Please explain FBI leaks...

[Catlogic15]

Why is it Yahoo/Forde/Thamel the only ones presenting this information, at their leisure and at their discretion? Why not other heavy media like NYT, Washington Post, etc. If leaking, wouldn't the FBI be shutting down the leak? If it's open record, why wouldn't Kentucky, Kansas, et al be requesting said records basically asking "ok, what do you have in total".
Seems ludicrous to me that a story so huge would have only one outlet to feed the public in a time fashion that they only control, to magnify themselves and build their brand? I'd think the FBI would not leak anything that would possibly result in a grand jury hearing but I'm kinda pissed that we're held hostage by Yahoo on results achieved by a taxpayer-funded government protective entity.

 

[Real Deal 2]

Schlabach is ESPN. These 2 are going hard to get the info. ESPN did the big deed with Miller last night. Someone is giving info. Probably both paying ransom to get the info.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Some have suggested it’s not the FBI but a lawyer leaking info.

 

[gracetoyou]

Why is it Yahoo/Forde/Thamel the only ones presenting this information, at their leisure and at their discretion? Why not other heavy media like NYT, Washington Post, etc. If leaking, wouldn't the FBI be shutting down the leak? If it's open record, why wouldn't Kentucky, Kansas, et al be requesting said records basically asking "ok, what do you have in total".
Seems ludicrous to me that a story so huge would have only one outlet to feed the public in a time fashion that they only control, to magnify themselves and build their brand? I'd think the FBI would not leak anything that would possibly result in a grand jury hearing but I'm kinda pissed that we're held hostage by Yahoo on results achieved by a taxpayer-funded government protective entity.

Makes me wonder if those 2 are cherry picking what info to release

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

FBI isn’t leaking, it’s likely a defense lawyer that has access to some of the evidence. They have incentive to leak - they want to create the impression everyone is cheating, which makes their client look better. Sometimes a judge will put the kibosh on that. But here, a coach making millions is on tape essentially pimping a kid - you think a judge will go out of his way to stop that kind of leak? He’s thinking, what do I care, that coach is getting what he deserves....

 

[KYCAT78]

Washington Post and NYT are too involved in collusion narrative to waste time on a real story.

 

[Catlogic15]

FBI isn’t leaking, it’s likely a defense lawyer that has access to some of the evidence. They have incentive to leak - they want to create the impression everyone is cheating, which makes their client look better. Sometimes a judge will put the kibosh on that. But here, a coach making millions is on tape essentially pimping a kid - you think a judge will go out of his way to stop that kind of leak? He’s thinking, what do I care, that coach is getting what he deserves....

So a defense lawyer "leaks".
And again, why wouldn't the FBI stop a leak?
And why can't UK, et al, file a motion to have access to the information if the FBI thinks leaking for benefit of any particular "client" is ok?
Allowing Yahoo, or any media outlet, to have access to the already FBI published documents, but not those implicated in said findings, is flat not fair.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

So a defense lawyer "leaks".
And again, why wouldn't the FBI stop a leak?
And why can't UK, et al, file a motion to have access to the information if the FBI thinks leaking for benefit of any particular "client" is ok?
Allowing Yahoo, or any media outlet, to have access to the already FBI published documents, but not those implicated in said findings, is flat not fair.

Dude we have leaks from the freaking White House that haven't been uncovered. Not easy to know who is leaking. They don't exactly announce it.

 

[Bryo72]

Why is it Yahoo/Forde/Thamel the only ones presenting this information, at their leisure and at their discretion? Why not other heavy media like NYT, Washington Post, etc. If leaking, wouldn't the FBI be shutting down the leak? If it's open record, why wouldn't Kentucky, Kansas, et al be requesting said records basically asking "ok, what do you have in total".
Seems ludicrous to me that a story so huge would have only one outlet to feed the public in a time fashion that they only control, to magnify themselves and build their brand? I'd think the FBI would not leak anything that would possibly result in a grand jury hearing but I'm kinda pissed that we're held hostage by Yahoo on results achieved by a taxpayer-funded government protective entity.

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Yes it does seem to be only yahoo...why?

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Since its forde...wouldn't surprise me if it's Pitinos defense attorney along with their former rogue AD to try to make themselves look better

 

[docholiday51]

Miller and the Ayton family are denying the major story,maybe they have gone full Pitino on everyone or maybe the facts have been twisted or a few left out.

Forde and Thamel keep cranking stuff out but somehow Yahoo news doesn't inspire a great level of confidence for me. Miller not coaching but Ayton playing makes no sense to me

 

[Catlogic15]

Not to belabor the point, but why is Yahoo (or espn) of all media outlets, allowed to “leak” presumed FBI documents at their discretionary leisure when no one else, UK et al, have no access to the same information? Why is UK held hostage to the next “release” by Yahoo? It doesn’t seem logical. Why wouldn’t UK, KU, etc be jumping all over this?

 

[Woodrow24]

I know Arizona fans are raising hell with Mark Schlabach over his espn article on this situation.

 

[Bourbonballs]

Since its forde...wouldn't surprise me if it's Pitinos defense attorney along with their former rogue AD to try to make themselves look better

Agreed!

 

[docholiday51]

Since its forde...wouldn't surprise me if it's Pitinos defense attorney along with their former rogue AD to try to make themselves look better

Point well taken,hell Pitino and Jurich would have been on the grassy knoll in '63 if it suited their interest

 

[JustBlue_rivals48238]

I am kinda happy Forde and Thammel are releasing all of this info - they absolutely despise us. If they have anything else on us I think they would have dropped it. I may be way off but I don't see them burying the lead here.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

Forde loves his diaper leak too.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

I am kinda happy Forde and Thammel are releasing all of this info - they absolutely despise us. If they have anything else on us I think they would have dropped it. I may be way off but I don't see them burying the lead here.

No doubt. They would love nothing more than ruining our season asap .

 

[Catlogic15]

OK. Was hoping for a legal-type explanation.
That being said, if Yahoo has a "bombshell" addendum to all this, it will be the last release, for maximum effect. The "cherry on the top". Kentucky. Bet on it.
That's why I was asking, what gives them the right, alone, to "break" the findings of an FBI investigation not available to the accused?

 

[docholiday51]

OK. Was hoping for a legal-type explanation.
That being said, if Yahoo has a "bombshell" addendum to all this, it will be the last release, for maximum effect. The "cherry on the top". Kentucky. Bet on it.
That's why I was asking, what gives them the right, alone, to "break" the findings of an FBI investigation not available to the accused?

Maybe,but the release on Friday before a big day of college basketball on Saturday could be considered a bombshell. Current players at Duke,UK and Arizona being named is a big deal,not to mention Miller.Who knows where this goes but it begins to become almost too orchestrated to be a 100% accurate representation of the facts.

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

FBI isn’t leaking, it’s likely a defense lawyer that has access to some of the evidence.

this is 100% true

 

[FactCheckerUSA]

I am kinda happy Forde and Thammel are releasing all of this info - they absolutely despise us. If they have anything else on us I think they would have dropped it. I may be way off but I don't see them burying the lead here.

They only released what they had access to, which isn't much.

The FBI investigation is way bigger that this.

 

[bluejesus]

yea....this is sealed FBI evidence and no one would have access to it except the defense lawyers representing those assistant coaches who were initially charged....pretty apparent that the information is coming from them and apparently Thamel and Forde have connections....but it's important to note that nothing that has leaked is important to the FBI....nothing has to do with the illegal activities the FBI is investigating..which is bribery, fraud. So if there weren't these leaks then this information would not come out for literally years which is how long it will take for the FBI to investigate and prosecute. Thing is what the FBI has on the dealings of shoe executives, agents and coaches will most likely NOT leak out until the FBI is ready. There could be some bombshells there.

 

[4UK]

OK. Was hoping for a legal-type explanation.
That being said, if Yahoo has a "bombshell" addendum to all this, it will be the last release, for maximum effect. The "cherry on the top". Kentucky. Bet on it.
That's why I was asking, what gives them the right, alone, to "break" the findings of an FBI investigation not available to the accused?

I don't mean this to be rude at all, but you clearly don't understand what's happening here.

As far as the FBI is concerned, the only "accused" are the assistant coaches that have been indicted. It appears they are also trying to build a case against the agents. They couldn't care less about Kevin Knox or Wendell Carter having a meal. They are looking for things like money laundering, wire fraud, bribery, perhaps even tax evasion. So in that sense, neither UK nor Knox are the "accused" so I'm not sure what information you think should be available to them. These aren't open records; they are part of an ongoing investigation, and the only folks privy to them are the investigators and the attorneys of those who are implicated in the initial FBI report that resulted in indictments (in which there is no mention of UK).

In terms of Yahoo, they have no "right" to break the findings. They just happen to be the ones who have the information right now. Not matter what you think of Forde and Thamel, they have beaten everyone else to the punch to get them. As many others have said, these leaks aren't coming from the FBI. They are coming from defense attorneys who have had a chance to look over the information as they prepare a defense for their clients. And, just as others have said, this is an attempt to show their clients are being singled out when the practice of "pay for play" is widespread.

Finally, the Forde/Pitino/Jurich connection is a great bet for where this info is coming from. It's probably not a coincidence that it all started coming out right after it was publicly announced that UL lost its appeal.

 

[Owen68_rivals]

Maybe Miller didn’t coach Saturday because Arizona AD or president decided they have had enough. I expect if anything else comes out he will be fired.

 

[kybassfan]

There was a bit of discussion on this Friday. Here is what I gleaned. The theory is that some defense team has gone through the discovery phase with the DA/Prosecution. By law the evidence must be turned over. Presentation at trial of information not disclosed is a recipe for mistrial. The defense is apparently not bound by non-disclosure.

Apparently for some, this has progressed into this phase. The defense is smoking the battlefield, throwing as many children, parents, coaches, colleges down as possible to create chaos and distract the court. Of course the defense is not compelled to paint the whole picture. You know ONLY what they want you to know. Further complicating this is the media. They filter the leak yet again. (No? ********). If the media integrity is not sterling, well, you know where this is going.

The conclusion I have drawn at this point is that anybody that claims to fully understand this is full of crap. The publicly available data has been tailored to meet a specific agenda. As such the data available to us is corrupt, incomplete and worthless.

The best analogy is that of the elephant and the blind man. We’re blind. We know some animal is around but we can neither see nor hear. Our only source of information is a primate slinging material that supposedly came out of the creatures backside. All anyone can really tell for sure is something stinks.

I also think that whoever is the primary focus of this investigation is willing to destroy college basketball to reduce their own risk. Let’s hope they fail.

 

[Old Blue Fart]

I don't mean this to be rude at all, but you clearly don't understand what's happening here.

Finally, the Forde/Pitino/Jurich connection is a great bet for where this info is coming from. It's probably not a coincidence that it all started coming out right after it was publicly announced that UL lost its appeal.

I have to agree with you on this.
The day all the crap broke loose on UL and their appeal, I was at work all day and it wasn't till by drive home that evening I was able to listen to the radio to get updated on all of it. I started a thread asking if there was something about UK about to come out since the radio guy I was listening to (everyone who else heard it said it was Terry Meiners) was adamant about things coming out against us in the next week or so.
He just seemed to know more than just running of the mouth as most UL people were doing that day.

 

[Blue Decade]

FBI isn’t leaking, it’s likely a defense lawyer that has access to some of the evidence. They have incentive to leak - they want to create the impression everyone is cheating, which makes their client look better. Sometimes a judge will put the kibosh on that. But here, a coach making millions is on tape essentially pimping a kid - you think a judge will go out of his way to stop that kind of leak? He’s thinking, what do I care, that coach is getting what he deserves....

We don't know who is leaking. So far, the only things we know for sure are that Pitino is toast, Brian Bowen won't play for UL, Sean Miller is in big trouble, and UK's administration has a high confidence level that our current players and coaches are not implicated. Up until now, everything else you hear is speculation and innuendo.