maybe he will get signed, maybe not. It's his right to protest and it is the right of business owners to decide whether Kappy is worth the trouble.
Kaepernuck never had a chance (on the field) because Chip Kelly is a nimrod on the pro level in Philly and SF. So you really would rather have a true, mediocre QB like Johnny Manziel than a decent QB like Colin Kaepernick? I thought it was all about IT DON'T MATTER IF YOU CAN PERFORM!!!!! If that's the case, I see 3, 4 recently signed QBs who are worse than Kaepernick.
 
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RUScrew85

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There's this old saying...

Don't **** where you eat.

I would think a person who put their personal politics so far in front of the needs of their job and didn't mind insulting millions of people who've had family member die for what that flag stands for would be very happy he's still a SJW and is still in the spotlight - even at the expense of their "career".

Good for Colin. He got what he asked for and if not at least he learned a good lesson. Actions have consequences.

Or maybe he just sucks. LOL
 
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yesrutgers01

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Again, I may not believe in his method but the fact that he did put his career and his name on the line for something he believes in, says a lot more to me than if he said, hell, I want to make my millions so I'll just write a letter to my Senator. He saw the NA/Flag as representing Government not just as "military"
 

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I think if a team thought he was better than what they had on the roster. could fit him in economically with the salary cap, and that he would not be a media distraction they would sign him. Even if he now waves the flag and eats apple pie, I'm afraid too many teams see him as a media distraction drawing focus away from what's going on on the field.
 

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Again, I may not believe in his method but the fact that he did put his career and his name on the line for something he believes in, says a lot more to me than if he said, hell, I want to make my millions so I'll just write a letter to my Senator. He saw the NA/Flag as representing Government not just as "military"

My guess is he never thought of the potential consequences of his actions, or didn't realize the backlash they could cause. It's no coincidence he is unemployed and then issues a statement that he will now stand for.the National Anthem.
 

REDRICH65

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Here's an idea, Kap --- if you don't like it here get the hell out and don' t catch your hair in the door.
 

mikebal9

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My guess is he never thought of the potential consequences of his actions, or didn't realize the backlash they could cause. It's no coincidence he is unemployed and then issues a statement that he will now stand for.the National Anthem.
He 100% did because in an interview when all this started, he said something to the effect of, "if this costs me my job, so be it." Yea, he put his "personal politics" ahead of his football career. People are criticizing him for it. I think it's commendable.
 

T2Kplus10

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He 100% did because in an interview when all this started, he said something to the effect of, "if this costs me my job, so be it." Yea, he put his "personal politics" ahead of his football career. People are criticizing him for it. I think it's commendable.
But that's not what he is doing. He back-tracked and ended his "protest" exactly at the same time as he is looking for a new job.
 

SkilletHead2

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This is very similar to the Ray Rice situation.

Teams are taking into account how good K is and how much grief signing him will cause. If he were better at QB, or had less baggage, he'd be signed.

After the draft, he will be.
 

tico brown

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But yet Johnny Maziel will be eventually signed by some team (maybe New Orleans). What's the excuse there?
Kappy is a mediocre QB and has been for years. I have no problem with teams not wanting to sign a mediocre QB with a ton of baggage. Actions have consequences. Maybe he will get signed, maybe not. It's his right to protest and it is the right of business owners to decide whether Kappy is worth the trouble.