This team is bad and Pike deserves criticism. But how exactly are you saying Nebraska and Minnesota turned it around and calling the last 8 years garbage play? We’ve been to the tournament twice since the last time either of those two teams have. At least be consistent.
Pikiell Sucks
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I have not been able to watch much of most games but I did watch a little today and it seems that we still can't make foul shots and we still can't get the ball in bounds.
Is this reflective of the whole year?
Is this reflective of the whole year?
In my mind Pike made 2 bad mistakes
1. Let Gavin fail on D. You cant change your rotations so Gavin defends a huy he can hang with.
2. Every possession was a scripted play. PSU was hounding our guards and took us conpletely out of any offensive rhythm. He must have called 15 different set plays. I like concepts most of the time over plays. Especially with what PSU guards were doing.
1. Let Gavin fail on D. You cant change your rotations so Gavin defends a huy he can hang with.
2. Every possession was a scripted play. PSU was hounding our guards and took us conpletely out of any offensive rhythm. He must have called 15 different set plays. I like concepts most of the time over plays. Especially with what PSU guards were doing.
Sorry. Can’t compare a basketball turn around to football. I don’t know how that is debatable.
True but we all knew this team needed an impact guard out of the portal whether paul and cam left or not and he picked up Noah early on when there were plenty of other options. Austin has been the much better pick up and he was after Cam and Paul left.
Not comparing the turnarounds…comparing the success each has had
Schiano…19-28 (9-27 in conf) 1 bowl bid…
Pikiell…127-114 (58-85 in conf) 3 ncaa bids, 1 nit bid.
I guess conference records is the only thing debatable. And yes, as I said in a prior post, I do understand it’s easier to be successful as a hoops coach
I am saying we have taken the product to now garbage. Look, Pikiell took them from the basement to back to back NCAA tourneys if you count the COVID year. After that the program has gradually got downhill and now gone to the bottom. Good coaches may have a 1 or a two year dip at most so giving Pikiell a benefit of the doubt, next year is the year he has to show significant improvement.
Ha ha nope. GS epitomizes stubborn. If anything he’s more stubborn than ever.
A message was being sent. Whatever it was - hopefully it reasonates with him.
Probably a while. Mediocrity is OK for most Rutgers fans. Pike's B1G finishes - 14, 14, 10, 5, 6, 4, 9, and probably 13 or 14 this year, and with one post season win. Over eight years that would probably get you fired at every other school in the conference.
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We will most likely be much much better than we are this season
It’s still not apples to apples, but Pike has beaten many ranked teams, including #1 ranked Purdue twice. Schiano hasn’t had a single notable win since he came back.
Different time, different team, different competition. None of Waters' teams played like Rutgers played tonight. Waters was a better coach than Pikiel, and by a lot.
Oh stop it.
I’m mad at Pike too, but this is objectively false, one season.
You would almost think we have to be. We need at least two players from the portal, however, and our track record is not good in that regard.
I wouldn’t say not good — it’s mixed. Yeboah and Spencer were very good gets. This past offseason was a flop, especially Noah, but we haven’t seen JWill yet.
Pike didn’t even come on the radio post game because he knew how bad his coaching job was and he couldn’t say his usual post game we have to do better as coaches!!
How about you actually run 1!! Just 1 effin offensive set other than 1 guard dribbling and 4 guys watching him!!
Yes we have been a bad foul shooting team for years now as well as a bad shooting team our defense has been our calling card
And yes most definitely we have the absolute worst inbounds plays both of these things have been a constant and have cost us games not only this season but in past seasons
Ok but how can you play a 3 guard offense the whole second half and get crushed 25-9 on the boards and Play Oskar so much are you trying to lose
How do you sub out the entire starting lineup when they started the game not great but decently
I always appreciate your posts and wonder what you think about this
Rutgers is having a bad year. They have been good for the previous 4 years. Every team has an off year. Pike is a good coach let’s see what he does next year with talent
Also and haven’t looked but I am sure if you look at “quality wins” - beating tournament teams in basketball vs beating bowl eligible teams in football- the numbers favor Pike as well.
Bad year and completely dysfunctional to the point of embarrassment are two different things.
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lol you’re so dumb
“Hurr durr you pathetic people ACCEPT MEDIOCRITY… and also I think the coach who never made the NCAA tournament was good”
I don’t think that’s the debate. Not from me at least. Pike too, took over a horrendous situation. A program at the bottom of the P6 and close to the bottom of all college basketball. Lifting this team to NCAA Tournament appearances (and yes, 2020 and the 2022 play-in game count) was viewed as nothing short of miraculous at RU.
My point was that the FB board was toxic with regard to GS through much of the year. Killing him in losses and often invalidating wins (NW, VT, MSU). No, GS hasn't had that signature win since his return, but went 7-6 and won a bowl game against the 3rd toughest schedule in the country in Year 4. While the offense continues to be a struggle, 2023 was progress. Pike gets far more latitude in Year 8 than GS in Year 4.
Pike has built up a ton of equity over his 8 years here and deservedly so. But have the last 2 years here shown progress? Some sobering stats:
- RU has won 5 of 19 B1G games since beating MSU at MSG last Feb
- RU has lost 9 games at the RAC since the start of the 2022-23 season (many to inferior teams)
- RU ranks 355th in FG pct this season
- 348th in 3-pt FG pct
- 349th in effective FG percentage
- 341st in FT pct
Pike is over rated and over paid, his team are notoriously bad shooting free throws and no offensive schemes
You don’t think finishing in the top half of the Big Ten with 2 NBA guys is a fair bottom floor expectation?
Missing the tournament would be downright pathetic.
Did you miss the previous 29 years where Rutgers missed the NCAA's. A lot of coaches sucked here but Pike is not one of them.
I will agree that this years teams is abysmal. Reminds me of many of our bad teams before Pike got here.
Oskar plays because he’s one of our top perimeter shooters. The hope is that he or Gavin or Hyatt gets hot and keeps the defense honest.
Without perimeter threats the D swarms Cliff and clogs the lane keeping our guards from driving to the rim, which is basically all they are good at.
So, the talent is the issue not the playing time.
Oskar isn’t very good but is one of the few players who has the potential to draw the D farther out.
Without perimeter threats the D swarms Cliff and clogs the lane keeping our guards from driving to the rim, which is basically all they are good at.
So, the talent is the issue not the playing time.
Oskar isn’t very good but is one of the few players who has the potential to draw the D farther out.
Not sure what you are watching but Oskar is 6 for 24 from 3 which is worst of any of the players other than Cliff or Woolfolk; He is a liability on defense and should not be playing at this point he brings zero to the table
So question do you just give up on the game which is essentially what Pikiell did; He played 3 guards for almost the last 25 minutes and in the second half we got hammered on the boards 25-9 so sending this message essentially was him just saying we are going to lose; How can you keep playing Fernandes last night he had another ofer'
Why did he play the 3 guards?
So it allowed Gavin to guard a player that wouldn't expose him. We haven't played the 3 guards practically the entire season
He plays or tries to play physical and is a good teammate....that's what he brings to the table.