********. Chris Christie among other prominent Republicans have made this statement. Only lunatics like yourself and Trump and others on this board supporting Trump's behavior are making excuses for irresponsible and disrespectful actions. Be proud that you are one of them.
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You would hope that we send in people without a plan or knowing what they are up against in an emergency?
With Trump's 3am tweets, his constant comments on Muslims, and his complete lack of understanding anything relating to foreign policy, I think everybody stationed in the Middle East will be a MUCH greater risk with him as president.
His supporters think it's cute, or funny, or like it just because it's not PC, but how do you think all of that is going to play out on the world stage? Diplomacy and political correctness may not be synonymous, but they are close cousins.
To answer your question, DD, I have been on the fringe of Project Management (as a Sales type) in the past......though I've been away from it for 25+ years. But, I don't disagree with your basic assessment of developer/contractor relationships in the least.
But you also accurately echo my personal belief in that I think Trump (like Jim Justice) does break legitimate contracts simply because he's got the financial horsepower to do it.. Actually, I suspect Justice is a minor-leaguer in that particular game versus Trump. Of course, I realize it can be persuasively argued those folks knew they were getting in bed with the Devil when they signed contracts with Trump, which still doesn't make what he did to them right.
BTW, if you believe Trump is entitled to some kind of pass in Atlantic City (and I'm not sure that's what you're saying) based on mismanagement in local/State government,......which was going on there for decades before the first Trump shovel ever hit the beach...... I'd submit to you he (as the brilliant developer he claims to be) should therefore have been sage enough to recognize these possibilities and avoided the market altogether.
Admittedly, that's pretty easy to say in retrospect; but he took every cent (and probably more) of that mismanaged government's subsidies to make his properties a reality, and is then quick to claim the problems belong to everyone else but him. But, in the final analysis, maybe if he spent a little less money on gold-plated drains in the bathrooms......and financially sidestepping local ordinances prohibiting surnames on the sides of buildings in 50' tall letters......maybe his AC properties would still be in business.
You sure that's just from the left?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/christie-defends-khans-amid-trump-000000994.html
Oh, I honestly don t know (and couldn't care less) what the outcome would become from such a confrontation. Trump and Schumer are simply two of the more distasteful people in American politics these days to my own sensibilities; for my money, the world would be a better place if neither of them were part of the public discussion.
It was a veteran on Megan Kelly's show, a Democrat, who was speaking in defense of the Khans and criticizing Trump. I'm on vacation right now so I have no idea what Chris Christie said, and I could care less.
I'm not laying judgement on Trump's comments or actions, but this notion that Gold Star parents are above reproach is ********.
Meanwhile, parents of those killed in Bengahzi that have spoken out against Hillary have been treated with a different set of gloves by the left, to the point of the EXACT same disrespect that Trump showed the Kahn's.
And again... I'm not voting for Trump. Unlike MANY here, I won't vote for the lesser of two evils.. and you had better believe Hillary IS one of those evils... and voting for her is as wrong as voting for Trump.
That's the story I've always heard about Justice. Not paying subs/suppliers and then letting them try and challenge him in court or with Lawyers, where his deeper pockets win. I'd wager Trump "wins" in many of his "negotiations" because he's got the deeper pockets to drag things out.
Just because Trump and Justice have been successful in such a manner though doesn't make them "stupid" individuals that many would proclaim.
Good post. I know people in Southern WV are not fans of Justice.
On the AC thing, my point wasn't that it was any one person's fault. The reality is, AC went into the ***** and Trump's Casino wasn't the only one that went down, they dropped like flies in the wake of the recession. If you haven't been to AC or haven't been in a while, you should go just to check it out. It's not good. I can honestly say I feel safer here in AFG than I do there.
Well, I myself don't know who's calling either of them "stupid" in that specific context. But if you've seen that, I'll take your word for it. For my money, the term "prick" would seem to be far more accurate in either case.
That having been said......if you're not planning to vote for Trump.....why do you care how anyone describes him ??
Prick would also be probably an acceptable term for them.
I don't care how anyone describes Trump. I can't stand hypocrisy, false labels and political correctness. It just caught my eye when I saw a veteran proclaim that Gold Star parents can basically say whatever they please and not face public backlash over it.
Since the days of the primaries I've made it clear that I would not be voting for Trump, and I look at him as being a populist and wolf in sheep's clothing.
I would be slamming Trump as hard as I do Hillary if the libs weren't taking up for Hillary the way they do.
Oh, believe me, DD, I'm intimately familiar with the travails in Atlantic City. It's been a few years since I was there last; but that particular occasion was coincidentally less than a month before the area's final (I think) large-scale savior, Revel, gave up the financial ghost. Right now, I think a case can be made perhaps the single best reason to go to AC is the White House Sub Shop. But back in the 80's when the gloss was still on the roulette wheels, it was a pretty fun place.
Anyway, no matter how hard they've tried, it's no secret Atlantic City has just never been able to eradicate the stench that's followed it for so long. It's self-created problems aside....and they're too numerous to list.....the legalization of gaming in Pennsylvania (which obviously has been around for some time now) seems to have been the final nail in it's coffin as a destination (or even a day trip, for that matter). I've never been there on a weekend; but these days, I wonder how busy the casinos are even then.
Oh, gaming will presumably continue to operate there......if not necessarily thrive.....but I'm awaiting the announcement that somebody is prepared to take the political gamble to attempt to develop the idea of gaming in North Jersey; something that previously was simply out of the question (if not against the law).
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For all the (often justifiable) bitching you guys do about Liberals, you Righties behave exactly the same way......the only real difference is that you scream YES when they scream NO, and vice versa.
Totally and completely irrelevant; idiot/solve-nothing partisan whining has been going on around here.....with you, frankly, right in the middle of it (and myself somewhat less so)......since Bill Clinton put Rush Limbaugh on the map, and Trump was spending royalty checks from the first printing of Art of the Deal (while trying to figure out how to finance casinos in Atlantic City).
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No way to end it, it continues to get worse with the media feeding the frenzy. I don't see our problems being able to be solved the way you do, or particularly the guy who liked your post who is in it neck deep but claims to be moderate. That will never change. It will lead to the end of this country as we know it.
I think you folks are missing a few points:
Atlantic City - Who in hell could question the decision to go? Metro area is just too large a population to ignore. Who could not see the possibilities with constant flow of busses from The City? In the end that may have bitten them in the *** - bus loads coming for free entertainment instead of gambling. It originally started with a few blocks of glamor. Just imagine Vegas with the population adjacent to pull from. It will grow. Next block was a ********. I guess ******** growth exceeded the glamor. Difficult to acquire adjacent property and government was no help. There was simply a different class of people for AC vs Vegas. Trump early in and early out.
Contracts - most people do not appreciate them. Trump is expert. Johnny come lately is only interested in getting started and greedily takes any contract Trump(Justice) willing to give. Now the fun begins. If the vendor is needed to perform long term, concessions will be made to keep the vendor in business. One term contract, that vendor had better negotiate a contract they can benefit from.
At that point it is a business with the bottom line as the objective. Adhere to the terms. Dates and performance must be met. Failure to meet terms have consequences. Have been involved in situations where non compliance resulted in forfeiture of escrow if further dealings with vendor are not anticipated. Or if he does good work that I want him to do another job, will bend with him if he negotiated a contract he couldn't comply with. Which action depends on what is best for the company. It was not a difficult call for a small area operator. Can keep finger on every transaction.
Trump and Justice are at different levels. Jim operates within a couple states and keeps in touch operation exec. Trump is simply absentee. He has a staff at each location and a staff of lawyers in the company to act on any disagreement. About the only way to operate that is a contract with i's dotted and t's crossed. Vendor complies strictly or fight through the legal process. It costs no more to contest a settlement. It's just business.
Atlantic City - Who in hell could question the decision to go? Metro area is just too large a population to ignore. Who could not see the possibilities with constant flow of busses from The City? In the end that may have bitten them in the *** - bus loads coming for free entertainment instead of gambling. It originally started with a few blocks of glamor. Just imagine Vegas with the population adjacent to pull from. It will grow. Next block was a ********. I guess ******** growth exceeded the glamor. Difficult to acquire adjacent property and government was no help. There was simply a different class of people for AC vs Vegas. Trump early in and early out.
Contracts - most people do not appreciate them. Trump is expert. Johnny come lately is only interested in getting started and greedily takes any contract Trump(Justice) willing to give. Now the fun begins. If the vendor is needed to perform long term, concessions will be made to keep the vendor in business. One term contract, that vendor had better negotiate a contract they can benefit from.
At that point it is a business with the bottom line as the objective. Adhere to the terms. Dates and performance must be met. Failure to meet terms have consequences. Have been involved in situations where non compliance resulted in forfeiture of escrow if further dealings with vendor are not anticipated. Or if he does good work that I want him to do another job, will bend with him if he negotiated a contract he couldn't comply with. Which action depends on what is best for the company. It was not a difficult call for a small area operator. Can keep finger on every transaction.
Trump and Justice are at different levels. Jim operates within a couple states and keeps in touch operation exec. Trump is simply absentee. He has a staff at each location and a staff of lawyers in the company to act on any disagreement. About the only way to operate that is a contract with i's dotted and t's crossed. Vendor complies strictly or fight through the legal process. It costs no more to contest a settlement. It's just business.
Agreed, so long as people seemingly get off on a daily basis by arguing to people with opposing viewpoints with no possible hope of changing their thinking. Then again, I myself have never viewed opinion-based Internet Message Boards as an avenue to much of anything beyond disagreement between (occasionally) otherwise thoughtful people.
And while you are free to disagree with my assessment of this entire situation, sitting before a computer on a daily basis and fighting with politically-opposed strangers......with any sort of notion it's actually going to solve anything (let alone "problems").....does little more, in my estimation, than restate the new-age definition of the term "insanity".
I think every day on his campaign is evidence that he acts rashly. I guess we could parse words, but when speaking is his job (at the moment), how else are we to evaluate how he'd do his job besides how he speaks? There are also the eyewitness accounts from one of his past attorneys and the man who ghost-wrote his autobiography. Both paint a striking picture of how Trump does business, how childishly short his attention span is, and how dis-interested he is in facts. The preponderance of reporting on his campaign seems to indicate that no one can get through to him with good campaign advice other than his children, and even they have proven helpless on some fronts. Did you notice the silence from Ivanka, normally his defender-in-chief--after Trumps comments about how women who are sexually harrassed at work should just find another job? Trump says and does whatever Trump wants, and facts be damned. Facts are for lawyers to figure out after the fact. You really think that way of doing business can translate to success as POTUS?
BTW, did you read the transcripts from yesterday's interview with the Washington Post? At least 3 times, he got distracted from the interviewers questions because he was trying to watch TV at the same time.