Pete Thamel

[Spiderman.sixpack]

Say Mullen to USC on Finebaum.

Says there are no "names" out there this year to take it, and Mullen makes most sense. I always said that there were very few jobs he would leave for, but USC would be one you'd have to seriously consider.

That said, I really don't see it now at this time.

Discuss.........
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[57stratdawg]

I'm sure he would go. Couldn't blame him.

But, if you take out Pete Carroll USC's record over the last 30 years or so isn't exactly triumphant.

 

[aTotal360]

lateral move.**

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Could not pay me to live in LA

but that's just me.

 

[patdog]

We must be having s good season. The Mullen to ______ rumors are starting.

 

[msstate7]

I say no way usc comes after Mullen. I just can't see them coming after a coach with zero ties to the area and who isn't a national recruiter. Usc will want a pro style offense anyway

 

[Shmuley]

Would be a helluva good move for Megan's career. Could see it.

 

[WutheringDawg]

Someone should have explained this to Stricklin before we went all in on Dietrich.

 

[ronpolk]

Say Mullen to USC on Finebaum.

Says there are no "names" out there this year to take it, and Mullen makes most sense. I always said that there were very few jobs he would leave for, but USC would be one you'd have to seriously consider.

That said, I really don't see it now at this time.

Discuss.........
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I could see this year being a perfect year for Mullen to leave since Dak is graduating. If he does leave, I'd certainly have no hard feelings. He's changed everything about this program. With all that said, I don't think he leaves. I think he likes MSU and the program is in a good place.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Currently it looks like her career is raising young children. Looks like she likes it.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Mullen is just the name they throw out there out of pure laziness. Like others have said, he doesn't fit the mold of what they want. They always want a pro style offense and he has zero ties out there. They are going to go after someone on the west coast or at least someone with ties to USC.

 

[Bulldogg31]

And when I think of great places to raise small children, Los Angeles California is always top of the list.

Si?

 

[hatfieldms]

I think they at least check with Chip Kelly to see if he is tired of the NFL yet

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[msstate7]

If they don't, the AD should be fired

 

[Palos verdes]

That guy didn't know what he was talking about. It was his attempt to foster the media's agenda with Mullen staying in Starkville. That he's still coaching at a dump in the middle of nowhere, and so on. USC would not be ideal for Mullen. It's a prima donna program. Dan is a developmental coach that works best with blue collar kids that are willing to work. USC attracts different players.

 

[kired]

Honestly it's pretty rare for an SEC head coach to leave for anywhere else. I guess Franklin left Vandy, Meyer sort of left Florida... but who else has recently left when they didn't have to?

I wouldn't count Kiffin after just one season and Arkansas was tired of Nutt.

The SEC pays so well now that a coach has to badly want a change in scenery to leave.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Does Urban Meyer count?

 

[Palos verdes]

How many head coaches has Southern Cal had since Carroll left? That's the biggest issue they face getting a coach.

 

[patdog]

We're in better shape than USC is as far as quarterbacks go next season.

 

[Snog]

True but Franklin left for Penn St and Meyer for OSU. Not necessarily lateral moves. Not that USC is a lateral move.
If they call, I'm sure he'd listen. Just not sure it's a fit.

 

[Rezdog]

I don't know if Mullen would go there or not but I wouldn't blame him if he did. The path to winning a national title is much easier at USC than here.

 

[msstate7]

How much would usc have to pay Mullen to make him better paid than 4 million a year in Starkville?

 

[57stratdawg]

Two words.. Har. bah.

 

[00Dawg]

On cost of living alone, $4 million in Starkville $6,875,000 in LA. Plus how high would we go to match it? I gotta think we'd pay $5 million to keep Dan if we win at least 9 by December.

 

[Thirty-Two Dive]

Pete Thamel was always real tuned in the the UF program, and those that fell from that tree. By tuned in, I don't mean all-knowing. More like propaganda device...

I'm not worried about Dan leaving for USC. That athletic department is a fustercluck, pure and simple.

 

[operch]

The path may be easier, but which NC would be more attractive. A lot of coaches could win a NC at scal but Mississippi State would be special.

 

[dawgphd]

I hope we don't but if we lose a coach to USC so be it.

There may be 15 schools that can take our coach and they are probably one. Hell their AD, Haden, made 1.5mm last year. (Sorry Scott)

That's a far cry from the 50 schools it probably used to be that could take our coach.

Also there will now be a long line when we have an opening.

As an aside, I think CA state income tax is about double MS. One of you CPA's can chime in if I'm wrong.

 

[Hail State]

Mullen would be crazy.

Say Mullen to USC on Finebaum.

Says there are no "names" out there this year to take it, and Mullen makes most sense. I always said that there were very few jobs he would leave for, but USC would be one you'd have to seriously consider.

That said, I really don't see it now at this time.

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The paradigm of the game has changed. The so called powers that be of yesteryear are too volatile. How many coaches has USC been through in the last four years? I believe the answer is five? Making 4.5 million at State and being a rockstar in the state of Mississippi is > making 3 mil in LA for 1.5 years before they meltdown for the sixth time this decade and wind up being a coordinator by year 2018.

The days of State losing a coach due to money or a perceived "better job" are over. Not saying a coach won't leave or be fired but it won't be because we're a springboard program.

 

[patdog]

Neither of those is a valid comparison. Meyer had to get out of football for a while before he killed himself. Leaving Florida and going to OSU were two different things and a year apart. Vandy hardly counts as an SEC football program.

I agree, if they call, I suspect he'd listen. But I don't see it as a good fit either. USC may wind up giving their interim coach the job if he keeps them playing like they are so far under him.

 

[barely]

can we be like ole miss and tell everyone that our coach was offered the USC job

 

[Maroon Eagle]

He wrote about it earlier this week. Mullen's on a list of people he mentioned.

USC

Status: Open
Breakdown: Just when it looked like USC athletic director Pat Haden's tenure couldn't get any worse, it did. The Los Angeles Times published a devastating story on Haden last Friday that reported he serves on seven boards—four foundations and three businesses. The Times wrote that Haden makes more than a half-million annually from the side work and questioned how he could possibly properly concentrate on his day job. And let's not forget Haden's position on the College Football Playoff Committee, which is another enormous time commitment. The totality of the findings, Haden's recent poor health and the football program's poor state offered yet another black eye for one of the most beleaguered figures in college sports.
The good news for Haden is that USC's football coach is still one of the nation's top jobs. Steve Sarkisian leaves behind a roster of blue chippers and there's been a spate of recent facility upgrades. What USC has to decide is whether it is going to target a top-tier coach and offer $6 or $7 million per year or settle for another underwhelming hire like Lane Kiffin or Sarkisian. USC targeted Texas A&M's Kevin Sumlin last time, and he ended up with a $30 million contract from Texas A&M instead. There are really two USC lists. There's a dream list with coaches like Chip Kelly, Bill O'Brien, Bob Stoops and Jason Garrett where USC would need to break the bank. Don't expect Sean Payton to be on USC's list after his reported alleged links to Vicodin in a lawsuit in 2010 (Payton has denied any wrongdoing). Too risky with Sarkisian's issues that led to his firing. The guess here is that USC doesn't hit its dream list.
One other thing to consider: Don't count out Clay Helton if USC wins out. With all that talent there, there has to be some consideration for stability. (Haden thinks a lot of Helton).
Dream List: Chip Kelly, Bob Stoops, Bill O'Brien, Jason Garrett
Realistic List: Kyle Whittingham, Clay Helton, Pat Fitzgerald, Dan Mullen, Jeff Fisher, Jack Del Rio and Pat Narduzzi.

You can read the whole article here: Link.

 

[aTotal360]

Jeff Fisher isn't realist nor does he want the job. He's making $7M/year. Kelly is making $6.5M

 

[patdog]

Just skimmed the article. Pretty bad. First off, Southern Cal is on a much higher tier than Miami or VA Tech. Drop them down to 2nd tier along with South Carolina. Maryland & Virginia in the 3rd tier, and the rest in the bottom.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

On cost of living alone, $4 million in Starkville $6,875,000 in LA. Plus how high would we go to match it? I gotta think we'd pay $5 million to keep Dan if we win at least 9 by December.

He needs to be making 5 Million. Especially if he keeps winning 9+ games in the SEC West.

 

[SuspectZero]

Would it be too crazy to think that USC might take a shot at Jimbo Fisher? He has made Fl St a power again. Would Jimbo consider if offered?

 

[kired]

Agreed. If you leave out Vandy coaches, there have only been 5 coaches that I can come up with that have been "hired away" in the modern SEC era (since Arkansas / South Car joined)

Spurrier to Redskins
Saban to Dolphins
Tuberville to Auburn
Kiffin to USC
Guy Morriss - Kentucky to Baylor

Spurrier is the only one that left after coaching more than 5 years at that school. I really don't understand why anyone would consider Mullen a realistic candidate for any job.

 

[Joe Schmedlap]

The take home message for me is that this is not the year State wants to find a new head corch in the offseason. Hope Dan is happy in Starkvegas. He's paid very well and it is difficult to justify paying a lot more than he receives already. I suppose there is a modest bump in his 4 million dollar salary already built in to his contract. 5 million dollar coaches don't take a delay of game penalty while in field goal range and with a timeout to burn 4 to 4.25 million is about right given what is paid elsewhere in the SEC.

What are the details of Manny's contract? Is he due for a bump to the 750k range before next season? He will certainly get some looks in the future as a head coach somewhere. Going to need to pay the man (and all of our good assistants) to keep the coaching staff intact. I'm still of the opinion that we underpay our assistants. Since Dan is the de facto offensive coordinator, I wish we had thrown 750 to 800k to both Diaz and Orgeron back in January to be our co-coordinators. Diaz could focus on X's and O's while Orgeron focused on recruiting Jimmies and Joes.

 

[patdog]

I hope Dan is happy too. Actually, I'm pretty sure he's happy. I hope USC doesn't offer him the job. That's the only one of the jobs open I could see him possibly leaving for. Agree that this isn't an ideal year for us to be looking for a new coach, if it comes to that. But we'll still be a very attractive job. None of the jobs open are clearly better, and really only South Carolina is equal. As for Manny, the only way he leaves is for a head coaching job, and I can't see many mid-majors who would be able to match his salary as DC here.

 

[HotMop]

I'd prefer some place warm...like Aspin.

 

[RocketDawg]

I haven't looked at the list lately, but as I recall, generally speaking the SEC pays much better than the Pac 12. I doubt that USC would offer much more, if any, than what he makes at MSU. And he'd need to double his salary to maintain the same standard of living, and he probably would have a really hard time recreating his house in LA for any sort of reasonable amount.

And now he can get to work in 5 minutes; there, he be lucky if he had just a 2 hour drive. Starkville's not a great town by any stretch of the imagination, but it's certainly a decent place if you're the richest man in town and one of the highest paid in the state.