Our three losses...

FordhamBulldog

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Oct 19, 2018
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.
 
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.
Don’t be bringing no LOGIC to this board bro
 

msstate7

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Nov 27, 2008
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If we were doing anything that resembles a real offense, I'd feel better. When did McE at Florida forget to coach? He won natty at bama, won at CSU, but his offense was abysmal at Florida
 

QuaoarsKing

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Mar 11, 2008
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After all this, we're 13th in the FPI and 16th in the Sagarin.

I'm frustrated like everyone else, but if we win over Texas A&M, we probably finish 9-4 and ranked and everyone outside of our fanbase thinks Joe had a good first year.
 

msstate7

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Nov 27, 2008
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After all this, we're 13th in the FPI and 16th in the Sagarin.

I'm frustrated like everyone else, but if we win over Texas A&M, we probably finish 9-4 and ranked and everyone outside of our fanbase thinks Joe had a good first year.

I will gladly eat crow if that happens.
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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We have a defense worthy of a NC and an offense that is as inept as I've ever seen at State and that's saying a lot. We've been competitive and have these little meaningless power rankings because of shear talent alone.... the type talent that has never been a given at dear old MSU. I'm afraid the light at the end of this tunnel is a train. We'll see as the years go by.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Aug 25, 2014
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going to be ugly when most of those guys are gone to the nfl next year, shoop bails, and Moorhead is on his own with his RPO offense without the players made to run it.
 
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That’s all well and good, but we have an elite defense. If their was anything resembling a decent offense, we’d be 7-0 or 6-1 right now. Kentucky, Florida, and LSU was winnable. So far we are 1-3 in swing games.

I would take 9-4 in a heartbeat right now, but that wouldn’t erase the “what could have been.”

We are losing with personnel that scored points last year, and that doesn’t breed trust.
 

DAWG61

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Feb 26, 2008
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If the process means watching a steaming pile of dogshit on offense for 3 years then the process can go 17 itself.
 

Joe Schmedlap

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Aug 11, 2010
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This new coach is so far out of his league. You aren't in the Big 10 anymore, Dorothy. If I could, I'd click my 👠 together three times and JoMo would return home to PSU.

QUOTE=DAWG61;1547328]If the process means watching a steaming pile of dogshit on offense for 3 years then the process can go 17 itself.[/QUOTE]
 

ronpolk

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May 6, 2009
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I’m not disappointed or mad about our 3 losses. They were all to good teams and 2 on the road (1 in a place we never win. I’m disappointed in the fact that through 7 games, the offense looks lost and that is 100% a reflection on coaching, especially considering how JM is an offensive coach. Fitz was never going to be confused with Tom Brady but he’s continually being asked to do stuff he can’t do, again a reflection of coaching.

I do respect the fact that JM has the penalties and the substitution problems (causing delay of games) we were having fixed. But he’s wasting a talented team by trying to force this offense on a QB that can’t run it. A good coach should be able to adapt his scheme to fit the talent. And we have talent, including Fitz.
 

TheStateUofMS

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Dec 26, 2009
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I 100% agree with you hear Mstate.

It's even more frustrating when you think we're better than those teams.

The best team we've played so far is LSU, and they did not wow me. Our D completely shut them down for a while. Their D is good, but it doesn't scare me.

I think this D is better under Shoop than Grantham though.
 

Maroon Eagle

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^^^ This. I predicted MSU to be 4-3 at this point of the year and we are 4-3. We won two games I didn't think we'd win (Auburn and Kansas State - I expected Fitz's foibles to happen on the road at Manhattan) and lost two games I thought we should have won (Florida and Kentucky-- both of which are very good teams). I predicted the LSU loss (so, yay? okay, maybe not). And needless to say, I'm also disappointed in the offense.
 

TNT.sixpack

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Nov 4, 2014
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^^^ This. I predicted MSU to be 4-3 at this point of the year and we are 4-3. We won two games I didn't think we'd win (Auburn and Kansas State - I expected Fitz's foibles to happen on the road at Manhattan) and lost two games I thought we should have won (Florida and Kentucky-- both of which are very good teams). I predicted the LSU loss (so, yay? okay, maybe not). And needless to say, I'm also disappointed in the offense.

You’re looking at the names on the jerseys. U say you didn’t expect us to beat Aulbern but did you expect Auburn to be this damn bad? LOOK at the teams we’ve played and how those teams have played. Florida ain’t that good. They lost to a mediocre Kentucky. Kentucky lost fo ATM. None of these teams has good offenses including LSU. We had the defense to throttle them. What we don’t HAVE IS AN OFFENSE to compliment it.
 

JoMo MoJo

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Dec 24, 2017
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What process. We have a national champion defense hitched to a jr high flag football offense. That’s no process. That’s 17’ed upnis what that is.
 

tatedog

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If you ever wondered what the '99 team would've been like with Joe Lee coaching both offense and defense....
 

Seinfeld

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Nov 30, 2006
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Personally, I’m not upset about losing games. I’m upset about the fact that our scoring offense is ranked 81st in the country while putting up a whopping 9 ppg in SEC play. All while Nick is clearly floundering and our actual RBs can barely ever seem to get their hands on a ball

You’re right. It’s ok to lose games against good teams. It’s even ok to get blown out every once awhile. But what you can’t do is have an alleged offensive guru come in with a solid roster of returning players and immediately become one of the most incompetent offenses in the entire country. This is Moorhead’s calling card, and thus far, all he’s done is take a team that scored 30 ppg last year and cut that production by 70%. That is inexcusable

Someone asked in another thread if any of us would be ready to fire a defensive guru with similar results on the other side of the ball. Well, if we hired Peter Sirmon as head coach while giving up 45 ppg, the answer is a resounding YES. You can’t be known for one thing and then not just be bad, but absolutely suck at your area of expertise. That is what Moorhead is doing right now
 

Xenomorph

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Feb 15, 2007
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I don't blame you.. From 2004 to 2008 I tried to convince myself it would be alright. Sometimes it feels good just to believe in something.
 

Arthur2478

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Oct 17, 2010
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I don't care about the loses. It's the way we played in those loses. We got out coached in each of those games. Our offensive staff made no in-game adjustments in each of those games. We were held to single digits in each of those games. If we had just so much as an average offense, we likely win each of those games.
 

ShrubDog

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Apr 13, 2008
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.

Yep lets chalk up our losses to tough environments. We beat a trashy Auburn team (#8 team my ***) and we haven’t scored a TD in two conference games. The best OC in the country couldn’t figure out that passing the ball vs UK wasn’t going to work until after the loss. Dan Mullen beat us nickeling and diming with 3 yard passes. How many touchdowns did we score in that game? Got news for you, LSU isn’t that great either. UGA slipped up and that happens.

How many first year coaches haven’t scored a touchdown in two games and it will prob be 3 in a few weeks? Auburn was never the #8 team and its fools gold to think otherwise.

How in the hell did you get so many thumbs up is the real question.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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Nov 12, 2016
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With 3-6 players transferring out at seasons end, plus losses to NFL... next year is setting up for a disaster. Ole Miss roster will be in better shape than ours...Thanks Cohen!
 

Maroon Eagle

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These were part of SPS's preseason picks. The week State played Auburn, I thought the Bulldogs had a decent chance to win if we went with the ground game-- which we did.
 

bddawg

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Feb 21, 2018
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.

Yeah because we aren't going to face many good teams or play in tough environments!*** excuses excuses. A very talented team that's gone beyond backwards. Someone has to own it. Starts w the head coach. Especially when he is in charge of this inept offense I've watched week after week.
 

WutheringDawg

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Dec 4, 2010
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In no universe will Ole Miss have a better roster. I'm not saying that should be our measuring stick but to say so is just wild.
 

maroonmania

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Feb 23, 2008
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.


I'm still hopeful but 7, 6 and 3 are more important numbers for us in deflating fans than just the fact we lost 3 games to 3 pretty good teams. That's 16 points in 3 games for a team that returned most everyone on offense that averaged a little over 30 points/game in 2017.
 

FordhamBulldog

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Oct 19, 2018
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.

We'll, this thread has aged well 😁
 

RocketDawg

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Oct 21, 2011
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.

I don't remember who the number 2 team was when you posted this last week, but last night we pretty much handled the team that really beat the current number 2 team (Clemson).

We're really good when we're good, but really bad when we're bad. Or at least we look really bad; I suppose the opponent has a lot to do with it.
 

RocketDawg

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2011
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With 3-6 players transferring out at seasons end, plus losses to NFL... next year is setting up for a disaster. Ole Miss roster will be in better shape than ours...Thanks Cohen!

Why do you think we'll have players transferring? Have they said so, or is it pure speculation?
 

FordhamBulldog

Redshirt
Oct 19, 2018
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Are to teams that are combined 19-3. Two of them were in difficult environments. The third was to a REALLY good team and a REALLY good coach who literally knows our players better than our current coach does (not a knock against Joe- Mullen recruited them and was with them for 3 years). We also played LSU better than the number 2 team in the country, and everyone knows Death Valley is more difficult at night.

Also- how many first year head coaches have beat the number 8 team in the country in their 6th game?

Let's all relax and realize that it's a process. Obviously Moorhead and Fitz are not a perfect match.

If you honestly believe that Moorhead forgot how to coach the offense after being the best OC in college last year, I feel sorry for you. Whether it's KT or Shrader, I for one am still very excited for when Moorhead gets a QB who can throw.

Trust the process.

I don't remember who the number 2 team was when you posted this last week, but last night we pretty much handled the team that really beat the current number 2 team (Clemson).

We're really good when we're good, but really bad when we're bad. Or at least we look really bad; I suppose the opponent has a lot to do with it.

I was referring to Georgia who lost worse to LSU than we did
 

RocketDawg

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That's right ... I just couldn't remember who was up there at the time. But still, we solidly beat a team last night that essentially beat the current #2 team, if not for a questionable call at the end.
 

JoMo MoJo

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Dec 24, 2017
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Not really. We have 3 inexcusable losses in a once every 25 years season. Congrats to Coach and Fitz for finally showing the 17 up. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks they can learn to practice for a road game in a hostile environment because we have looked like hot garbage on the road. I suspect Bad Fitz will rear his ugly ahead again in Tuscaloosa. I hope I’m wrong. But you definitely are premature in your optimism.
 

Bulldogg31

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Dec 9, 2013
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Not really. We have 3 inexcusable losses in a once every 25 years season. Congrats to Coach and Fitz for finally showing the 17 up. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks they can learn to practice for a road game in a hostile environment because we have looked like hot garbage on the road. I suspect Bad Fitz will rear his ugly ahead again in Tuscaloosa. I hope I’m wrong. But you definitely are premature in your optimism.

Oh hey are those Cheerios? I should take a piss there.
 
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