OT: Wrestlemania

[MSUDC11]

For those that watched, thoughts? I had it on my iPad in the background until the women's game ended, then immediately flipped over.

Thought it was a very good show, actually. The Wyatt/Orton match and the main event probably keep it from being in the best ever conversation, but it was significantly better than last year's show.

I felt sick watching Taker. He should've retired after the loss to Brock. That was really, really bad.

Shane/AJ was awesome. KO/Jericho was very good. Really liked Rollins vs Triple H too. And the Hardy's! Huge pop for that return. Heck, even Lesnar/Goldberg was as good as it possibly could've been given that Goldberg had been in the ring for about 5 minutes in 13 years.

Felt very meh about everything going into the show but I came away very satisfied with it as a whole. The bad things were really bad but the good stuff was awesome.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Been a huge wrestling fan my whole life, but nowadays I only watch the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania. I was underwhelmed by the show. Enjoyed the AJ Styles match and the Hardys' return. Roman Reigns is pure trash and the fans hate him. Felt legitimately sad for The Undertaker. The benefit of a fake sport is that you don't have to see your heroes "lose it," but Taker just can't go anymore. Should have put him with AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, etc. to make him look good in his last match. I just don't see the appeal of Roman Reigns, I predict he'll flop hard.

 

[MSUDC11]

Roman in the ring is not awful, but he's never going to be accepted as the top good guy. Fans want to boo him really badly.

They had a golden opportunity to turn him heel tonight and it doesn't look like that was ever their intention. Don't understand that at all.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Y'all do know Rasslin' is fake?

 

[aTotal360]

I see where the show was 7 hours long from start to finish. I just watched parts of it. The Undertaker did indeed look like a dead man walking (ie turrible). The Shane McMahon fight was the best. The whole Broken Matt Hardy gimmick still makes me laugh. Roman Reigns is meh.

 

[Dawg1979]

i watched b/c i could watch for free. haven't watched wrassllin since i was in college almost 20 years ago. but i thought it was ok. the tag match where the guy dove off the ladder, flipped, and landed on 2 other guys on ladders was pretty cool. it may be fake, but some of those guys will risk a lot for the "sport". Goldberg was always my favorite, so it sucked seeing him lose. its nice watching PPV though without all the dialog that happens on regular TV.

 

[MSUDC11]

The length of the show definitely didn't help. I thought the first three hours were awesome and pretty much all of the negative came toward the end.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

It went downhill when WWF and WCW merged and formed WWE. The ideas, acting and charisma and have been total sh*t since that day in 2002. Wrestlemania 18 was the peak, since then it's been a slow decline. Lack of competition will do that. The only real success they've had was bringing back the old school characters here and there, for the hyped 'RETURN OF.......".

The excitement just isn't there like it used to be.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Y'all do know Rasslin' is fake?

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[aTotal360]

It definitely petered out.

 

[MSUDC11]

Part of the problem is that they stopped caring about building new stars for some reason.

They gave their main championship to Kevin Owens, an insanely talented heel with huge upside, for about six months. Decided they wanted to do Owens vs. Goldberg about a month ago, and instead of having Owens win a big match and making him seem like a big deal to the casual fan, they let Goldberg crush him in literally 20 seconds.

The long term planning seems to be very poor. What happens when all of these guys from the late 90's can't do it anymore? They've gotta let the guys that are actually there full time have opportunities to grow into these star making roles. I'm not sure what having Goldberg vs. Lesnar as your title match accomplishes in the long run.

 

[Tin Cup Cowboy]

Good article about that subject...

http://deadspin.com/the-best-thing-about-this-years-wrestlemania-is-a-bruta-1793886896

 

[Hoover Dawg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGQugQpjz8

Not a single star in the WWE now (that isn't over the hill) that could command that type of crowd reaction.

 

[aTotal360]

One of the problems is that a lot of the older guys don't want to "put over" the young guys because of their egos.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

Sounds like a lot of baby boomers.

 

[MSUDC11]

CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were the closest they've gotten in recent years to having a bonified mega star like they had in the old days. Unfortunately they pissed Punk off and he left and injuries cut D-Bry's career short.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

The crowd has always hated Reigns and he's flat out terrible on the mic.

 

[Seinfeld]

I'll first say that last year's WM32 was the worst one I've ever seen, so it wasn't going to take much to one up it. I had mixed feelings about WM33, though. Solid matches from start to finish, but virtually no surprises, very little star power, and a bunch of predictable outcomes. The Orton win was really the only one that shocked me, and I just don't get what Vince has against Bray. He should be a 3 or 4 time champ by now

Overall, it looks like WWE is finally going to move away from its older Attitude Era guys, but I'd be lying if I said that the future was bright. There are a lot of good mid-card level guys on the roster, but very few that can carry the company. The days of having a single roster with HBK, HHH, Taker, Rock, Stone Cold, etc are long gone.