Your problem is with the NFL, so stop trying to blow up college athletics.
This is just yet another misplaced used of social justice warriorism. White-Knighting if you will.
Paying players
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This is just yet another misplaced used of social justice warriorism. White-Knighting if you will.
I used to be of the opinion that players should get salaries. I no longer think that. They’re already getting paid. The universities aren’t to blame if there’s some perceived “unfair bargaining,” the NFL is. At Mississippi State, the total cost of attendance (tuition, room and board, books and supplies, and other expenses) is $24,370 per year for in-state students. If a player stays at State for 5 years on a football scholarship, he has been paid $121,850, and has been given the opportunity to earn at least one degree. For free. Let’s say a high-profile, out of state recruit signs. He’s going to the NFL in 3 years, hypothetically. Once he’s declared for the draft after 3 years, he has netted $115,230 in benefits, while getting to pursue his dream to play football and receive the best coaching and medical/athletic training available. It’s not a bad deal.
I am shocked you managed to force SJW into this conversation. What socially progressive agenda am i supposedly pushing here?
If I had it my way, college athletics would be de-emphasized compared to how they are now. Student athletes would gain entrance using the same parameters as other students. The athletics arms race all the major universities participate in would slow down significantly.
Having recently been a college football player literally does make his opinion on life as a college football player more valid.
It still doesn't make his opinion gospel, so disagree with him all you want, but calling him naive doesn't seem to be the winning argument.
I didn’t say they needed anything. I was just summarizing what the proposals on the table were. And if you read the rest of the post you’d see I also don’t think its a good idea.
Rich white boogeymen are taking advantage of poor black athletes. That is at the root of the agenda. It is IN NO WAY true, but that is the hidden talking point. Funny enough, the black/white split in FBS football is 50/50.
How would you control fans pouring money into the football system? Are you some sort of wizard?
If the NFL would allow 18 year olds to be drafted, the money still would not slow down. The college product would be less talented, but I don't think that would stop the money one bit.
^^This. To pay players is to open a Pandora's box of problems in an attempt to solve issues that will never be solved anyway.
What if it cuts both ways; for example, if institutions decide to sic lawyers on student athletes who DAMAGE the school's image through drug use, criminal activity, poor athletic performance/development, etc?
You won't stop illegal payments.
Athletic budgets for smaller schools can't bear it.
Huge pissing match on who gets what in each sport, and even that will be a ***** to quantify and reconcile. What about injury? What about starters vs scout team? Men vs women? Football gets same as golf team? Student assistants? The Band? Should it be taxed, and at what rate? What about benefits, like insurance or workman's comp for injured athletes? What a cluster17.
I despise the blanket rules passed because of once-in-a-while-unicorn type players who end up making millions in the end anyway.
If yall think a full ride degree, room and board, food, and stipend are small potatoes, you're living in a different world than I.
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Correct, and I see no other way to look at the situation. They're being paid well.
Did you include food? I understand they also get some sort of cash stipend, but I don't know how much or if they actually do get it.
Did you include food? I understand they also get some sort of cash stipend, but I don't know how much or if they actually do get it.
You said I am being an SJW and then defend the accusation with this? Thats total ********. Go 17 yourself.
I have never made the argument that its rich white men taking advantage of poor black athletes. I fully recognize that racial minorities are more than capable of taking advantage of kids their own color. The system of college football(on which my comments caused you to cry SJW) is in place because rich white men and rich black men alike want to keep power. Toss Asian and Hispanic in there if you want. Toss women in there too as Condi Rice and some female ADs certainly are involved in the current system.
I also havent said 'poor black athletes' once or even hinted at such. I completely view student athletes as a general group and have not broken that group down into gender or racial groups when forming my views on this issue.
Again- go 17 yourself. You brought up SJW. You brought up white knighting. My views arent based on SJW motivation in the least.
How does the Ivy League manage to exist?
To actually answer your question- there are many ways to control $ pouring into football.
One obvious way would be to cap what is allowed to be spent on football operations. This could be at a conference level or divisional level(FBS/FCS). This would include everything that is spent on football- equipment, coaching, travel, buildings, etc and could be weighted against the Cost of Living index for a particular region to further level the field. It would also create an artificially more competitive landscape.
Remaining athletics money would be dedicated the rest of the athletic department which would also have a cap and then to a general school education fund.
Caps exist in US athletics to help maintain competitiveness so this would be nothing new to fans here.
Less absurdly over the top lounges for players. Less insane coaching salary inflation. Less building buildings just for the **** of it because there is so much money.
See, my views arent simply for the player and against the university. They are also for the education side and against the athletics side(the very players you accuse me of SJWing).
Oh- amost forgot to say- go 17 yourself once more for good measure.
You want to pay them what they are worth? Great. Get rid of title 9 and protect the universities from future lawsuits in regards to discrimination, etc. I'd start to consider it at that point.
There is no other reason to be for paying the players, except that one is simply being a snowflake liberal. That is just how it is. If you have that POV, that is how I classify you. Just own it.
Isn't this the truth.
Next thing they will say is that women's softball brings in more money than college baseball, or something or other. Ha! I guess it's true because TV RATINGS! Yeah, right.
While not the most ideal comparison, I greyshirted my first semester at State. Didn't practice, workout, receive any scholarship funds, etc. Had no involvement with the football team. So I lived a regular student's life early on for a semester. Again not perfect, but I experienced both sides.
One thing about paying players that nobody talks about is your lower division level schools. You can't tell me that Belhaven and Mississippi College has it in their budget to pay players. If they can't be paid then your gonna have a whole lot of lawsuits on your hands.
Not naive at all. It all comes out in the open, If a student athlete wishes to partake in American capitalism it is up to them. They will have to pay taxes on their income, possibly a licensing fee if they sell signed gear with a schools logo, and all that money comes out in the open. The NCAA just has to police if the school is involved other than licensing fees. If a school wishes to break the rules and help setup the student athlete to do that, then they can suffer the consequences. Now will some people setup businesses and sign student athletes to sign things or maybe shoe companies sign some high profile guys. Its possible, but that kind of happens now and again the money comes out in the open.
Belhaven is d3. They already dont award scholarships. No issue there.
Mc is d2 so they do offer some.
Set it up so a division as a whole pays. It's effectively how the system works now with fcs having less scholarships than fbs and d2 having less than fcs.
Well thats a conversation render.
You offer 0 defense of a viewpoint, calling someone who disagrees a pop-pejorative, and then double down on everything.
Can't say much to that. Alrighty then.
College athletics seem like a fair deal to me. I agree beforehand that in exchange for my talents and effort at football, you are going to provide everything I need to receive a higher education. Sure a handful of the players are well undervalued, but they support the whole. It's a socialist organization, just like the entire college system. We have many socialist organizations in the US, most are needed to allow the Capitalist economy to thrive.
I made a socialist deal twice to help pay for college. In grad school, we conducted research for much less than I could have made in "the real world." $8.00 bucks an hour if I recall. I still had to pay my tuition, room and board, etc. Much like athletics, most students conducting research work are getting the better end of the deal. A few really talented ones are contributing way more than their fair share, but It's part of the deal. The most talented students will be rewarded after school for their efforts... Also, they are usually conducting research that in some way contributes to the betterment of society. For what it's worth, Mississippi State generates 2-3 times more research revenue than athletic revenue. Now who is getting exploited again?
Another socialist deal I entered, was the military. We were all equally paid for our talent and effort. How is it fair that an Army or Marine infantryman makes the same pay as a cook? Talk about profitting of our work... The entire US economy is attributable to the military protecting it. On a personal note I am pretty sure my likeness was used in the movie Major Payne, with no compensation.**
A vast majority of the enlisted personnel, (75% in a 2011 Pew study) list education benefits as a primary reason for joining the military. Only serving my country
at 88% was higher. (Kinda like why did you sign up for college football-I love the game and to pay for college..) So in exchange for paying for some of your education (Post 9/11 benefits are much better) you get to deploy around the world for 2-6 years and put your life on the line. Litteraly get killed. Oh and if you decide you don't like it, you can quit and risk prison time and ruin the rest of your life.
So here's the deal. Do a handful of the participants contribute more than they recieve in value... Sure. It happens all over the University, for that matter, the world. Football is very challenging for student athletes and some of them are underpaid relative to performance. Football supports the University as a whole, which includes other athletes and the other students, but nowhere near as much as research. What if we started dishing out research money to grad students based on performance? Major Universities would have the facilities of a community college. What if the kids that joined the military were paid fairly... How much is fair for someone who saved the world from Hitler, or battlef the Viet Cong, or took a chunk of shrapnel in the *** in Afghanistan chasing terrorists? What about Police? Teachers?
Sometimes we are not fairly compensated. It's called service to others. In the case of college football it's a service to their fellow students. A small sacrifice in my eyes. If you don't like it, your problem is with the NFL for discrimination based on age... There is just no place for Capitalism in college or the military. Capitalism in college is the University of Phoenix. Capitalism in the military is a mercenary system.
I made a socialist deal twice to help pay for college. In grad school, we conducted research for much less than I could have made in "the real world." $8.00 bucks an hour if I recall. I still had to pay my tuition, room and board, etc. Much like athletics, most students conducting research work are getting the better end of the deal. A few really talented ones are contributing way more than their fair share, but It's part of the deal. The most talented students will be rewarded after school for their efforts... Also, they are usually conducting research that in some way contributes to the betterment of society. For what it's worth, Mississippi State generates 2-3 times more research revenue than athletic revenue. Now who is getting exploited again?
Another socialist deal I entered, was the military. We were all equally paid for our talent and effort. How is it fair that an Army or Marine infantryman makes the same pay as a cook? Talk about profitting of our work... The entire US economy is attributable to the military protecting it. On a personal note I am pretty sure my likeness was used in the movie Major Payne, with no compensation.**
A vast majority of the enlisted personnel, (75% in a 2011 Pew study) list education benefits as a primary reason for joining the military. Only serving my country
at 88% was higher. (Kinda like why did you sign up for college football-I love the game and to pay for college..) So in exchange for paying for some of your education (Post 9/11 benefits are much better) you get to deploy around the world for 2-6 years and put your life on the line. Litteraly get killed. Oh and if you decide you don't like it, you can quit and risk prison time and ruin the rest of your life.
So here's the deal. Do a handful of the participants contribute more than they recieve in value... Sure. It happens all over the University, for that matter, the world. Football is very challenging for student athletes and some of them are underpaid relative to performance. Football supports the University as a whole, which includes other athletes and the other students, but nowhere near as much as research. What if we started dishing out research money to grad students based on performance? Major Universities would have the facilities of a community college. What if the kids that joined the military were paid fairly... How much is fair for someone who saved the world from Hitler, or battlef the Viet Cong, or took a chunk of shrapnel in the *** in Afghanistan chasing terrorists? What about Police? Teachers?
Sometimes we are not fairly compensated. It's called service to others. In the case of college football it's a service to their fellow students. A small sacrifice in my eyes. If you don't like it, your problem is with the NFL for discrimination based on age... There is just no place for Capitalism in college or the military. Capitalism in college is the University of Phoenix. Capitalism in the military is a mercenary system.
Thanks for the input. Seriously. Regardless of what some say on here, I think it would be great to get perspective from someone who would have been directly affected by adding some additional compensation. That being said, what is your opinion on if an additional stipend is needed? Even though you say SA’s don’t always live “the good life” compared to other students, do you feel the financial aspect is adequate, or does it leave more to be desired? Does it perhaps vary from sport to sport?
He’s taking one example of him greyshirting and trying to compare it the whole situation. When you have players riding around in $40,000 trucks, getting school paid for, receiving $5,000 stipends, you are living the good life. So please continue “swede39” to be naive on this subject. There’s nothing you can say that tells me they aren’t living an easier life in college and thereafter due to the advantages given to them while playing.
No way! Really?*****..... obviously this was an example. Most still have nice cars. However, that was besides the point.
Sure, it CAN be, but why? We have always had college sports, that you play in exchange for a scholarship. Now, the money has gotten bigger in football (and basketball to a certain extent).
To me, is it worth the risk to destroy what college sports are right now, because you think that somehow these players are being done wrongly? That is insane. The players GET SO MUCH MORE BACK than they have to give up. Remember - you don't have to play. I see the argument all the time that they are "risking their body". So what? Everybody does that to a certain extent.
There is just no real reason to change this. The NFL is the free market (and CFL, XFL, Arena, whatever). Why not attack the NFL, and make them form a developmental league, or at least allow kids to enter the draft at 20 or so (after their sophomore year)? Even Jadaveon Clowney was not a sure-fire NFL guy until after his second year.
People are acting like these kids have no other way out. Well, who has a way out? Rich kids? So what? If you don't want to play football, and want to go to college, do what every other person has to do - get a job or another scholarship and pay for it.
I don't see why people are mad at the NCAA for taking advantage of something that the pro leagues created.
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I think you're letting a preconceived notion cloud your ability to listen to reason from someone who has been on both sides. Because of that, I'll address your argument piece by piece.
-As stated previously, I stated up front that my greyshirt semester wasn't a perfect example however I did experience a normal student life to some degree for a semester. That's a fact.
-The majority of my teammates did not have nice cars. Some did not have cars at all. You're choosing to base your entire opinion off of a representation of maybe 2% of the sample size and disregarding the rest. The ones that did have nice cars either had help from their parents or had help elsewhere. But that didn't apply to every single player. Thinking back through my 5 years of being there I can count about 10-15 that had nice cars out of the 200 guys(probably more than that) I played with give or take.
-You are correct that the scholarship guys had school paid for. So to some extent I would agree, that part is a luxury. However, you could make the same argument for students that had a full academic scholarship or students with parents that paid for everything would be the same luxury in this category. So this "good" and "easy" life in this category isn't stricken to just football players or college athletes.
-The stipend number you reference is a little high. When I was there, players that qualified for it (not everyone did, including me) got around 1k to maybe 2k in total per year. That's probably gone up a little bit since I was there but that's ballpark. So sure, you could consider that a luxury. But if you take the time to do some math, it's not all hunky dory as you think it is. Let's just say it's $2,500 per year to be fair. If you break it down by month, it comes out to $208.34. So if getting an extra $208 a month is your version of living the "easy" or "good" life I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
-Your follow up argument to the stipend is going to be something along the lines of "but football players get money for rent and on-campus food. That plus stipend is living the 'good' life". So I'll break that down for you. When I was there and lived off campus, I got around $400 per month at the start and around $600 per month by my senior year. The increase was due to cost of living. Not sure what rent prices are now but after rent and utilities, most of that was used up. I was fortunate enough to have parents to help me out if I wanted to go have a social life outside of football. You start to add in groceries and the occasional eating out or bar scene, things get tight quick. Yes we could eat on campus but to be honest, that got old quick. Some nights you just wanted to go to the Bin and have a pizza. Not every single night but it was nice to get away from that every now and then.
-You're completely wrong on athletes living an "easy" life. I'll break down just how "easy" a typical year is for a football player.
January through March are winter workouts. The weight room sessions last about 2 hours. Oh and you work out in the weight room 4-5 times a week. 2-3 nights a week are team agility workouts outdoors that usually last about 2 hours. Throw in a Wednesday stadium run and an extra early morning workout(due to your sub-team losing the competition events that week) here and there and you're up to around 20 hours week. If you're hurt and need treatment, throw another 5 hours a week in there. In between those 20-25 hours a week, you go to class which the typical course load is heavier to offset a lighter fall load. So usually 15 hours of courses. Depending on your GPA and seniority, throw in an extra 3-7 hours a week in mandatory study hall. I had one day where I woke up at 3:30 am for a 4 am workout because my sub-team lost that week. Worked out until 5:30 am. THEN I started my normal morning weight room workout at 5:45 am. Finished at 7:45 am to barely make my 8 am class. BTW they check your attendance in each class. Classes went from 8 am to 2 pm (throw in a little down time here in there). Afternoon agility workout started at 5pm and ended at 7pm. Eat dinner and go to study hall at 7:30 for an hour and half. Ended the day and got home at 9:30 pm. Then get up the next morning and do pretty much the same thing over again. Almost forgot, don't forget about a midnight workout thrown in here and there too.
Late March and most of April is spring practice. Less strenuous but a similar schedule. Workouts at 5:30 am. Class. Practice from 3 pm to 6 pm. Dinner. Study hall. Rinse and repeat. Saturday scrimmages. Sunday "off".
We had most of May off.
June and July were summer workouts. Workouts 4-5 times a week. 30 minutes for sprints followed immediately by an hour and a half weight room. It's usually hot outside when running sprints believe it or not. Couple that with running on the turf which increases the heat to around 120 (we had our team doctor take the temp). I could literally feel my cleats burn. My white kid stature could barely make the times to begin with. 3-4 team workouts per week in the afternoons. Throw in some more stadium runs. We typically ran the stadium twice in one session during the summer. Meaning the lower section, high section, run over to the other side same thing. Then do it all over again. Then you'd have "optional" position specific workouts that were usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays that last about an hour each. Usually have 2 extreme workouts in the summer where they'd bring in some ex-military dude and he'd torture us for a good 2 hours. I can't remember specifics on all runs but it'd typically be 16 half gassers at 17 seconds with about 45 seconds rest in between each. Our test we had to complete at the end of July were 300's. Goal line to 50, back to goal line, back to 50, back to goal line, back to 50, back to goal line in 52 seconds. 2 of those with about 1 minute and a half rest. Oh and don't forget going to summer classes. 1 to 2 classes per month. I did 2 per month to get my undergrad faster.
August is fall camp which is just straight up miserable. Not even going to lie or sugarcoat it. Of course when I finished, they decided to do away with two a days. Starting late July early August you report to camp and check in to the hotel. From early August to when school starts (around the 18th or 20th) it was football all day, everyday. Sure you'd have an "off" day here and there but you weren't really off. A typical fall camp day is 5 am wake up for breakfast. Head to the facility, watch film of yesterday's practice. Then watch film of what you're going to install in today's practice. Practice starts at 9 am. Ends around 11 am. Lunch. An hour nap. Film starts around 1:30 pm until practice starts again (if it was a two a day). Afternoon practice starts at 4 and ends at 6. Film from 6:30 to 7:30 or 8 (you'd eat supper during film). Get back to the hotel around 9 and go to bed and do it all over again the next day. A regular one practice day was similar except instead of the second practice, you worked out in the weight room and did a team walk through that night. Still got back to the hotel around 9 at night.
September - December/January. Season starts. You'd get one day off per week. All the other days are football football football. And of course class right? A normal day is 6 am workouts. Class until lunch. Come to facility at 1 if you're hurt and need treatment. If not arrive at facility at around 2 or 2:30. Film. Practice starts at 3. Ends around 5 or 6. Dinner. Study hall if you had it. Rinse and repeat. Labor day or school holiday? Refer back to the fall camp one a day schedule.
Bowl prep - unless we were playing in a big time bowl, bowl prep was not the most enjoyable. Looking back I think it was more of Mullen making it miserable. Which is why there were some bowls that we just flat out got slapped. The second gator bowl comes to mind. I wasn't playing anymore but my teammates told me he was even worse about the Orange bowl. We could've easily won that game but Mullen made it where all the players looked at that game as the only thing standing in between them and a break. Anywho while the students got to go home after finals, we were there prepping for whoever we were playing. Similar schedule to fall camp but not as strenuous. 4 days off for Christmas. We usually had to leave on Christmas day or the day after Christmas to go to the bowl sight.
That's it in a nutshell. Times 4 or 5 depending on how long you played.
So to quote you - "There’s nothing you can say that tells me they aren’t living an easier life in college and thereafter due to the advantages given to them while playing.", I would venture to guess you're the naive one in this case.
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
So to answer your question, here's my 2 cents. And it's worth what you paid for it.
I'd change the stipend and just add it to the monthly cost of living allowance. Here's what usually happened. The players that got the stipend would just blow it within a week or two. To some degree as a college kid at the time, I can't say that I wouldn't either. Maybe not all of it. Regardless, it isn't being used for what it's intended.
I'd adjust the cost of living calculation. They may already have. It was low when I was there. Reason I'm confident in that statement is because there is a lawsuit going on right now that will probably be won against the NCAA stating that the formula rendered too low of an allowance. I could potentially get almost $8,000 from it as many other players would too. It's called the Grant-In-Aid Settlement if you want to look it up.
It's hard to say from sport to sport. I think it could get political pretty quickly in terms of should everyone be paid the same vs a capitalistic approach. I'm not smart enough to figure that aspect of it out.
Just from a free market point of view (and I guess you could call it libertarian as well) I do think that if the sport generates revenue for the school, the athletes that made that happen deserve a cut of that. Now again I know there's a lot to go into that and I'm not arguing for or against any of it. That's just my 30,000 foot view/opinion of it.
Here's what I'd do to compensate the athletes. I'd have it where each athlete had a "retirement" or "pension" fund (whatever you want to call it) that is funded each year based on how much revenue of the respective sport the athlete participated in brought in. I'll leave the calculation up to smarter people. Could be a lot. Could be a little. Then each athlete is allowed access to that account upon their completion at the university. So if they leave early and go pro, they can access it, however it'd be a smaller sum. Or when their five years are up and they're done with the program, they can access it then and do whatever they want with it.
It's not a perfect system. I don't really want to debate it with anyone if we're being honest. I'm more or less just responding to your question as to what I think haha. Just my opinion.
Very interesting comments about the bowl prep. Nothing about the daily schedule surprises me at all. Big-time college sports is a full time job, plus being a college student. It's a tough life. Which is one big reason a few of my friend's children have turned down an athletic scholarship because they knew the education was more important long-term. I appreciate the work you and all our athletes put in.
Thanks sir. Yeah it's kind of sad about the bowl prep. I'm betting Coach Mo will have a better approach to it. It was very typical of Mullen to make it miserable when it should be a reward from the season. Now I don't think he should've taken Jackie's approach lol but there's somewhere in between.
I can agree with this but then you have to eliminate title 9 and pay all sports players based on on the market says they are worth.
Good luck with that.
Good luck with that.
I applaud this very entertaining and informative story. I really do. Gives you some insight to college players. However, my original point stands. Ask any regular joe who is sattled with around $30,000 in student debt, if not more, and see which deal they prefer. I know friends that are working 40 hours a week while in college and still are $40,000 in debt(which they also never get to see their families, friends, or have free time because they are having to always work). Also, stipends have gone up a little since you left my friend. MSU gave $5,156 per player in 2015. That was 3 years ago. No telling what it is now. We can agree to disagree on this whole, “good life” matter.
I don’t doubt being an athlete consumes time and effort, but they still enjoy college. I saw them enjoy it. I enjoyed it with a couple who are still close friends and live in Starkville.
My life as a “regular” student was harder than most regular students. I majored in Mechanical Engineering and not GBA or basket weaving.
Guess what? That was my choice just like it was your choice to play football.
Now there are two very DIFFERENT arguements being made in this thread.
1. Players are already paid but not enough. Well how abt this. Let’s pay them say $9/hr.(probably close to what the typical college job pays?). Let’s pay them for mandatory hrs. Let’s call it 60 hrs a week.
Let’s say it’s 40 weeks a year (it’s not).
Annually that comes to $25,200.
Fine. Let them pay there tuition, books, meals, room and board, etc. from that amount.
Seems pretty damn fair. Think working at a manufacturing plant that generates $20 million a year in revenue in the GTR area.
2. Players should share in revenue.
Ok that’s fine. Eliminate title 9 and pay Players across every sport what the market allows for that sport.
Seems pretty fair but SJWs will never allow that to happen. Ever.
My life as a “regular” student was harder than most regular students. I majored in Mechanical Engineering and not GBA or basket weaving.
Guess what? That was my choice just like it was your choice to play football.
Now there are two very DIFFERENT arguements being made in this thread.
1. Players are already paid but not enough. Well how abt this. Let’s pay them say $9/hr.(probably close to what the typical college job pays?). Let’s pay them for mandatory hrs. Let’s call it 60 hrs a week.
Let’s say it’s 40 weeks a year (it’s not).
Annually that comes to $25,200.
Fine. Let them pay there tuition, books, meals, room and board, etc. from that amount.
Seems pretty damn fair. Think working at a manufacturing plant that generates $20 million a year in revenue in the GTR area.
2. Players should share in revenue.
Ok that’s fine. Eliminate title 9 and pay Players across every sport what the market allows for that sport.
Seems pretty fair but SJWs will never allow that to happen. Ever.
Look I don’t doubt they put work and time in. Calling it the good life is probably wrong, but 90% or more would swap with them in a heartbeat.
Let’s look at it this way. Say a football player works 40 hrs a week for 30 weeks a year.
6 hrs a day Monday through Friday (3 for practice, 1.5 for work outs and 1 for meetings; that’s probably a little generous)
6 hrs for a game day
4 hrs for a Sunday
That’s 24 weeks August through January plus 6 weeks for spring. 30 weeks.
Now let’s say they work 24 hours a week for 20 weeks (offseason workouts etc).
40 x $15/hrs x 30 weeks = $18,000
24 x $15 x 20 weeks = $7,200
$25,200 annually times 5 years = $126,000
$15/hr is pretty stout for a college worker. Hell its stout for some manufacturing laborers in GTR area that make comparable revenue to MSU football.
Seems like they are being compensated fairly to me.
Let’s look at it this way. Say a football player works 40 hrs a week for 30 weeks a year.
6 hrs a day Monday through Friday (3 for practice, 1.5 for work outs and 1 for meetings; that’s probably a little generous)
6 hrs for a game day
4 hrs for a Sunday
That’s 24 weeks August through January plus 6 weeks for spring. 30 weeks.
Now let’s say they work 24 hours a week for 20 weeks (offseason workouts etc).
40 x $15/hrs x 30 weeks = $18,000
24 x $15 x 20 weeks = $7,200
$25,200 annually times 5 years = $126,000
$15/hr is pretty stout for a college worker. Hell its stout for some manufacturing laborers in GTR area that make comparable revenue to MSU football.
Seems like they are being compensated fairly to me.