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number1cats

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Duke has 3 of the top 5 draft picks, including Zion, the second coming of LeBron James . They didn’t make a Final 4, and should have lost in the second round to UCF.

Kentucky has been playing basketball for a long, long time and we have 8 championships, second most of any school, but still only 8.

Winning a basketball championship is the hardest thing to do. Much harder than football, in my opinion.
 
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AlbanyWildCat

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We still lost to this guy...

 
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Rideordiewildcat

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I feel a little better.[banana] Fire K. Bagley and Co. last year and Zion, 1-2 and 3 this year. Come on fire K horrible coaching job.
 
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TankedCat

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if there is any perspective to be gained it should be how incredibly hard it is to win a championship with one and dones.

Given the history of one and dones, there is no rationale to believe that you have a better chance to win a championship with them than with the traditional route of building up college players year after year into a veteran team.

Matter of fact, I think you can make the argument that with a diluted talent pool being shared among multiple programs, its harder to go the one and done route than to build a traditional team.
 
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TankedCat said:
if there is any perspective to be gained it should be how incredibly hard it is to win a championship with one and dones.

Given the history of one and dones, there is no rationale to believe that you have a better chance to win a championship with them than with the traditional route of building up college players year after year into a veteran team.

Matter of fact, I think you can make the argument that with a diluted talent pool being shared among multiple programs, its harder to go the one and done route than to build a traditional team.
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It’s hard to win with one and dones. It’s hard to win without them. It’s hard to win a championship , period.
 
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TankedCat

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number1cats said:
It’s hard to win with one and dones. It’s hard to win without them. It’s hard to win a championship , period.
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absolutely it is

buy why choose a path that makes it harder?

there was an argument to be made that one and done was best path when we were the only ones doing it

now that argument doesn't seem valid.
 
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MO_Blue

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TankedCat said:
if there is any perspective to be gained it should be how incredibly hard it is to win a championship with one and dones.

Given the history of one and dones, there is no rationale to believe that you have a better chance to win a championship with them than with the traditional route of building up college players year after year into a veteran team.

Matter of fact, I think you can make the argument that with a diluted talent pool being shared among multiple programs, its harder to go the one and done route than to build a traditional team.
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That's what the announcers said at the end of Duke's game. Except for 2012 and 2015, OADs have not got the job done.
 
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Woodrow24

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I think it shows the importance of building a roster that has experienced players. It’s hard to win in the NCAA tournament without veteran leadership. Our team definitely needed more than one upperclassmen on the floor this season.
 
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kybassfan

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TankedCat said:
if there is any perspective to be gained it should be how incredibly hard it is to win a championship with one and dones.

Given the history of one and dones, there is no rationale to believe that you have a better chance to win a championship with them than with the traditional route of building up college players year after year into a veteran team.

Matter of fact, I think you can make the argument that with a diluted talent pool being shared among multiple programs, its harder to go the one and done route than to build a traditional team.
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It is incredibly hard to win a championship. Ask the 300+ failures just this year.
 
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number1cats

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TankedCat said:
absolutely it is

buy why choose a path that makes it harder?

there was an argument to be made that one and done was best path when we were the only ones doing it

now that argument doesn't seem valid.
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I respect your posts and respect your position. I wish it were different.

I don’t know which one and dones we’ve had that we shouldn’t have recruited. They were going to college somewhere.
 
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Only 2 teams out of 300+ depend on one-and-dones. They were both in the Elite 8. And these same two programs have won 2 of the last 7 titles. If anything, this proves that a team of one-and-dones is your best chance at success.
 
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TBCat

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Right now I think the CBS executives are the ones jumping off the cliff. The ratings for this Final Four will probably be the worst in history.
 
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TankedCat

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number1cats said:
I respect your posts and respect your position. I wish it were different.

I don’t know which one and dones we’ve had that we shouldn’t have recruited. They were going to college somewhere.
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you're right

any team in the nation would have wanted the players we have

but not every program in the nation would have 6 or 7 scholarships to give every year.

We should strive to lose as many seniors to graduation as we do freshmen to the NBA.
 
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rmattox

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One thing cbb has over the nba is this:
With the one and out tournament, the best team does not always win. In fact, I'd say the consensus best team usually does not win the tournament.

On the other hand, the nba's boring, tedious play-off system is horrible, but the best team almost always wins.

I still prefer the college game.
 
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