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If she’s willing to say whatever she wants about someone in her own party, including that he is a racist, and then justifies it because “it was a debate,” what’s the point? There will be no fact checking, at least a lot less than there should be.
 

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If she’s willing to say whatever she wants about someone in her own party, including that he is a racist, and then justifies it because “it was a debate,” what’s the point? There will be no fact checking, at least a lot less than there should be.

Believe all women. 🤭
 

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idk, donald called teds wife ugly to his face and ted took it right up his balloon knot.
now, ted blows him regular.
and ghwb called reaganomics voodoo economics, then lo’ n behold hes the vp.
its sop.
 

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idk, donald called teds wife ugly to his face and ted took it right up his balloon knot.
now, ted blows him regular.
and ghwb called reaganomics voodoo economics, then lo’ n behold hes the vp.
its sop.

He didbt choose Cruz to run with him. So your analogy doesnt fit the situation. .
 
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idk, donald called teds wife ugly to his face and ted took it right up his balloon knot.
now, ted blows him regular.
and ghwb called reaganomics voodoo economics, then lo’ n behold hes the vp.
its sop.
Those examples aren’t at all relevant
 

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I dont know why we accept people lying for votes about their positions.

She accused him of racism and rape.

Thats not the equivalent to calling so someone ugly.
 
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All politicians lie so who do you vote for?
Certainly some lies are much more significant than others, but that’s not the main point. The real issue is that she, without even batting an eye, admitted it, freely, even laughing about it. She doesn’t even pretend to care, or even worse, doesn’t understand. And to use the nuclear issue of race, in this environment? This is terribly terribly concerning.
 

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Certainly some lies are much more significant than others, but that’s not the main point. The real issue is that she, without even batting an eye, admitted it, freely, even laughing about it. She doesn’t even pretend to care, or even worse, doesn’t understand. And to use the nuclear issue of race, in this environment? This is terribly terribly concerning.

People like her and Biden is why many voted for Trump.
 

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If she’s willing to say whatever she wants about someone in her own party, including that he is a racist, and then justifies it because “it was a debate,” what’s the point? There will be no fact checking, at least a lot less than there should be.

Puh-lease. I fully expect Pence to reinvent history when he gets up there tonight, just as he did during the convention. It's gonna be biblical: "and on the seventh day, Mr. Trump defeated covid, aka the sniffles."
 

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Interesting moderator. Until the Republicans grow a spine, I can’t blame the dims for using all the tools available.

 

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Interesting moderator. Until the Republicans grow a spine, I can’t blame the dims for using all the tools available.

She also wrote this, however it doesn’t fit in your narrative
Why don’t you read more? Maybe keep an open mind you might learn something?
 
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All politicians lie so who do you vote for?

To say that all politicians lie is a cop-out. Many absolutely do, and some do it quite often. But it should be pointed out that:
1- not all lies are the same;
2- sources of info often differ on key details, so just because someone labels something a lie doesn't automatically mean it is; and
3- to lie means to knowingly state a falsehood

One example some like to give of a lie is when Obama was campaigning in '08 he said "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". When the ACA was passed, this ended up being not true for many people. Was it a lie? Did he know the details of the ACA when he made that statement? I think it's unlikely, so I wouldn't rate it as a lie.

A clear example of a lie, IMO, is when John McCain ran ads during his final campaign for Senator stating specifically that he'd vote to end the ACA; however, after being reelected largely on that promise, he showed us all that he was full of it when he infamously gave the thumbs down against the repeal. He was the deciding vote.
 

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To say that all politicians lie is a cop-out. Many absolutely do, and some do it quite often. But it should be pointed out that:
1- not all lies are the same;
2- sources of info often differ on key details, so just because someone labels something a lie doesn't automatically mean it is; and
3- to lie means to knowingly state a falsehood

One example some like to give of a lie is when Obama was campaigning in '08 he said "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". When the ACA was passed, this ended up being not true for many people. Was it a lie? Did he know the details of the ACA when he made that statement? I think it's unlikely, so I wouldn't rate it as a lie.

A clear example of a lie, IMO, is when John McCain ran ads during his final campaign for Senator stating specifically that he'd vote to end the ACA; however, after being reelected largely on that promise, he showed us all that he was full of it when he infamously gave the thumbs down against the repeal. He was the deciding vote.
This is an interesting/insightful breakdown. How can the same thoughtful person who wrote this gobble up the rolling river of lies spewed by Trump every...single...day. What happens to your objectivity? What is it? You do explain away all of his lies. I just don't get it.
 

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Shes lied about 3 times minimum.

Trump has paid 1 million in taxes in 2016 and 4 2 million taxes in 2017.

She lied.
 
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Puh-lease. I fully expect Pence to reinvent history when he gets up there tonight, just as he did during the convention. It's gonna be biblical: "and on the seventh day, Mr. Trump defeated covid, aka the sniffles."
Missing the point is a specialty of yours. It’s past your bedtime. Are you being sneaky getting on your Apple Watch under your sheets.
 

Mrs.Jeans15

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Kamala just let it out she had the questions before the debate.

She agreed with the moderator that Pences question was a great segways into the next question


How would she know that?
 

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I'm surprised he agreed to sit in the same room with a woman. I can tell it makes him nervous. He doesn't know what to do. Look at his face, it's turning purple.
Wanna talk about lies? Pence just said our air, land and water is cleaner than it has ever been. That is a massive freaking lie. And he just denied climate change. That is a massive denial of scientific evidence proved by scientists from across the globe for decades. The administration can say whatever bull they want on climate change, but you better believe that businesses are absolutely preparing and adjusting their operations to reflect a changing climate.
 
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Wanna talk about lies? Pence just said our air, land and water is cleaner than it has ever been. That is a massive freaking lie. And he just denied climate change. That is a massive denial of scientific evidence proved by scientists from across the globe for decades. The administration can say whatever bull they want on climate change, but you better believe that businesses are absolutely preparing and adjusting their operations to reflect a changing climate.
You just responded to yourself genius. Let me know how your argument with yourself turns out. Hahaha
 

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Wanna talk about lies? Pence just said our air, land and water is cleaner than it has ever been. That is a massive freaking lie. And he just denied climate change. That is a massive denial of scientific evidence proved by scientists from across the globe for decades. The administration can say whatever bull they want on climate change, but you better believe that businesses are absolutely preparing and adjusting their operations to reflect a changing climate.

The statement pence made was about CO2

Google CO2 emissions by country it’s gone down for the US

He was correct
 

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So Biden saved the auto indusrty. Obama did nothing.

Just like Biden to take credit for a mans work.
 

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Wanna talk about lies? Pence just said our air, land and water is cleaner than it has ever been. That is a massive freaking lie. And he just denied climate change. That is a massive denial of scientific evidence proved by scientists from across the globe for decades. The administration can say whatever bull they want on climate change, but you better believe that businesses are absolutely preparing and adjusting their operations to reflect a changing climate.
Quoting yourself, and replying to yourself? I knew it. It doesn't matter if anyone is even present or engaged, you just keep talking.
 

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So Harris never said if China was a foe.

And she gave the credit to the Chinese dictator over the American President..lol
 

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I'm surprised he agreed to sit in the same room with a woman. I can tell it makes him nervous. He doesn't know what to do. Look at his face, it's turning purple.
Nervous? Doesn't know what to do? Project much?
 
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