Our NET improved overnight

RUDead

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and purdue is right behind us at 32. shouldn't move us too much if we lose to them.
 

RUDead

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Baby steps

Got to love Florida winning at bottom feeder Georgia moves them up 5 spots from 34 to 29.

Why do you think Providence is above RU? They are on a great run, but their NET is 40 and they have some really, really bad losses.
 

bac2therac

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Why do you think Providence is above RU? They are on a great run, but their NET is 40 and they have some really, really bad losses.

Look at those wins...its been overwhelming and on the road too. Sure its body of work but the recent winning negates that bad ooc...but the same line of reasoning can be applied to Rutgers. Just because there is a flaw doesnt mean there are not impressive things to overcome it

Teams that have 1 or 2 wins on the road usually have another issue or flaw on the resume. Palm knows this
 

NewJerseyHawk

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The margin of victory, metrics of shooting percentage and efficiency ratings on offense and defense, all factor into Florida jumping 5 spots. It wasn't just a 14 point victory, they were down 19-6 early and possession by possession, were down Georgia.

Florida isn't a good shooting team, but after the 7-7 start from the field by Georgia, they were held to 13-39 shooting the rest of the way. I know it's Georgia, but that type of performance should translate to their home game vs Kentucky this weekend.

The committee is looking for a reason to move certain teams up for potential matchup purposes and Florida beating Kentucky will warrant them moving up further to justify their seeding.

Arizona, Butler, Florida and Iowa are likely to be seeded higher than they should be based on their schedule played vs actual performance over the season. I believe all 4 are ripe for upsets in the 1st round of NCAAs.
 

DHajekRC84

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The margin of victory, metrics of shooting percentage and efficiency ratings on offense and defense, all factor into Florida jumping 5 spots. It wasn't just a 14 point victory, they were down 19-6 early and possession by possession, were down Georgia.

Florida isn't a good shooting team, but after the 7-7 start from the field by Georgia, they were held to 13-39 shooting the rest of the way. I know it's Georgia, but that type of performance should translate to their home game vs Kentucky this weekend.

The committee is looking for a reason to move certain teams up for potential matchup purposes and Florida beating Kentucky will warrant them moving up further to justify their seeding.

Arizona, Butler, Florida and Iowa are likely to be seeded higher than they should be based on their schedule played vs actual performance over the season. I believe all 4 are ripe for upsets in the 1st round of NCAAs.

not arguing but is that much different from what Rutgers did vs. #9 UM?
Game: 25-65 38.5% Game 3pt: 6-32 18.8%

also, How can the committee effect the NET? I thought that was all METRIC driven? (I don't disagree that they will influence the end result as they do ).
 

NewJerseyHawk

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not arguing but is that much different from what Rutgers did vs. #9 UM?
Game: 25-65 38.5% Game 3pt: 6-32 18.8%

also, How can the committee effect the NET? I thought that was all METRIC driven? (I don't disagree that they will influence the end result as they do ).

It's a 14 point road win, in conference. To do that with shooting your normal percentage and holding Georgia in the mid 50s matters.....if RU didn't allow Maryland to score 10 points in the last 2 minutes, our NET would be higher....I don't believe that we would be seeded higher than Florida, even if we beat Purdue and went 1-1 in the B1G, if they beat Kentucky. Our NET and quality wins exceeds Florida, but they're going to be seeded higher.
 

ru_upstate

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Assuming we don't play on Wednesday in the B1G tournament, there is really no mechanism for our metrics to drop significantly. We will have a good NET. Quad 1 is good. Quad 1 + 2 is good. It will come down to whether the committee fundamentally rejects a team with 1 (hopefully 2) road win.

Should have played Caldwell on the road (just kidding)
 

DHajekRC84

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It's a 14 point road win, in conference. To do that with shooting your normal percentage and holding Georgia in the mid 50s matters.....if RU didn't allow Maryland to score 10 points in the last 2 minutes, our NET would be higher....I don't believe that we would be seeded higher than Florida, even if we beat Purdue and went 1-1 in the B1G, if they beat Kentucky. Our NET and quality wins exceeds Florida, but they're going to be seeded higher.
I missed the ROAD part. And yeah, I get the way the committee has historically done things.. THX
 

DHajekRC84

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Assuming we don't play on Wednesday in the B1G tournament, there is really no mechanism for our metrics to drop significantly. We will have a good NET. Quad 1 is good. Quad 1 + 2 is good. It will come down to whether the committee fundamentally rejects a team with 1 (hopefully 2) road win.

Should have played Caldwell on the road (just kidding)

Still wouldn't have counted ..?
Anyone who has watched this team play and votes to keep them out just wants to keep them out.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Very good day in the A-10 for RU.

Winning at La Salle didn’t move uMass NET much but all we really care about is it staying better than 161 to remain in Q3. that win should probably do it with only Rhode Island left on the schedule followed by middle of the pack team.

St Bonnies win keeps hope for no Q3 or 4 losses alive. their NET is 115. Need it to go down to 100, right? Next game is @ St Louis. Then the conf tourney.
 

Miggins

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It's a 14 point road win, in conference. To do that with shooting your normal percentage and holding Georgia in the mid 50s matters.....if RU didn't allow Maryland to score 10 points in the last 2 minutes, our NET would be higher....I don't believe that we would be seeded higher than Florida, even if we beat Purdue and went 1-1 in the B1G, if they beat Kentucky. Our NET and quality wins exceeds Florida, but they're going to be seeded higher.
I may be wrong, but thought NET only gave credit for a win up to 10 poitns. Over 10 points doesn't earn extra "points". The logic beging not to encourage running up the score
 

bac2therac

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Assuming we don't play on Wednesday in the B1G tournament, there is really no mechanism for our metrics to drop significantly. We will have a good NET. Quad 1 is good. Quad 1 + 2 is good. It will come down to whether the committee fundamentally rejects a team with 1 (hopefully 2) road win.

Should have played Caldwell on the road (just kidding)


great point.....Our NET is likely above 40 even if a loss to Purdue and Big 10 tourney game. A chance for 20s with a Purdue win
 

bac2therac

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Very good day in the A-10 for RU.

Winning at La Salle didn’t move uMass NET much but all we really care about is it staying better than 161 to remain in Q3. that win should probably do it with only Rhode Island left on the schedule followed by middle of the pack team.

St Bonnies win keeps hope for no Q3 or 4 losses alive. their NET is 115. Need it to go down to 100, right? Next game is @ St Louis. Then the conf tourney.


still hoping that Stephen F Austin can inch forward and be a Q2 win
 

AshCatchEm

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Look at those wins...its been overwhelming and on the road too. Sure its body of work but the recent winning negates that bad ooc...but the same line of reasoning can be applied to Rutgers. Just because there is a flaw doesnt mean there are not impressive things to overcome it

Teams that have 1 or 2 wins on the road usually have another issue or flaw on the resume. Palm knows this
It's the big east. Big east wins are worth 1/2 of what big ten wins are.
 

RUinFla

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Wake me on Selection Sunday. Said last year hat if they were in, would streak my Senior Citizens' building. This year, was more confident, so said I would only streak this floor. At midnight. Singing Loyal Sons. Will let you know about Go Fund Me to pay my bail.
 

BigRnj

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Wake me on Selection Sunday. Said last year hat if they were in, would streak my Senior Citizens' building. This year, was more confident, so said I would only streak this floor. At midnight. Singing Loyal Sons. Will let you know about Go Fund Me to pay my bail.
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No need for Go Fund Me. Just have someone film it and split the $10K from America’s Funniest Home Videos.
 

Tango Two

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I may be wrong, but thought NET only gave credit for a win up to 10 poitns. Over 10 points doesn't earn extra "points". The logic beging not to encourage running up the score


Correct nothing gained after 10 points