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Two games in a row that opposition coaches made game plan adjustments during halftime for which we had no answer.

I was unable to follow Gonzaga game, but listened to WRSU (and followed ESPN stats simultaneously) for Drake. Drake seemed to switch to zone for the second half on defense and isolated two specific shooters on offense ... and killed us.
 

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What would you adjust when there is a lid on the basket? RU did get to the FT line a few times but only shot 50% in the Drake game. Did Gonzaga play zone in the second half? Need to be able to handle that--hitting threes would help break zone.

Guirantes seems to have a green light but has gone cold the last game and a half. Pelc could use an improved handle. Two games with too many turnovers overall for team.

Carey played well in the Drake game, and Harris played well in the Gonzaga game. We have scorers but need consistency.
 

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Cvs doesnt make in game adjustments. .have you watched how many games they have imploded over the years
Shhhhhh, can't ever criticize our HOF Coach on this board, you'll be branded. And, not in a good way. But, I get a kick how people here make excuses why we lose, the zone, basket had a lid, poor shooting, bad at the free throw line, the opposing team wore pink, it was snowing outside. But, never our coaches fault, because she has won over 1000 games, in women's basketball as a coach. That's up there with being an all star at field hockey. LOL! Sorry, I know the board hates me. Oh well....just the facts mam. I'll leave now.
 

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Shhhhhh, can't ever criticize our HOF Coach on this board, you'll be branded. And, not in a good way. But, I get a kick how people here make excuses why we lose, the zone, basket had a lid, poor shooting, bad at the free throw line, the opposing team wore pink, it was snowing outside. But, never our coaches fault, because she has won over 1000 games, in women's basketball as a coach. That's up there with being an all star at field hockey. LOL! Sorry, I know the board hates me. Oh well....just the facts mam. I'll leave now.
You forgot the poor/bias officiating.
 
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Cvs doesnt make in game adjustments. .have you watched how many games they have imploded over the years


Which years? The ones where RU went to the FF, EE, or SS?

It is extremely disappointing and even heartbreaking at times to watch or listen to what seems like a well earned and certain victory become a defeat. Do you have statistical evidence to suggest that this situation occurs more frequently at RU than all other programs? Please provide it. Thank you.
 
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Which years? The ones where RU went to the FF, EE, or SS?

It is extremely disappointing and even heartbreaking at times to watch or listen to what seems like a well earned and certain victory become a defeat. Do you have statistical evidence to suggest that this situation occurs more frequently at RU than all other programs? Please provide it. Thank you.



thats like 10 years ago or more isn't it

but for recent evidence there were implosions in recent years late in the regular season vs Michigan State in one year and Iowa last year, both at the RAC where RU was in control had a sizable lead late in the game only to blow them and likely lose their NCAA bid. Also see the Purdue game in B10 tourney where RU played excellent up like 10 with a few minutes only to barely escape a last second miss and advance..ditto for a huge lead vs Minnesota last year at the RAC and only held because Minny player blew a layup.
 
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thats like 10 years ago or more isn't it

but for recent evidence there were implosions in recent years late in the regular season vs Michigan State in one year and Iowa last year, both at the RAC where RU was in control had a sizable lead late in the game only to blow them and likely lose their NCAA bid. Also see the Purdue game in B10 tourney where RU played excellent up like 10 with a few minutes only to barely escape a last second miss and advance..ditto for a huge lead vs Minnesota last year at the RAC and only held because Minny player blew a layup.

I did not ask for examples--we all know they happen. I asked for evidence that these losses occur with RU more than all other programs?

Perhaps you will consider presenting your credentials to the AD and request that you be added to the WBB coaching staff? I am sure they would benefit greatly from your insights and recommendations.
 

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Bad move to play in Vancouver

Where would you have sent the team? RU played in the same tournament as the last two national champions. That seems like pretty good company to me. They lost to two good teams who won their conferences last year and made the NCAA tournament. Perhaps those games were a pretty good barometer of where the Scarlet Knights need to be?
 
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thats like 10 years ago or more isn't it

but for recent evidence there were implosions in recent years late in the regular season vs Michigan State in one year and Iowa last year, both at the RAC where RU was in control had a sizable lead late in the game only to blow them and likely lose their NCAA bid. Also see the Purdue game in B10 tourney where RU played excellent up like 10 with a few minutes only to barely escape a last second miss and advance..ditto for a huge lead vs Minnesota last year at the RAC and only held because Minny player blew a layup.
I would never list in-game adjustments as a CVS strong-point. She does make them, but we have rarely played a significantly different game in the 2nd half than in the 1st.

I have always felt CVS strong points are - recruiting / game preparation / defense and the less strong parts of her game offense and a tendency for players to foul due to the style of defense. Individual games turn on the intensity of the team (which has been extremely inconsistent in recent years) and execution, as well as the effectiveness of her defense.
 

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agree....CVS does excellent game prep and game plan. She knows and studies everything. That she is one of the best in the business...however it seems like when things go south, she sort of is weak at throwing her players a lifeline to calm them
 

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agree....CVS does excellent game prep and game plan. She knows and studies everything. That she is one of the best in the business...however it seems like when things go south, she sort of is weak at throwing her players a lifeline to calm them


This is a good post without hyperbolic bashing and vitriol-baiting. And I agree with the sentiments expressed. I recall asking in a previous season if the team used a sports psychologist--might have been the season of 900 wins that took about four games too long to achieve. I remind everyone that this program has gone through a lot of either unexpected or untimely emotional turmoil and uncertainty in the last 10 years beyond unfortunate injuries all programs face: the after-effects of the Imus situation; the death of a starter´s mother; heart conditions in two starters requiring surgical repairs; the situation in the Athletic Department with revolving ADs, scandal, and no contract certainty for CVS; the death of the head coach´s mother. My speculation about last season was the possibility of 1000 wins looming.
 

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Where would you have sent the team? RU played in the same tournament as the last two national champions. That seems like pretty good company to me. They lost to two good teams who won their conferences last year and made the NCAA tournament. Perhaps those games were a pretty good barometer of where the Scarlet Knights need to be?
I responded in another thread (Stony Brook beats Penn St) that Stony Brook is 4-1 with our game being their only loss.

Andour 2 losses were to teams who have lost only 1 game each to #1 Notre Dame. And Drake beat Sourh Carolina. It doesn’t make our losses any better. But that’s some pretty good competition.

The goal is to get better to be ready for the conference schedule.
 
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Two games in a row that opposition coaches made game plan adjustments during halftime for which we had no answer.

I was unable to follow Gonzaga game, but listened to WRSU (and followed ESPN stats simultaneously) for Drake. Drake seemed to switch to zone for the second half on defense and isolated two specific shooters on offense ... and killed us.
Don't look now but Drake beat #15 South Carolina, and has jumped into the top 20.
 

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Shhhhhh, can't ever criticize our HOF Coach on this board, you'll be branded. And, not in a good way. But, I get a kick how people here make excuses why we lose, the zone, basket had a lid, poor shooting, bad at the free throw line, the opposing team wore pink, it was snowing outside. But, never our coaches fault, because she has won over 1000 games, in women's basketball as a coach. That's up there with being an all star at field hockey. LOL! Sorry, I know the board hates me. Oh well....just the facts mam. I'll leave now.
Why do you always seem to behave like a toddler looking for negative attention?
 
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Why do you always seem to behave like a toddler looking for negative attention?
I sometimes I talk down to the base. Sorry, just thought you and people like you(homers)would understand better. My bad. I'll try to do better, but please tell me when something goes over your head. lol
 

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I did not ask for examples--we all know they happen. I asked for evidence that these losses occur with RU more than all other programs?

Perhaps you will consider presenting your credentials to the AD and request that you be added to the WBB coaching staff? I am sure they would benefit greatly from your insights and recommendations.
Boy, you really thing this "coaching staff" is something special. Especially, with Stringer at it's head. Wow, I thought you people were reverent, only because it's Rutgers, but now I see that you really believe the rhetoric. Let me put it in perspective for you, IT'S WOMEN'S BASKETBALL! The only reason there are not more men coaches, is because it's embarrassing to put on a resume 'Head Womens Basketball Coach, at where ever college." Nobody cares, except you and people like you.
So, to answer the question you left for the other poster, NO, a resounding NO! No real man would ever want to coach a womens basketball team! I would rather coach a youth league(boys), than be a major college womens basketball coach. But, I will say this, it's no mistake that the best Women's College Basketball Coach is a Man. Just the facts mam!
 

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The 3 teams we lost to have a combined record of 22-2, for what it’s worth. I’ve seen the team play in all of its home games so far and I think we have all the pieces to be a very good team this year. I believe all of our players will be available for the LSU game. We’ll see what happens.
 
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Boy, you really thing this "coaching staff" is something special. Especially, with Stringer at it's head. Wow, I thought you people were reverent, only because it's Rutgers, but now I see that you really believe the rhetoric. Let me put it in perspective for you, IT'S WOMEN'S BASKETBALL! The only reason there are not more men coaches, is because it's embarrassing to put on a resume 'Head Womens Basketball Coach, at where ever college." Nobody cares, except you and people like you.
So, to answer the question you left for the other poster, NO, a resounding NO! No real man would ever want to coach a womens basketball team! I would rather coach a youth league(boys), than be a major college womens basketball coach. But, I will say this, it's no mistake that the best Women's College Basketball Coach is a Man. Just the facts mam!
Just curious, what are you doing on this board? If you don't respect the sport, do us a favor and stay away.
 

MADHAT1

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Looking at College WBB and Head Coaches
Some good ones over the years ( enjoying retirement or passed way) and some still in the game and HOF material in anyone's book.
Also would be HOF material if coached a MBB program, because they're that good.
Tara VanDerveer
Pat Summitt.
Sylvia Hatchell
C. Vivian Stringer
Jody Conradt
Kay Yow
Sue Gunter
Muffet McGraw
There are far more and some just beining their road to greatness.
We must remember thimes have changed and women can do the same great coiaching jobs men usually get credited for.

Women always have been able to coach basketball great, but it was hard ( still for some) to get men to admit Women are equally adapt at being a good, possible great, basketball coaches.
 

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Two games in a row that opposition coaches made game plan adjustments during halftime for which we had no answer.

I was unable to follow Gonzaga game, but listened to WRSU (and followed ESPN stats simultaneously) for Drake. Drake seemed to switch to zone for the second half on defense and isolated two specific shooters on offense ... and killed us.


We’re not good and the game has LONG flown by Coach. I’dsay there is very little chance that this team is the postseason
 
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Just curious, what are you doing on this board? If you don't respect the sport, do us a favor and stay away.
Because, my curiosity is constantly nagging at me, asking why you and people like do. But, I guess those that can't think any one who can dribble a basketball without tripping, at ANY level, must be special. Oh well, your right to each his own. So, here's my promise I won't come on here anymore, while those here pretend this actually is a sport with decent athletes/basketball players and worth watching. lol Chow.......