OT: Yee ole handgun discussion

[MedDawg]

 

[Dawgbite]

I have smaller hands so the Glocks just do not fit my hand as well as the 1911"s. The best carry gun is the one that you will carry and not leave at home because it is too big or too heavy. Carrying a North American 22 revolver is better than having 5 Glocks at home. Eventhough I am a 1911 fan as far a shooting is concerned,I am not always comfortable carrying locked and cocked so my carry 1911 is a Para Ordanance LDA light double action 9mm. it has an aluminium frame for weight savings, feels like a 1911 in your hands, safety included, and has a trigger similar to a Glock. Best of both worlds. The latest object of my desires is a Diamond 9mm which is about the same size as the .380 pocket pistols but still shoots 9mm ammo, just not +P stuff. I agree that SIG is a Cadillac but a good custom shop 1911 is a Rolls Royce, shoot a Wilson Combat or a Les Baer and you will see the difference.

 

[boatsnhoes]

having a sig. I wanted to know what someone else had to say that had a sig and a bunch of others to compare it to. As well as caliber/ballistics of bullet. I don't want to buy another gun that is virtually the same casing, recoil, knock downand performance as a 9. I understand the .40 would be more knock down stopping power over a 9. I love the sig, it's is hard not to. Everyone who shoots it loves it whether they own glock, kimbers, springfields, berretta, deringer, or whatever.

 

[SwampDawg]

I have a government model Springfield that shoots everything right out of the box. My carry gun, when I do, is a Para Ordnance compact in stainless steel. I carry it hammer down, with one in the chamber, so instead of having to take it off safety (one move) I just cock it (one move.) I was about to can it for lack of reliability but I replaced the OEM magazines with Check Mate and solved my problem.

 

[PTC Dawg]

I have finally decided to get something for home security after my aunt had an attempted break in last night (she is not in MS). Should I get a pistol or shotgun? If pistol where should I go (live around Starkville)?
Thanks for any input, and I don't mind driving to get the best option.

 

[starkvegasdawg]

There is a whole thread on this very topic that was done earlier today. Go to page two or so on the thread listings and you should find it.

 

[weblow]

Pretty sure it covers most of what you are looking for.

Click here

 

[GerryBertier]

The 1911 is made to carry in condition 1 and with ample practice time, there is nothing not safe about carrying it that way. When caught in a bad situation, it is much easier to take the safety off than cocking the hammer. Every second matters and you should be able to draw, grip, and take down the safety in one fluid motion...making it time efficient. Most will never be in that situation and I hope none of us will ever be.

If you are looking for a home defense gun, its really hard to beat a pump shotgun with a mounted light.

Like in anything, the perfect gun for you depends on its purpose of use. And what works for me may not work for you.

 

[PTC Dawg]

My bad, don't know if the first few replies from the thread answered my question, but I'll look at it.

 

[RC3]

why not both?

 

[tenureplan]

nm

 

[aTotal360]

nm

 

[EmoryBellard]

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php

I've used Bud's to buy several firearms and ammo, and they are A+. I really like being able to look at their (vast) selection and then go read reviews. Bud's ships firearms for free generally, and they almost always arrive 2-3 days from the day you order. By law, they have to ship to an FFL, which is usually going to be anywhere closeby that sells firearms (mine's a pawnshop). Bud's site has a list where you can enter your ZIP and search. The FFL will charge you somewhere around $25 to transfer the gun. All that takes is you filling out a simple form, them calling the federales, and if you aren't on their **** list, that's it.

 

[aTotal360]

and a lucky rabbits foot.

 

[elmsurfer1]

and it will have 5 410 shells in it. My neighbors like the idea of bullets not going through my walls into their homes too.

 

[EmoryBellard]

I'm sure it's fun to shoot, and it's a neat looking novelty gun. But the ones I see are $500-600. For that you can get a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500 12 or 20ga, and have enough left to buy a Taurus .38 revolver or something. Merely my opinion...

 

[grandpa jones]

Perfect companion gun for your Sig. Here is a review

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Funny movie.

 

[MedDawg]

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[DirtyLopez]

"gun people" hate the judge. It is ok if you shoot the pistol cartridge out of it, but the shotgun shell out of that short of a barrel isn't ideal by any means. Do I want to get shot with one? No. But there are better choices.

 

[TUSK.sixpack]

While i do love a shotgun for home defense, the idea that it is a "can't miss proposition" is a myth... even a moderately length shotgun barrel distributes shot with a very narrow pattern at super close range.<div>
</div><div>it boils down to barrel length.</div><div>
</div><div>That being said, I am a big fan of the 870 3" 12gauge with #1, a double-row Para-OrnanceLDA 45ACP w/ 230gr HydraShocks and 2 Claymore mines in trees at adjacent corners of my perimeter (for added insurance).</div><div>
</div><div>happy huntin'</div>

 

[KurtRambis4]

British PM from crazy Irish militants

/patriotgames'd

 

[aTotal360]

Its not a target range pistol, but great for killin' stuff (varmints and reptiles). Don't think I've ever put a .38 round in mine, 410 only.<div>
</div><div>If I want to go to the range, I take me P220.</div>

 

[GloryDawg]

I always shot expert at the pistol range. I was also a coach several times at the pistol range. But in my house I want a shot gun with a full choke. The pattern is tight but broad enough not to miss. If it was a modified choke I might agree however if you shoot at someone with a shot gun he will received some of the shot regardless. With a person who ha not been trained to use a pistol the chances of missing is very high. It's not like firing at a standing target.If it makes you feel safe great but until you stare down someone who has a gun pointing at you, you don't really know how you will react and you don't know how your reaction is going to affect your shot. Will you squeeze the trigger or will you pull it? One is good and the other is bad. With a shot gun it doesn't' matter much. Even police carry 20 guage shot guns along with their side arms. It is light and short. It is idea for home protection. I m not saying don't have a hand gun, revolver or pistol, I was just stating what I perferred. Also I do have a hand gun.

 

[the next big thing]

but i have a judge just like the one in the picture and that is one lethal mf'er.

ive always considered it to be a short-range pistol, but maybe i havent practiced enough with it. bowling pins at 100yd is impressive.

i read where the rifling in the barrel "slings" the shot in a wider pattern than a normal barrel. i know you can fill a doorway with #4 or #6 shot at 12 feet, easy.

i keep mine loaded with 000Buck backed up by a couple 45's. but there are all typesof home defense rounds you can buy. somearea mix ofsmall metal wafers and bb shot.

that ***** will make your ears ring for days.

 

[ltreb]

But the only time I needed a gun I didn't have one. Now I have a .25 Beretta and a hammerless S&W .38 that I can carry anytime.

 

[PBRME]

I have a 12ga auto for me, and my old 410 pump for the wife, just in case.

 

[MaroonInNashville]

You can get a brand new Mossberg 500 in 12ga for $300.

 

[MaroonInNashville]

</p>KelTec ShotGun: 12GA, two 7-round tubes, pump

 

[exileddog]

Unless you have money to blow stay away from that KSG. Store prices are much higher than they should be.

For the original post, if you like your Sig buy another one. I'd say go with a Sig P220. As far as practical defensive handguns go the 45 ACP is king unless you want a revolver. The .40 S&W does not offer enough of an advantage over the 9mm to warrant the snappy recoil and reduced mag capacity. In terms of real world ballistics the .40 honestly just doesn't offer enough advantage over the 9mm to warrant buying another kind of ammo.

The 45 ACP actually has less perceived recoil than the .40 and has the advantage of making bigger holes. Bigger holes means more rapid blood loss. More rapid blood loss means faster incapacitation. Faster incapacitation means you stand a better chance of surviving the fight.

The shotgun will give you a better hit probability with less practice/training. A 12 gauge shotgun will also deliver more shock and create a larger permanent cavity than almost any handgun round in existence. A 12 gauge shotgun trumps pistols in a fire fight which is why manypolice carry them.

 

[Carlton31698]

Unless you have money to blow stay away from that KSG. Store prices are much higher than they should be.

For the original post, if you like your Sig buy another one. I'd say go with a Sig P220. As far as practical defensive handguns go the 45 ACP is king unless you want a revolver. The .40 S&W does not offer enough of an advantage over the 9mm to warrant the snappy recoil and reduced mag capacity. In terms of real world ballistics the .40 honestly just doesn't offer enough advantage over the 9mm to warrant buying another kind of ammo.

The 45 ACP actually has less perceived recoil than the .40 and has the advantage of making bigger holes. Bigger holes means more rapid blood loss. More rapid blood loss means faster incapacitation. Faster incapacitation means you stand a better chance of surviving the fight.

The shotgun will give you a better hit probability with less practice/training. A 12 gauge shotgun will also deliver more shock and create a larger permanent cavity than almost any handgun round in existence. A 12 gauge shotgun trumps pistols in a fire fight which is why manypolice carry them.

Very good answer.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Not for use if you live in a neighborhood. Out in the wilderness it will protect you at a good range. I don't know about shooting a bear, never tried that.