P5 coaches

[mildone_rivals]

is RU willing to put up the $8mil(approximately) annually to pay a get and go staff?

I wouldn't have thought it possible... until RU fired a coach mid-season. They didn't even fire Flood mid-season after his off-field scandal.

Not sure what's changed, but hopefully RU has realized that being in the Big Ten is a great opportunity that we are squandering by not investing in building highly competitive football and basketball programs.

 

[RUScrew85]

Zero of those coaches will consider RU... I would really go after Matt Rhule who may have some level of interest.

Didn't Matt Ruhl just sing an extension yesterday?

 

[eyebugs]

when you wake up from your weekend bender you will learn that he literally just signed an extension.
Love this board, people who don't really follow coaching or coaching changes definitively stating who is and isn't interested.
I need to remind myself before I post that coaching changes bring out all the troll accounts

At least I am sober now. You try to make folks think you are source of all things RU, Truth is none of those coaches would come to RU and your reasoning that they might is comical. No sitting P5 coach would take a step down to coach now at RU. It is the worst P5 program stuck in a division with three heavyweights. If Rhule didn't sign his extension I thought he might be the only one.. Should seriously take a look at the ARMY coach maybe he would consider the job. Personally I think he would do well. Not a fan of a redo with GS and think RU should look elsewhere.

 

[RUScrew85]

Rutgers needs to name the new HC quickly to secure this years recruiting class.

Most football recruits now sign binding letters during the early signing period in December.

Some schools are probably contacting some of Rutgers top recruits.

Slim pickings during the February signing period.

Keeping a class without a named HC will be tough to keep the class.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Based on coach Ash's recruiting history I'm not sure we need to worry about recruited talent moving on.

 

[mildone_rivals]

I think so. I don’t think schiano is as good a recruiter as people want to believe but he will get solid, tough kids.

I think he will too, but not right away. However I do think he'll get the best out of what players we do get. 2006 doesn't happen without some decent OL and DL play and it's not like we were two deep in NFL talent on the lines.

So while I beat up on GS a lot, I think he was good at developing and motivating most players. Not all, as his doghouse showed. But most.

 

[vkj91]

At least I am sober now. You try to make folks think you are source of all things RU, Truth is none of those coaches would come to RU and your reasoning that they might is comical. No sitting P5 coach would take a step down to coach now at RU. It is the worst P5 program stuck in a division with three heavyweights. If Rhule didn't sign his extension I thought he might be the only one.. Should seriously take a look at the ARMY coach maybe he would consider the job. Personally I think he would do well. Not a fan of a redo with GS and think RU should look elsewhere.

I guess you don’t read all that well. I never said they would. I said the belief is the school wants a P5 coach. I made a list of P5 coaches that if “you do enough mental gymnastics” you could convince yourself they’d come here. Simple as that. Again, you are just a troll. RU is not the worst P5 job or program just based on facilities and recruiting area along.

 

[RUScrew85]

The money's not there. Not that kind of money. His current contract is worth about 3.5MM a year. In Ames, Iowa. Tack on the 2.5MM to pay Chris Ash. Tack on at least 1.5MM to pay McNulty and the other coaches. Tack on the 6MM buyout spread over 5 years. So that's at least 9MM a year. RU will not pony up that kind of cash.

The school isn't paying all of that. 3 or 4 big donors have really stepped up for this.

 

[ru1869]

I think the only realistic candidate on that list is Narduzzi. He’s a good solid coach and he’d probably like the stability of a nice 5 year deal.

We can say what we want but the Boat Rower is getting it done in Minny

He doesn’t want it.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

BTW, Dykes is 5-0 at SMU and they are now ranked. Dykes did not want to be at Cal. He was caught interviewing once or twice and they decided to can him.

As I said on Saturday first time since 1983 they've been 5-0. I think he cycled through a bunch of DCs too and I think that was probably part of the issue as well. Regardless Leach tree guy knows offense. :Wink: Unnamed RU HC please look in this direction LOL.

 

[mildone_rivals]

He doesn’t want it.

This is Jersey. If we really want him, then we send a guy to make him an offer he can't refuse.

 

[BoroKnight]

Most people don't deal in reality. The same people that are obsessed with all the "success" Schiano had here will poo poo a coach like Charlie Strong who they will say only had success because he landed Teddy Bridgewater. The same can be said that the legend of Greg Schiano would never come to be without one single recruit, Ray Rice.

Outside of the the Ray Rice years nobody would have given a **** about Schiano as a coach.

The only truly good year Schiano had here was because Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni. End of story

That being said, what he did do that seemed pedestrian (post 2006) would be a godsend now. The schedule is tougher now, even if we have the three cupcakes in the nonconference he was used to playing. But HE'S WILLING TO TAKE THE JOB. You cannot stress how undesirable this job is. Step out from your vacuum and look at Rutgers the way the rest of the country does: Big Ten in name only, as CBS Sports put it. We will have to grossly overpay for anybody with even a shred of the resume most of you want. And that puts us right back in the same mode as last year's offseason.

I am not a huge Schiano fan in the sense that I don't think he walked on water, but building the program to respectability was a remarkable achievement. And while today's recruits don't remember any of that, their coaches do. Almost as important, he's the only guy that will get some of the ticket buyers back. And almost as important as that, I don't trust this group to do a coaching search. Hiring Schiano removes that horror.

 

[Jtung230]

GS can sell. He'll sell that he did once and can do it again. He'll sell the connection to the Pats, OSU and the past players in the NFL. We need someone who can sell the vision and excitement.

 

[yesrutgers01]

At least I am sober now. You try to make folks think you are source of all things RU, Truth is none of those coaches would come to RU and your reasoning that they might is comical. No sitting P5 coach would take a step down to coach now at RU. It is the worst P5 program stuck in a division with three heavyweights. If Rhule didn't sign his extension I thought he might be the only one.. Should seriously take a look at the ARMY coach maybe he would consider the job. Personally I think he would do well. Not a fan of a redo with GS and think RU should look elsewhere.

I don’t think VK tried to be the source of all things RZu but put together a list to create some conversation. Kinda think it’s a great idea as many, like myself, never would have done so on my own.
I think there has been good discussion so far.
As for Army coach- we may even win 4-5 games but please remove my eyes with a fork first please.
And I can’t see a single NJ HS coach that would send a star offensive player here to be in that offense. Take a look at NJ kids in the NFL or that have been top college stars, we need to adapt an offense that would be perfect for the talent here.
And you will never win over a fickle NYC/NJ fan base with no ties to Rutgers with that offense.

 

[RUScrew85]

This is Jersey. If we really want him, then we send a guy to make him an offer he can't refuse.

Either ya signature or yous brains gonna be on this here contract.

 

[RUScrew85]

The only truly good year Schiano had here was because Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni. End of story

That being said, what he did do that seemed pedestrian (post 2006) would be a godsend now. The schedule is tougher now, even if we have the three cupcakes in the nonconference he was used to playing. But HE'S WILLING TO TAKE THE JOB. You cannot stress how undesirable this job is. Step out from your vacuum and look at Rutgers the way the rest of the country does: Big Ten in name only, as CBS Sports put it. We will have to grossly overpay for anybody with even a shred of the resume most of you want. And that puts us right back in the same mode as last year's offseason.

I am not a huge Schiano fan in the sense that I don't think he walked on water, but building the program to respectability was a remarkable achievement. And while today's recruits don't remember any of that, their coaches do. Almost as important, he's the only guy that will get some of the ticket buyers back. And almost as important as that, I don't trust this group to do a coaching search. Hiring Schiano removes that horror.

I wish I could Like this twice.

 

[scarletrat]

IMO, I think Hobbs will prioritize having local or at least NE ties and connections, someone who understands the local scene, and may have coached here in some capacity. This is based on (1) his hires in other sports, all of whom were HCs or assistants at programs in the NE, and (2) learnings from the Ash error.

This leads me to, of course, Schiano, and Moorhead. If it is Schiano, you hire him prior to season's end, maybe the week of the next bye week in early Nov, to avoid it being more of a distraction than it would be...and so he can start to recruit...and at that time you are playing out the string. If you want to look into Moorhead, you wait...

I'll support Schiano, as I was very bummed when he left here in 2011 as I thought we finally had things rolling and set up well for the future, but I hope he sacrifices some salary to invest in bringing in excellent OC/DC (maybe Hafley can be fulltime DC and assistant HC).

 

[RUChoppin]

This hire means Hobbs' career. ADs usually don't get forgiven for making a bad football hire, but they certainly don't get forgiven twice.

 

[rucoe89]

Either in Virginia. And with a good recruiter recruiting isn’t challenging here. Those are BS lies this board buys into. There is not one person on Virginia’s roster that is above what we can recruit here

Recruiting isn't challenging at Rutgers? Even Schiano took 12 years to get a really top class. Its not anyone's false narrative, it is reflecting on history. That said, maybe it will change and hopefully it will. But that person will have to get over the that perception mountain.

 

[OriginalKnight]

Pretty much every outlet is stating that the next HC will have HC experience and the powers that be would prefer P5 experience. Personally, I think this is dumb because P5 guys rarely ever move and that leaves Schiano or Jones. That being said, I made a list of P5 guys who if you tried really hard, you could argue would see the Rutgers job as a better opportunity. End of the day, B1G East is top 2 divisions in the country. Some guys want that challenge, some guys might just need a change of scenery, others might want more money and a long guarantee. (I'm not searching for buyouts right now, so a few of these could be dead before we even call)
In no order:
Babers: Cuse is hard to recruit to, it will always be a basketball school, and the weather sucks
Doeren: Will always be little brother to UNC. Already recruits NJ
Narduzzi: has been discussed at length for 3 years
Campbell: B1G ten region guy who can just flat out coach.
Fleck: he doesn't want to be in Minnesota. Enjoyed his time at RU and as much as I don't like him, he wins
Kyle Wittingham: we have zero shot but to me, he's top 5 coaches in the country.
Mel Tucker: not even one year as a HC but he checks a lot of boxes and is a B1G guy
Moorehead: my understanding is he loves it at MSU but he has the Northeast ties.

This thread is really about you not liking Schiano. Why is that?

 

[OriginalKnight]

Greg's 11 year regular season stint at Rutgers was 68-67.

Not saying he is a bad coach.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

You really are clueless Jack. Do you think that record really reflects the job that he did? Stick to Porn Stache and your own team.

 

[vkj91]

This thread is really about you not liking Schiano. Why is that?

Please point to me where in this thread I'm shown to not like Schiano. I know it seems crazy to discuss anyone not named Schiano for most of you, but that's just silly. Especially, since most of you will be disappointed when he isn't hired.

 

[OriginalKnight]

Please point to me where in this thread I'm shown to not like Schiano. I know it seems crazy to discuss anyone not named Schiano for most of you, but that's just silly. Especially, since most of you will be disappointed when he isn't hired.

How do you know he won’t be hired?

 

[vkj91]

How do you know he won’t be hired?

I don't know he won't be, nobody knows for sure. I just know what I'm hearing.

 

[bitnez]

Based on the presser today I didn’t get the sense that it’s Schiano. Hobbs specifically said the plan is to name the coach after the season. I get that it can mean different things but if he was eyeing Schiano he would’ve left the door open to bring someone in sooner rather than later

 

[Hubcityknights]

The 150th anniversary bye week would be a great time to announce the return of the most celebrated head coach in Rutgers football history opcorn:

 

[DirtyRU]

Fun exercise. Look at Schiano as a coach... Ex-OSU DC, Ex-NFL HC, Ex-U DC... and pretend like he NEVER coached at RU. Ignore that portion of his résumé. Just focus on OSU, Bucs and Miami. And the fact that he's OG from NJ and currently unemployed after stepping down from an offer to be the Pats DC. Now tell me... does he make a good candidate for this search?

 

[Laurentdalmeida]

First of all the person who said fleck doesn't want to be in Minnesota is a liar. He has to stay in midwestern area due to custody issues with his ex. Second, he's at 4 mil right now, easy conference, beating the Alabama, Clemson, & Georgia of the world for recruits, & gotten extension each year. Yeah he isn't leaving Minnesota anytime soon

 

[vkj91]

First of all the person who said fleck doesn't want to be in Minnesota is a liar. He has to stay in midwestern area due to custody issues with his ex. Second, he's at 4 mil right now, easy conference, beating the Alabama, Clemson, & Georgia of the world for recruits, & gotten extension each year. Yeah he isn't leaving Minnesota anytime soon

Nobody wants to be in Minnesota. It's not just a Fleck thing. Besides from NJ its like 2.5 hours to fly to St Louis. Also, another troll. 8 posts all about Fleck

 

[TODDB33]

The 150th anniversary bye week would be a great time to announce the return of the most celebrated head coach in Rutgers football history opcorn:

I think Bateman padded away

 

[Anon1654767511]

There are around 250 head coaches who after leaving the school they coached came back to coach that school again. In the modern era you can count on one hand those at P5 schools that lasted 4 years or more after they returned and only one who I would characterize as being extremely successful that being Bill Snyder at K State. Accordingly, the odds don't favor Schiano being another Bill Snyder should he return. Just saying.

 

[Laurentdalmeida]

Nobody wants to be in Minnesota. It's not just a Fleck thing. Besides from NJ its like 2.5 hours to fly to St Louis. Also, another troll. 8 posts all about Fleck

Literally this is a custody issues with fleck & due to him wanting to see his kids, he has to be in midwestern. Literally fleck loves Minnesota & say he doesn't want to leave.


Yeah it's funny Rutgers fans think they know what fleck wants. Fleck literally stated he rather have a job on midwest to be close to his kids with his 1st wife. 2nd, no reason he would leave when Minnesota is prepared to pay him close to 6mil or more per season after this season. People like you who have never been to Minnesota would be ignorant about how amazing its

 

[OriginalKnight]

Literally this is a custody issues with fleck & due to him wanting to see his kids, he has to be in midwestern. Literally fleck loves Minnesota & say he doesn't want to leave.


Yeah it's funny Rutgers fans think they know what fleck wants. Fleck literally stated he rather have a job on midwest to be close to his kids with his 1st wife. 2nd, no reason he would leave when Minnesota is prepared to pay him close to 6mil or more per season after this season. People like you who have never been to Minnesota would be ignorant about how amazing its

It’s Siberia. No thanks. Nobody chooses to live in Minnesota. You’re born there and don’t know any better.

 

[bigmatt718]

Literally this is a custody issues with fleck & due to him wanting to see his kids, he has to be in midwestern. Literally fleck loves Minnesota & say he doesn't want to leave.


Yeah it's funny Rutgers fans think they know what fleck wants. Fleck literally stated he rather have a job on midwest to be close to his kids with his 1st wife. 2nd, no reason he would leave when Minnesota is prepared to pay him close to 6mil or more per season after this season. People like you who have never been to Minnesota would be ignorant about how amazing its

I'm sure it's nice...8 months of the year. The winters though, I'll pass.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Literally this is a custody issues with fleck & due to him wanting to see his kids, he has to be in midwestern. Literally fleck loves Minnesota & say he doesn't want to leave.


Yeah it's funny Rutgers fans think they know what fleck wants. Fleck literally stated he rather have a job on midwest to be close to his kids with his 1st wife. 2nd, no reason he would leave when Minnesota is prepared to pay him close to 6mil or more per season after this season. People like you who have never been to Minnesota would be ignorant about how amazing its

Well, to play devils advocate, what would you expect he would say to a bunch of people from Minnesota? He's not an idiot.

 

[vkj91]

Literally this is a custody issues with fleck & due to him wanting to see his kids, he has to be in midwestern. Literally fleck loves Minnesota & say he doesn't want to leave.


Yeah it's funny Rutgers fans think they know what fleck wants. Fleck literally stated he rather have a job on midwest to be close to his kids with his 1st wife. 2nd, no reason he would leave when Minnesota is prepared to pay him close to 6mil or more per season after this season. People like you who have never been to Minnesota would be ignorant about how amazing its

I lived in the Midwest for 4 years and spent plenty of time in Minnesota.

 

[Laurentdalmeida]

Well, to play devils advocate, what would you expect he would say to a bunch of people from Minnesota? He's not an idiot.

He also isn't an idiot to turn down 6-6.5 million dollar a year after this season which just has to be approved and for him to sign.

People are also forgetting a judge has got to approve or make changes in his custody case. As it's, he doesn't get to barely if at all get to see his kids with his first wife due to custody issues and his ex wife having kids go to school near her.

Minnesota is amazing . The cold can suck during winter but one gets use to it. It's one of the biggest sports and events towns. Fleck win over badgers already got him a contract extension & loved in Minnesota, so even a school wanting him will have to pay up.

 

[RUbanks]

First of all the person who said fleck doesn't want to be in Minnesota is a liar. He has to stay in midwestern area due to custody issues with his ex. Second, he's at 4 mil right now, easy conference, beating the Alabama, Clemson, & Georgia of the world for recruits, & gotten extension each year. Yeah he isn't leaving Minnesota anytime soon

Not sure what's funnier, you saying Fleck is outrecruiting Alabama, Clemson, and Georgia, or that people actually want to live in Minnesota.

 

[Knight Shift]

This hire means Hobbs' career. ADs usually don't get forgiven for making a bad football hire, but they certainly don't get forgiven twice.

Hobbs will be 62 (almost 63) when this hire plays out. Probably will be ready to retire, unless he is on the Barry Alvarez plan.

 

[czxqa]

We should've already talked to Babers, Campbell and Fleck. I've mentioned the first 2 on here since Oct/Nov 2015, as I wanted offensive guys.

Babers wouldn't give us the time of day last time around. Doubt he would have changed his mind since then.

 

[Knight Shift]

Nobody wants to be in Minnesota. It's not just a Fleck thing. Besides from NJ its like 2.5 hours to fly to St Louis. Also, another troll. 8 posts all about Fleck