Pitbulls? Thoughts?

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jeans15

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Breed them with Boxers....They will lose their aggressive nature a 10 years from now.


Breed them out of existence.

Not slaughter them.
 
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JohnRossEwing

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Once again, the media is spinning this!

Mason Lindeman, 6, and two neighbors were playing Sunday evening in the driveway of his Conroe, Texas, home when a loose pit bull ran up and attacked.

- 6 years old is old enough to know that a dog might bite you.
- Sunday evening? Why wasn't this family having a family dinner, leads me to believe that THIS family, not the pitbull's family, is to blame.
- Driveway playing? Kid was asking for it...she should have been in the back and fenced in.


"My son was just lying on the ground. I mean, he's 6. He kind of knows what to do, but he's never been put in a situation like that," said Jillian Lindeman, Mason's mother.

- So the kid was acting like bait?
- The mother all but says that her son knows what to do, clearly it is his fault.
- Now we see the mother changing her story, first she says he kind of knows what to do, now she says he has never been put in the situation. Why the two stories? Another question, why has this 6 year old man (yes, six years old is old enough to be considered a man) never been trained on how to defend himself from a dog?


There is more that I could dissect but why bother? These four legged saints will never get a fair shake. I just hope the dogs teeth are okay.
 

Huskerfan2112

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Part of the issue is the breed. Part is the owner.

Personally I keep my dog as far from them as possible.
 

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Pit bulls are wonderful dogs! Like any dog, you just have to train them well, and remember unique things about the breed:

They are incredibly powerful.
They have big mouths with really sharp teeth.
They aren't usually aggressive, but if they do become aggressive, they can be a real problem.

I believe the current consensus is, it's almost never the dog, it's almost always the owner.
 

HuskerLove

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No offense to the OP, but this is not a 'pitbull' issue. Every breed of dog has a bad egg or two.

I've had this exact conversation with people who work at the Humane Society, and they will be the first ones to tell you that pitbulls are unfairly labeled as 'bad dogs' because of the POS people who breed them to fight. That is NOT the dog's fault.

IMHO, animals are a direct reflection of their owner.
 

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Pit bulls are wonderful dogs! Like any dog, you just have to train them well, and remember unique things about the breed:

They are incredibly powerful.
They have big mouths with really sharp teeth.
They aren't usually aggressive, but if they do become aggressive, they can be a real problem.

I believe the current consensus is, it's almost never the dog, it's almost always the owner.

That is almost word for word what I said at my HOA meeting when they had a problem with me and my two pet alligators, my great white shark that I put in the community salt water pool and pet wolf.
 

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Part of the issue is the breed. Part is the owner.

Personally I keep my dog as far from them as possible.

Same here. I've seen a pit bull kill a small dog before. And this was the typical story where the pitbull was 8 years old (human yrs), never hurt a fly, and then just lost it. The problem with them is their bite. Once they clamp down, they don't know how or can't release.

I have a small dog and I keep him the hell away from them. Not worth risking.
 

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That is almost word for word what I said at my HOA meeting when they had a problem with me and my two pet alligators, my great white shark that I put in the community salt water pool and pet wolf.
 

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Just read 2019 fatal mauling list, quite breed diverse

I guess. Of course there is this:

DogsBite.org recorded 36 fatal dog attacks in 2018. Pit bulls contributed to 72% (26) of these deaths -- over 8 times more than the next closest breed, "mixed-breed," with 3 deaths. Nine different dog breeds contributed to lethal attacks in 2018. Two deaths were unreported, but were captured through our records requests. The last time the CDC collected "breed" data about dogs involved in fatal human attacks was 1998.

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2019/05/2018-dog-bite-fatality-statistics-discussion.html

I'm sure that there's a problem with dogbites.org.

Or how they collect the data.

Or the people who reported the fatalities.

Or the under-reporting of brittany spaniel maulings covered up as hunting accidents.

Or the newspapers who ignore all the fatalities generated by pugs, instead choosing to have it in for pit bulls.

I'm also sure the other 340 dog breeds all have perfect non-abusive owners who take care of them perfectly, and that only pit bulls have bad owners..

Or, it could be that the average pit bull is many, many, many times more likely than the average dog of any other breed to kill the hell out of people, whatever the reason.

It's definitely one of the above.
 

DeadRed402

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I guess. Of course there is this:

DogsBite.org recorded 36 fatal dog attacks in 2018. Pit bulls contributed to 72% (26) of these deaths -- over 8 times more than the next closest breed, "mixed-breed," with 3 deaths. Nine different dog breeds contributed to lethal attacks in 2018. Two deaths were unreported, but were captured through our records requests. The last time the CDC collected "breed" data about dogs involved in fatal human attacks was 1998.

https://blog.dogsbite.org/2019/05/2018-dog-bite-fatality-statistics-discussion.html

I'm sure that there's a problem with dogbites.org.

Or how they collect the data.

Or the people who reported the fatalities.

Or the under-reporting of brittany spaniel maulings covered up as hunting accidents.

Or the newspapers who ignore all the fatalities generated by pugs, instead choosing to have it in for pit bulls.

I'm also sure the other 340 dog breeds all have perfect non-abusive owners who take care of them perfectly, and that only pit bulls have bad owners..

Or, it could be that the average pit bull is many, many, many times more likely than the average dog of any other breed to kill the hell out of people, whatever the reason.

It's definitely one of the above.
Just pointing out the diversity of the list buddy. You're pretty passionate in spreading the fear. Good job.
 

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Same here. I've seen a pit bull kill a small dog before. And this was the typical story where the pitbull was 8 years old (human yrs), never hurt a fly, and then just lost it. The problem with them is their bite. Once they clamp down, they don't know how or can't release.

I have a small dog and I keep him the hell away from them. Not worth risking.

What makes their bite any worse than similar size breeds?
 

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What makes their bite any worse than similar size breeds?
The fact that they do it...to kids...often. Hahaha :)

No I kid. I don't think they technically have the strongest bite BUT they seem to have an amazing ability to refuse to let go, often times even while being beat.
 
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The fact that they do it...to kids...often. Hahaha :)

No I kid. I don't think they technically have the strongest bite BUT they seem to have an amazing ability to refuse to let go, often times even while being beat.

There's a reason why cops opt to go with German Sheperds rather than Pit bulls. German Sheperds have the ability to bite and let go when told so. Pitbulls don't.
 

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What makes their bite any worse than similar size breeds?

They don't release their bite. They might not mean any malice but the force they apply to their bite and their stubborness (or unability) to relase is what puts them over the top.
 

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There's a reason why cops opt to go with German Sheperds rather than Pit bulls. German Sheperds have the ability to bite and let go when told so. Pitbulls don't.

Larger dog, stronger bite, easier to train...

I’m guessing that has more to do with the choice rather than the dog not letting go.
 
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barney44

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No. When have German Sheperds actually killed someone?

Wasn’t it a couple of months ago that 5 or 6 of them mauled some woman down south?

Either way German Shepherds are generally in good hands, well bred and well trained. You can’t say the same for Pit Bulls or the supposed Pit Bulls out there..
 
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My thoughts on Pitbull. Ah... Singer who got over way more than he should have, but more power to him for that. I'd never put my dog anywhere near Pitbull. Also... Great White's... Didn't they burn down a club or something. Power predator they are to be doing that kind of work.
 

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There's a reason why cops opt to go with German Sheperds rather than Pit bulls. German Sheperds have the ability to bite and let go when told so. Pitbulls don't.
Umm.. cops do use pitbulls. They use a number of breeds. Not just German shepherds. They use malinois most often these days because of their drive to please their handler as well as their sharpened senses, not because of bite property. Idiot or troll?
 
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gw2kpro

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What makes their bite any worse than similar size breeds?

What makes their bite "worse" is that they are probably the world's perfect "dog".

They're an unbelievable blend of strength, agility, and smarts.

Spend any time with a male pit bull in his prime and it's easy to see why people are attracted to them.

My brother got one as a pup and had it for years. It's the most amazing dog I've ever been around. Beautiful. Looked like it was cut out of granite. Put it in a pen it didn't want to be in and it would either pull the chain link until the ties broke or just climb the fence if it wanted out. It could jump, grab a tree limb with it's jaws, swing around, hanging for a long time. It could climb a tree in his back yard and get up on the roof. Kind of funny until you had to get him down.

They're generally very smart and like many terriers, are good problem solvers and can very much focus singularly on the "issue" at hand. Which, I'm sure, was a very desirable trait for a dog getting bit up in the ring.

My brother used to fight with my dad all the time about the safety of the breed. Same arguments you see in these threads. Until the rubber hit the road. 2 weeks before his first kid was born, he gave it away.
 
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I'm an avid dog walker, can't tell you how many times I've been scared my doodle and I were about to get attacked. Yellow labs, golden retrievers, dalmatians, and most recently a pit bull-looking dog of some type. That damn thing was dragging a 20 foot chain behind as it loped towards us. Anyway, I've decided that when it finally happens I'm going to find out once and for all if I can kill a dog with my bare hands. What's the alternative?
 
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