Pac 12 revolt?
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national champion, college graduate and multi-millionaire Cardale Jones had his priorities straight
covid-19: 'but, muh freedoms!'
labor disputes: 'players are greedy!'
these views are, to be kind, inconsistent.
I can understand the Covid testing. Don't understand the 6 year insurance demand. I believe, however, you can't give football players benefits like that unless the school gives the very same benefit to the entire student body. And not sure what other demands are being made.
If they sit out and refuse to play football, then their scholarships ought to be paused as well IMO.
If they sit out and refuse to play football, then their scholarships ought to be paused as well IMO.
Exactly. I guarantee the school wants what the players want in regards to Covid, 6 years insurance? Total morons.
Even the almighty SEC has said they will honor scholarships of athletes sitting out the COVID.
These kids are just doing it en masse and wanting to use that to get additional concessions.
I haven't seen him talk about a source, I assume he's well connected.
I don't think they'll actually get anything extra. But it might be a domino if the Pac12 loses the ability to start a season.
the ball has been rolling on college football players' right to collectively bargain for more than a decade now. it has not lost steam, and will occur in the near future.
those opposed have zero good reason for their stance other than 'it's an amateur sport' (LOL) and 'free school is enough' (LOL).
those opposed have zero good reason for their stance other than 'it's an amateur sport' (LOL) and 'free school is enough' (LOL).
If there was any doubt that the death of every FBS conference outside the P5 was on its way, this should clear it right up. Only question is whether the also-rans of the FBS end up in the FCS or if they end up in still another division.
NU should embrace these changes with both arms like they have with name, image, and likeness. Nebraska can afford to pay players and has the fan attention to make them money. A lot of schools don't.
NU should embrace these changes with both arms like they have with name, image, and likeness. Nebraska can afford to pay players and has the fan attention to make them money. A lot of schools don't.
I agree with you. This may not amount to anything right now, but I can’t criticize anyone for trying to get better compensation. Funny how people can insist that it was absolutely urgent that Moos slide down the chimney with an extra $10 mil for Scott Frost, but wring their hands about the demise of amateur athletics if players get something more.
I saw Jeff Garcia hand off to Ahman Green in Rosenblatt, on a very cold night game once. Couldn't believe Garcia wasn't in the NFL somewhere.
yep. the same people who don't want the gov to tell them what to do insist on backing other governing bodies (the ncaa, in this case) dictating what players can and can't do.
the irony is rich.
Looks like the end of college football, the nfl needs to create a farm system like baseball and just draft these kids out of high school. The very least pull there scholarships
Well it's not the starting football players who get screwed in that scenario, it's the reserves and the kids on non-revenue sports who can't have scholarships if you pay the football players what they're worth.
I can see where it sounds like BS to tell a dude like Joe Burrow or Clemson's QB that he's only worth a scholarship and some food and clothes and a dorm room. Yeah, those guys' value on an open market is big. Somewhere there are a bunch of dudes at some directional tech who are like, "Whooooooa slow down, I can't afford an education without my football scholarship."
I don't have the slightest idea how you figure out what to play a given player at a given school. The questions outnumber the answers by miles.
And there are entire sports teams that will vanish if CFB and men's basketball become professional sports.
there have been tons of studies done on this. in fact, it's a pretty simple formula.
and acting like paying players takes away from colleges is, of course, reductionist thinking. there isn't some finite pool of money from which these dollars are born.
I follow this pretty closely, and have yet to see one athlete, from any sport, speak out against it. there are a lot of volleyball players, softball players and gymnasts who stand to make a lot of money the second they're allowed to.
his sentiments were, and still are, correct. pretending to care about a football players' academic standing is ridiculous.
I guarantee each team can find 85 kids that will take a full ride scholarship and the opportunity to play D1 ball. These guys can boycott all they want. They arent getting what they ask for.
Well sitting out just for Covid reasons is one thing. But demanding 6 years of insurance coverage post graduation is a different animal, that's not Covid related. As I said, those kind of benefits would have to given to all students.
why is it your avatar is of our 5 national titles and not our record number of academic all-americans?
lol
Count me as doubtful on that. NU is a rare case with a profitable VB program. Most lose money and are supported by men's revenue sports. Typically football and/or basketball.
So there again if I'm NUVB, hell yeah let's pay volleyball players. We'll be one of the only schools that can, we'll have pick of the litter.
I'd suggest a quick google of what pro softball players make. It won't make you want to try out.
it's not the schools who'd pay them, just like it's not the schools who clothe them. that misconception is the basis of your argument.
the pie simply grows, with more ingredients added. it doesn't all of a sudden get whacked up into a million different little slices.
A sponsor will spend what they feel gets them ROI. At the end of the day it still comes down to eyeballs, Easton isn't going to print money for softball players nobody watches because now it's individuals and not teams.
Look to the WNBA as your case study. They make totally mediocre money at the apex of their sport because attendance and viewership are bad.
I suggest you look at USA Today rankings of college athletic departments latest financials. The number that stood out to me was donations. Nebraska's is treating down the past three years. It was down from $26 million to $16 million the last year. Paying athletes will change things pretty quick. If other teams can't, there is no competition. No competition, no fan interest. No games. Slippery slope.
could you have some type of performance based financial package
all conference
all american
national player of the year
etc
some amount is paid out by school based on post collegiate success
% of rookie contract for pro sport- it can be small - a smaller % if you leave early
pay if you
make a national team
world medalist in olympic sport - in exchange for PR work for the school
conference payouts could offset this amount - schools with higher achieving athletes get a higher payout to offset these payments such that each school still ends up with the same amount at the end of the day
all conference
all american
national player of the year
etc
some amount is paid out by school based on post collegiate success
% of rookie contract for pro sport- it can be small - a smaller % if you leave early
pay if you
make a national team
world medalist in olympic sport - in exchange for PR work for the school
conference payouts could offset this amount - schools with higher achieving athletes get a higher payout to offset these payments such that each school still ends up with the same amount at the end of the day
team/school sponsorship gets ROI, just as it's done for decades. this is an earmark.
scholarship athletes already receive a monthly stipend.
'totally mediocre money' > quite literally no money.
you're only looking at base salary. real earnings potential lies outside of those parameters for most athletes, specifically female athletes, on social media and elsewhere.
I wouldn't do that to anyone during these challenging times, especially one that eats a lot of Breckfast.
If politicians were smart, they would legalize weed at the national level right now.
Everybody needs to chill out, just imagine if pot was legal and you got your govt stimulus and a playstation.. you will be good for 6 months right?
Everybody needs to chill out, just imagine if pot was legal and you got your govt stimulus and a playstation.. you will be good for 6 months right?
Speculation is Trump will pardon all weed possession inmates. It would be a great move on his part IMO