OT whotever dismanted Saints

[amcdan2000]

Did a hell of a good job.

 

[msstate7]

The job isn't complete... Get rid of Brees, then attempt to get this turned around

 

[esplanade91]

All the NFL beats are saying Sean Payton is going to get traded after the season. Full rebuild.

 

[msstate7]

Wonder if we can work out a package deal of Payton and Brees

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

Some rumors floating around about Coach Peyton going to the Miami Dolphins.

Might as well move to Miami, hell the Saints already had a "YARD SALE" when they gave away all their talented players---sold Sproles and Jimmy Graham for $7.32 and a bootleg copy of "Lucky Number Slevin".

 

[8dog]

Brees isnt what he was but he has no protection and no weapons. Doesnt really matter who is back there.

 

[msstate7]

Cook and colston are good wr's. Ingram is a decent running threat and spiller should be used more in the passing game.

 

[8dog]

Cooks seems to be misused. He isnt busting the deep route like they keep trying. Seems like they should try to get him in space more. Every time he goes deep he is swallowed up it seems

Colston seems
To be going thru the motions and just doesnt seem to be targeted or catching critical downs. He had a big third down drop today when the game was still in doubt.


The grahams and sproles have been gamechangers for the offense. That and a quality line

 

[esplanade91]

Don't understand the want to get rid of Brees. He is not the problem.

The Saints need a total rebuild, players, management, and scouts. I'm ok with getting rid of Payton and Brees IF that means we're committing to a rebuild, but if we get rid of arguably one of the top 2 or 3 NFL head coaches and ship out the best player in franchise history and then use those draft picks to choose a corner everyone else has projected in the 5th round I'm going to be livid. And with Loomis around, I have no faith that won't happen.

If not, keep Brees, trade Payton to the Giants for as much as you can get back, and clean house. When you have years where a 56 year old Champ Bailey is your best FA signing and then you choose a tackle out of a SWAC school in the draft just because of his 40 time, these types of seasons happen.

Won't get started on his negotiation skills.

 

[msstate7]

I'm all in on a rebuild which is why I want to move Brees. Brees is too old and expensive for a team tearing down

 

[was21]

Ever since he got the big raise a couple of years ago, he hasn't played worth a kiss my ***...but nobody ever says anything about it until now

 

[esplanade91]

Which is exactly why he isn't tradeable. The only reason Brees isn't on the roster next season is he retires or he was waived.

 

[Shamoan]

defense has always been ****. all they did after that was ship jimmy graham out to the highest bidder. offense was dead in the water after that.

 

[esplanade91]

I'm actually ok with getting rid of Jimmy. I thought he put our offense on a leash, but I thought the whole point of getting rid of him was to put more emphasis on outside and possession receivers.

We didn't sign any and we also managed to trade our best WR to Miami for nothing.

Payton and Brees were at their best when they had speed and could send 3 receivers wide. Jimmy was great for X yards over the middle, but so is Colston. Just a luxury item at that point.

 

[Shamoan]

ok, so name an offensive threat that is currently on the roster outside of drew brees. its a freaking wasteland. its been headed downhill for a while and jimmy was the only real threat on the roster last season. no elite players at all imo.

 

[llmsudawg]

The Saints problems begin with Tom Benson's current wife

And her dismantling of his fortune and family. It all starts from the top and trickles down through the organization. As long as she is in control, it won't get any better.

When Rita was looking after the franchise, things were running smooth.

 

[uptowndawg]

I'm looking at Loomis. No excuse to have $26 Mil in dead money.

 

[fishwater99]

Yep. Never should have give Drew that big contract. Not enough to pay other players. He has one year left I think.

 

[BruceBruce]

And her dismantling of his fortune and family. It all starts from the top and trickles down through the organization. As long as she is in control, it won't get any better.

When Rita was looking after the franchise, things were running smooth.

This couldn't be further from the truth. Rita is a complete idiot.

 

[dawgstudent]

If there was a guy to completely destroy the Saints yesterday - I'm glad it was Fletcher Cox.

 

[msstate7]

If there was a guy to completely destroy the Saints yesterday - I'm glad it was Fletcher Cox.

Key word is "yesterday"... There will more destruction to come. My bet is Julio jones up next. I'll be there and I'm looking for a paper bag

 

[esplanade91]

That's my point. Jimmy wasn't a good fit for Brees' offense, which isn't to say they didn't put up some great numbers together.

When we traded him all indications pointed to us going all-in with Stills, Cooks, and perhaps another 1st round WR to emulate the offenses of 2008-recent. But we traded Stills and didn't add a single threat in the draft or free agency except CJ... Which makes no sense considering our existing backfield. If we had kept Jimmy we'd be having the same issues we're having now (Brees has thrown for 300+ in two straight games) but we wouldn't have had the money to afford Browner or any of our draft picks.

 

[llmsudawg]

forgot my sarcastericks...

This couldn't be further from the truth. Rita is a complete idiot.

 

[johnson86-1]

Don't understand the want to get rid of Brees. He is not the problem.

How much of New Orleans cap is taken up by Brees? I'm not an NFL guy, but it seems like whenever people have to pay market for a franchise QB, it makes it damn hard to acquire and keep all the other pieces necessary to maintain a run beyond two or three years. The Patriots do it by Brady taking less and it seems they are pretty consistent about not letting themselves overpay for players in general, even when other franchises would succumb to fan pressure to keep a guy.