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It was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
 

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It was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
I mean I don’t expect him to say publicly what he really thinks
 
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It was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
Same BS how about the 27 inbound plays we have yet we can’t run one at the end of yesterday’s game and that’s after the timeout
 

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It was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
He definitely doesn’t give you much in an interview . And the hype he gives is usually wrong . He’s a seasoned politician. But I get it, don’t give anyone bulletin board material
 

RU#1fan

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Program builder.
Not a next level coach.

Time to think about moving on to a new Coach unless we want to continue to teeter as an average CBB team with only a home crowd to motivate the team.
 

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Everyone does. Read the threads
I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.

He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.

You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone out. You said Pike and Ash are the same and that Geo is terrible. I wouldn’t show my face the day after a 25 point game TBH.
 
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I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.

He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.
The soonest we part ways would be after the 2023-2024 season. This offseason will tell us what direction this program is headed in. Odds are jaden jones transfers. We lose geo and ron. Caleb has one more year of eligibility but does he use it? I think he does. Who knows what happens with cliff, i believe he thinks hes better than he really is and it wouldnt shock me if he leaves, in no way shape or form though is he close to being an NBA player at this point in his career.

so next year best case scenario is we bring back paul, caleb, hyatt, miller, mag, reiber, cliff? Thats an eddie jordan level bad team. Then we bring in a freshman guard and a football player forward. Not only do we need to hit the portal hard, but we need like double digit scorer impact players in the portal.
 

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The soonest we part ways would be after the 2023-2024 season. This offseason will tell us what direction this program is headed in. Odds are jaden jones transfers. We lose geo and ron. Caleb has one more year of eligibility but does he use it? I think he does. Who knows what happens with cliff, i believe he thinks hes better than he really is and it wouldnt shock me if he leaves, in no way shape or form though is he close to being an NBA player at this point in his career.

so next year best case scenario is we bring back paul, caleb, hyatt, miller, mag, reiber, cliff? Thats an eddie jordan level bad team. Then we bring in a freshman guard and a football player forward. Not only do we need to hit the portal hard, but we need like double digit scorer impact players in the portal.
I actually watched and went to games when Eddie Jordan was here. 3 guys with NCAA tournament experience (6 if you want to count Jones, Mag, and Reiber although I’m not because I don’t think any of them played), 4 (non-consensus) four stars. That’s not an Eddie Jordan level team, and Pike is certainly above an Eddie Jordan level coach and recruiter. You’d have to have a total lack of knowledge of pre-2016 Rutgers basketball to say otherwise.

Young, Yeboah, and even Gettys contributed as transfers and that was before the portal became so easy to use. Acting like we won’t get any transfers in when we have significantly more minutes to give next year seems like a poor conclusion.
 

RUsojo

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I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.

He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.

You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone out. You said Pike and Ash are the same and that Geo is terrible. I wouldn’t show my face the day after a 25 point game TBH.
If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.

I never said Ash and Pike were the same LOL
 
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I actually watched and went to games when Eddie Jordan was here. 3 guys with NCAA tournament experience (6 if you want to count Jones, Mag, and Reiber although I’m not because I don’t think any of them played), 4 (non-consensus) four stars. That’s not an Eddie Jordan level team, and Pike is certainly above an Eddie Jordan level coach and recruiter. You’d have to have a total lack of knowledge of pre-2016 Rutgers basketball to say otherwise.

Young, Yeboah, and even Gettys contributed as transfers and that was before the portal became so easy to use. Acting like we won’t get any transfers in when we have significantly more minutes to give next year seems like a poor conclusion.
Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
 

GORU2014

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If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.

I never said Ash and Pike were the same LOL
I mean, you can look through the post histories and see that what you’re saying isn’t true. BlockR doesn’t post anything positive and is largely MIA after wins. Same with RU#1fan. The dentist mostly posts angry threads about Jalen Miller for some reason. Kyk is primarily our Jacob Young and 2 for 1 guy although I think he’s still the most positive out of that bunch.

The people giving out props and offering fair criticisms are fans. The ones calling for Pike to be fired have likely been watching Rutgers basketball for under 5 years and either don’t understand what they’re going to get if that happens or just want attention.

Feel free to deny it, I would too.
 

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Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
I just rattled off only the players likely to be on the 2022-2023 roster. Even with no transfers in, it’s a higher level team by any metric. And I’d be absolutely shocked if we don’t bring in at least one impact transfer.
 

GORU2014

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If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.

I never said Ash and Pike were the same LOL
By the way, here’s just one post where you compare them and call them both bad coaches: https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ruiting-needs-to-pick-up.160588/#post-3678771

“both rebuilds were tough and both coaches are pretty bad both coaches have similar results everyone needs to stop the charade, Stop drawing lines in the sand to defend your preferred sport or choice. It’ll be good for all of us if people just own up to it and move forward with positive vibes for both programs.”
 

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I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.

He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.

You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone out. You said Pike and Ash are the same and that Geo is terrible. I wouldn’t show my face the day after a 25 point game TBH.
It's the same half empty people who are never happy and and need to dump on something to make their day feel better.

Like Harper doesn't feel bad already after the play. Let's pick on him and the coach who called the play.

If he made it, would you be complaining.
 

RUsojo

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By the way, here’s just one post where you compare them and call them both bad coaches: https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ruiting-needs-to-pick-up.160588/#post-3678771

“both rebuilds were tough and both coaches are pretty bad both coaches have similar results everyone needs to stop the charade, Stop drawing lines in the sand to defend your preferred sport or choice. It’ll be good for all of us if people just own up to it and move forward with positive vibes for both programs.”
This was the rest of the conversation speaking to the larger point not one reply in a game thread.

“Yet he didn’t finish last in conference each year. No need to put down Ash to defend Pike. They are both in tough spots and gettting bad results. Neither was going to succeed in three seasons. Only a coach who could come in to either position and immediately recruit classes in the top half of the conference or better would succeed that quickly.”

If you’re gonna do this here is more context from an “Ash and Pike” thread https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ash-and-pike.157602/#post-3599883
 

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I never understand this. We have some very smart people here, some tremendous Rutgers fans. Yet, there are posts made as near-facts regarding current players' feelings about the coaching staff, that no Rutgers underclassmen will ever develop into anything other than what the players are right now and, my favorite, no good player will ever transfer into Rutgers in the future. New Jersey natives, sometimes led by Rutgers sports fans, show an amazing inclination to eat their own! I guess we are our own worst enemies at times...our need for success creates an atmosphere where it is difficult to actually build anything successful, I guess. Gets depressing at times.
 

GORU2014

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This was the rest of the conversation speaking to the larger point not one reply in a game thread.

“Yet he didn’t finish last in conference each year. No need to put down Ash to defend Pike. They are both in tough spots and gettting bad results. Neither was going to succeed in three seasons. Only a coach who could come in to either position and immediately recruit classes in the top half of the conference or better would succeed that quickly.”

If you’re gonna do this here is more context from an “Ash and Pike” thread https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ash-and-pike.157602/#post-3599883
Thought you never compared them
 

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Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
Even without any good transfers we won’t be Eddie Jordan level. The floor is basically early Pike level. No matter what we will be decent defensively
 

PiscatawayMike

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Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
There is 0 percent chance 2022-2023 will reach Eddie Jordan level. If you think that, you don't realize how bad the EJ era was. Also, the simple fact Pike is a 10x better coach than EJ at the collegiate level means next season will not be an embarrassment.
 

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Even without any good transfers we won’t be Eddie Jordan level. The floor is basically early Pike level. No matter what we will be decent defensively

In my opinion this year was never a make a break year. It was always “just do mot let the bottom fall out” type year especially with early season losses. We could easily be 1-8 in big10 but we are not. We have a ton of work to do but ncaa still a possibility.

I just look at history. Outside of maybe mark few every major program has had set backs on their assent to the top. Hell kentucky lost 17 games last year.
 

fluoxetine

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In my opinion this year was never a make a break year. It was always “just do mot let the bottom fall out” type year especially with early season losses. We could easily be 1-8 in big10 but we are not. We have a ton of work to do but ncaa still a possibility.

I just look at history. Outside of maybe mark few every major program has had set backs on their assent to the top. Hell kentucky lost 17 games last year.
If everyone hadn't psyched themselves up preseason that we were going to win 25 games this year the board would look a lot different now IMO.

And yes, Pike does bear some responsibility for that with his comments but people also should know not to get completely irrational based on some coachspeak.
 
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I just rattled off only the players likely to be on the 2022-2023 roster. Even with no transfers in, it’s a higher level team by any metric. And I’d be absolutely shocked if we don’t bring in at least one impact transfer.
I just dont know what to say here. If youre not kidding, I vehemently disagree and i have a hard time believing there are people that dont
 
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There is 0 percent chance 2022-2023 will reach Eddie Jordan level. If you think that, you don't realize how bad the EJ era was. Also, the simple fact Pike is a 10x better coach than EJ at the collegiate level means next season will not be an embarrassment.
Eddie’s last 2 years obviously all world horrible but year 1 he was just regular horrible at 5-13 in conference, albeit the aac. I have a hard time finding 5 conference wins next year, unless our two leading scorers are not currently on the roster.

upon second thought that is disingenuous of me comparing apples and oranges. Probably a better comparison is just to say it’ll be our worst year of the pike era in 2022-2023. Even pikes first year had some moments
 
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Eddie’s last 2 years obviously all world horrible but year 1 he was just regular horrible at 5-13 in conference, albeit the aac. I have a hard time finding 5 conference wins next year, unless our two leading scorers are not currently on the roster.

upon second thought that is disingenuous of me comparing apples and oranges. Probably a better comparison is just to say it’ll be our worst year of the pike era in 2022-2023. Even pikes first year had some moments
When people say Eddie Jordan they mean the third year. The first two were just dreadful rather than like all-time worst P5 team type bad. Pike's first team was significantly better than any Jordan team and he inherited the all-time worst one and barely had time to add anything of note to it.
 

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I just dont know what to say here. If youre not kidding, I vehemently disagree and i have a hard time believing there are people that dont
You have at least 3 people here saying the same thing. I don’t think anyone other than Sanders would start here next season and I’m not sure that anyone beyond him, Freeman, and maybe Williams would get any significant minutes (Myles Mack was super talented but wouldn’t picture him playing a ton with his height).

Pair those teams up with a coach who openly admitted he didn’t teach defense or rebounding and you’re just not looking at remotely the same level of performance as we should see next year. We lost 17 in a row for crying out loud.
 
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You have at least 3 people here saying the same thing. I don’t think anyone other than Sanders would start here next season and I’m not sure that anyone beyond him, Freeman, and maybe Williams would get any significant minutes (Myles Mack was super talented but wouldn’t picture him playing a ton with his height).

Pair those teams up with a coach who openly admitted he didn’t teach defense or rebounding and you’re just not looking at remotely the same level of performance as we should see next year. We lost 17 in a row for crying out loud.
What do you define as “higher level team”. Because for me thats AT LEAST top half of big ten. Without transfers you say were a higher level team, i would say find me more than 3 big ten wins with that roster
 
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What do you define as “higher level team”. Because for me thats AT LEAST top half of big ten. Without transfers you say were a higher level team, i would say find me more than 3 big ten wins with that roster
I assume he meant a higher level than Jordan’s teams.
 
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biazza38

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We’re approaching 2 years since Pike last landed a player out of HS (Cliff) that can be considered a impact player. It doesn’t get worse than that when it comes to recruiting.
Two years people. Two freaking years
 
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We’re approaching 2 years since Pike last landed a player out of HS (Cliff) that can be considered a impact player. It doesn’t get worse than that when it comes to recruiting.
Two years people. Two freaking years
zzz

Unless you’re a ******* scout why don’t you wait until the players actually get here before evaluating them?
 

fluoxetine

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Also “out of HS” is a ******** squirrelly qualifier. Did Jacob young’s contribution to the team not count because we didn’t get him out of HS?
 

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Jordan level bad is hard to duplicate. However, next year's team will be very bad without a significant talent infusion. Geo and Ron account for about 30 pts per game. Where on the current roster are those points coming from.
Unless Pike finds several gems in the portal, this is a bottom 3 team in the BIG next year.
 
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