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I mean I don’t expect him to say publicly what he really thinksIt was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
Same BS how about the 27 inbound plays we have yet we can’t run one at the end of yesterday’s game and that’s after the timeoutIt was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
He definitely doesn’t give you much in an interview . And the hype he gives is usually wrong . He’s a seasoned politician. But I get it, don’t give anyone bulletin board materialIt was a replay for sundays recap actually. No offense talk, just said the same thing hes said in every interview for 6 years. We have a great homecourt, hard work is more important than anything else, its not all about scoring points, its about defense and rebounding, hard to get road wins etc
We needed a program builder . He has done a great job . The question is what happens next ? Pike gets some time here and deserves it , but he doesn’t get too much . We don’t want to have to go back to a complete rebuild.Program builder.
Not a next level coach.
Everyone does. Read the threadsWhy do you all come out from under your bridges after losses? Should spend some time here after wins if you’re Rutgers fans
Program builder.
Not a next level coach.
I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.Everyone does. Read the threads
The soonest we part ways would be after the 2023-2024 season. This offseason will tell us what direction this program is headed in. Odds are jaden jones transfers. We lose geo and ron. Caleb has one more year of eligibility but does he use it? I think he does. Who knows what happens with cliff, i believe he thinks hes better than he really is and it wouldnt shock me if he leaves, in no way shape or form though is he close to being an NBA player at this point in his career.I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.
He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.
I actually watched and went to games when Eddie Jordan was here. 3 guys with NCAA tournament experience (6 if you want to count Jones, Mag, and Reiber although I’m not because I don’t think any of them played), 4 (non-consensus) four stars. That’s not an Eddie Jordan level team, and Pike is certainly above an Eddie Jordan level coach and recruiter. You’d have to have a total lack of knowledge of pre-2016 Rutgers basketball to say otherwise.The soonest we part ways would be after the 2023-2024 season. This offseason will tell us what direction this program is headed in. Odds are jaden jones transfers. We lose geo and ron. Caleb has one more year of eligibility but does he use it? I think he does. Who knows what happens with cliff, i believe he thinks hes better than he really is and it wouldnt shock me if he leaves, in no way shape or form though is he close to being an NBA player at this point in his career.
so next year best case scenario is we bring back paul, caleb, hyatt, miller, mag, reiber, cliff? Thats an eddie jordan level bad team. Then we bring in a freshman guard and a football player forward. Not only do we need to hit the portal hard, but we need like double digit scorer impact players in the portal.
If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.
He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.
You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone out. You said Pike and Ash are the same and that Geo is terrible. I wouldn’t show my face the day after a 25 point game TBH.
Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan levelI actually watched and went to games when Eddie Jordan was here. 3 guys with NCAA tournament experience (6 if you want to count Jones, Mag, and Reiber although I’m not because I don’t think any of them played), 4 (non-consensus) four stars. That’s not an Eddie Jordan level team, and Pike is certainly above an Eddie Jordan level coach and recruiter. You’d have to have a total lack of knowledge of pre-2016 Rutgers basketball to say otherwise.
Young, Yeboah, and even Gettys contributed as transfers and that was before the portal became so easy to use. Acting like we won’t get any transfers in when we have significantly more minutes to give next year seems like a poor conclusion.
I mean, you can look through the post histories and see that what you’re saying isn’t true. BlockR doesn’t post anything positive and is largely MIA after wins. Same with RU#1fan. The dentist mostly posts angry threads about Jalen Miller for some reason. Kyk is primarily our Jacob Young and 2 for 1 guy although I think he’s still the most positive out of that bunch.If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.
I never said Ash and Pike were the same LOL
I just rattled off only the players likely to be on the 2022-2023 roster. Even with no transfers in, it’s a higher level team by any metric. And I’d be absolutely shocked if we don’t bring in at least one impact transfer.Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
By the way, here’s just one post where you compare them and call them both bad coaches: https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ruiting-needs-to-pick-up.160588/#post-3678771If you read the threads you’d see people give props after wins yet people like you come out and make the comments you did.
I never said Ash and Pike were the same LOL
It's the same half empty people who are never happy and and need to dump on something to make their day feel better.I do read the threads because I’m not a troll who just comes here to pretend Pike should be fired in order to hire Rick Pitino or Penny Hardaway.
He’s not getting fired nor should he. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to just redirect their energy.
You of all people shouldn’t be calling anyone out. You said Pike and Ash are the same and that Geo is terrible. I wouldn’t show my face the day after a 25 point game TBH.
This was the rest of the conversation speaking to the larger point not one reply in a game thread.By the way, here’s just one post where you compare them and call them both bad coaches: https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ruiting-needs-to-pick-up.160588/#post-3678771
“both rebuilds were tough and both coaches are pretty bad both coaches have similar results everyone needs to stop the charade, Stop drawing lines in the sand to defend your preferred sport or choice. It’ll be good for all of us if people just own up to it and move forward with positive vibes for both programs.”
It was a terrible inbound play
Thought you never compared themThis was the rest of the conversation speaking to the larger point not one reply in a game thread.
“Yet he didn’t finish last in conference each year. No need to put down Ash to defend Pike. They are both in tough spots and gettting bad results. Neither was going to succeed in three seasons. Only a coach who could come in to either position and immediately recruit classes in the top half of the conference or better would succeed that quickly.”
If you’re gonna do this here is more context from an “Ash and Pike” thread https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ash-and-pike.157602/#post-3599883
Even without any good transfers we won’t be Eddie Jordan level. The floor is basically early Pike level. No matter what we will be decent defensivelyIm not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
There is 0 percent chance 2022-2023 will reach Eddie Jordan level. If you think that, you don't realize how bad the EJ era was. Also, the simple fact Pike is a 10x better coach than EJ at the collegiate level means next season will not be an embarrassment.Im not saying this team is, im saying 2022-2023 is going to be an eddie jordan level squad UNLESS we land true impact dynamic players in the portal and im skeptical of that. Im talking like, we need our 2 best players in 2022-2023 to be currently playing at other schools. Otherwise eddie jordan level
Even without any good transfers we won’t be Eddie Jordan level. The floor is basically early Pike level. No matter what we will be decent defensively
If everyone hadn't psyched themselves up preseason that we were going to win 25 games this year the board would look a lot different now IMO.In my opinion this year was never a make a break year. It was always “just do mot let the bottom fall out” type year especially with early season losses. We could easily be 1-8 in big10 but we are not. We have a ton of work to do but ncaa still a possibility.
I just look at history. Outside of maybe mark few every major program has had set backs on their assent to the top. Hell kentucky lost 17 games last year.
I just dont know what to say here. If youre not kidding, I vehemently disagree and i have a hard time believing there are people that dontI just rattled off only the players likely to be on the 2022-2023 roster. Even with no transfers in, it’s a higher level team by any metric. And I’d be absolutely shocked if we don’t bring in at least one impact transfer.
Eddie’s last 2 years obviously all world horrible but year 1 he was just regular horrible at 5-13 in conference, albeit the aac. I have a hard time finding 5 conference wins next year, unless our two leading scorers are not currently on the roster.There is 0 percent chance 2022-2023 will reach Eddie Jordan level. If you think that, you don't realize how bad the EJ era was. Also, the simple fact Pike is a 10x better coach than EJ at the collegiate level means next season will not be an embarrassment.
When people say Eddie Jordan they mean the third year. The first two were just dreadful rather than like all-time worst P5 team type bad. Pike's first team was significantly better than any Jordan team and he inherited the all-time worst one and barely had time to add anything of note to it.Eddie’s last 2 years obviously all world horrible but year 1 he was just regular horrible at 5-13 in conference, albeit the aac. I have a hard time finding 5 conference wins next year, unless our two leading scorers are not currently on the roster.
upon second thought that is disingenuous of me comparing apples and oranges. Probably a better comparison is just to say it’ll be our worst year of the pike era in 2022-2023. Even pikes first year had some moments
You have at least 3 people here saying the same thing. I don’t think anyone other than Sanders would start here next season and I’m not sure that anyone beyond him, Freeman, and maybe Williams would get any significant minutes (Myles Mack was super talented but wouldn’t picture him playing a ton with his height).I just dont know what to say here. If youre not kidding, I vehemently disagree and i have a hard time believing there are people that dont
What do you define as “higher level team”. Because for me thats AT LEAST top half of big ten. Without transfers you say were a higher level team, i would say find me more than 3 big ten wins with that rosterYou have at least 3 people here saying the same thing. I don’t think anyone other than Sanders would start here next season and I’m not sure that anyone beyond him, Freeman, and maybe Williams would get any significant minutes (Myles Mack was super talented but wouldn’t picture him playing a ton with his height).
Pair those teams up with a coach who openly admitted he didn’t teach defense or rebounding and you’re just not looking at remotely the same level of performance as we should see next year. We lost 17 in a row for crying out loud.
I assume he meant a higher level than Jordan’s teams.What do you define as “higher level team”. Because for me thats AT LEAST top half of big ten. Without transfers you say were a higher level team, i would say find me more than 3 big ten wins with that roster
zzzWe’re approaching 2 years since Pike last landed a player out of HS (Cliff) that can be considered a impact player. It doesn’t get worse than that when it comes to recruiting.
Two years people. Two freaking years
Two years is not zzzzzz.zzz
Unless you’re a ****ing scout why don’t you wait until the players actually get here before evaluating them?
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