OT: While we're on the restaurant topic, is Bonefish Grill...

pDigital32Dawg

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I was told that the Grill has been serving Harvey's food recently. Since Harvey's is undergoing renovation, the Grill has been stocked with Harvey's freezer until the work is done at Harvey's restaurant. Granted, I haven't eaten at the Grill recently, so I cannot verify this. If Starkville's version is anything like Columbus's Grill, it has certainly gone downhill in my opinion. I have never enjoyed eating at the Grill in Columbus, as I have the one in Starkville.
 

KurtRambis4

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I'm sorry

and mean no disrespect, Mr. Harvey, but Harvey's wouldn't even be on the top 10 list of restaurants in Jackson for me. I'm sure at some point it was nice, but it's just a glorified Applebee's now.
 

johnson86-1

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Sadly, it's about as high-end a population as small as Starkville can support.

I think you're wrong about this. Lots of small towns in Mississippi have higher end restaurants than BoneFish. Pretty much every delta town has a restaurant of much higher quality. And it's not that Bonefish sucks. I think Bonefish is a very good chain. Although the last few times I've eaten there makes me worried it's changing, previously they have very consistently had good quality food. Maybe not as good as the best seafood restaurants, but better than most.

There's only two reaons I can think of that Starkville doesn't have better high end restaurants. One is that north Mississippi seems to love an average chain restaurant. As much as people in oxford like to brag about their restaurants, their applebees or chiles at the end of Jackson was always more packed than their local stuff. Two is that so much of the population is price sensitive college students. Even though there is enough money there to have nicer restaurants, there is so much good, cheap food available because of how competitive the students make the market, that people that would otherwise eat at higher end (if not necessarily better) restaurants go for the good cheap food also.
 

seshomoru

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Harvey's pioneered the artisanal food scene in Mississippi?

First of all... what the 17 does that even mean?
 

FreeDawg

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I think you're slighlty misunderstanding what I meant. I think Starkville tops out in the high teens to mid twenties check avaerage. I don't think you'll ever see a Shapley's or Tico's price point in Starkville (I could be wrong). Bonefish is pushing that upper end of price point that is sustainable in my opinion. There is also a very wide range of "feel" in that high teen-mid 20 check average range. It can be a very laid back atmosphere or white table cloth. I'm certainly not saying Starkville doesn't deserve nice things. As an alumnus, the more town growth, the better.

I def think a place in the upper-end price point I noted can make it. It will have to get creative like I discussed what I'd do and what Tyler/Veranda did. The major advantage a big chain has over privately owned is the national marketing machine. They could add commercials and Mail/newspaper inserts to selected demographics with ease. That's why I respect Veranda and Tyler so much. They didn't have that type of support.

Being that one guy took enough offense to sign up for an account to blast me I need to mention that I'm in the privately owned food business sector myself. I'm certainly not pro-chain and anti little guy. When I come to Starkville I eat locally 100% of the time. Just wanted to give a different view point on certain aspects of chains
 
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ronpolk

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I think you're slighlty misunderstanding what I meant. I think Starkville tops out in the high teens to mid twenties check avaerage. I don't think you'll ever see a Shapley's or Tico's price point in Starkville (I could be wrong). Bonefish is pushing that upper end of price point that is sustainable in my opinion. There is also a very wide range of "feel" in that high teen-mid 20 check average range. It can be a very laid back atmosphere or white table cloth. I'm certainly not saying Starkville doesn't deserve nice things. As an alumnus, the more town growth, the better.

I def think a place in the upper-end price point can make it. It will have to get creative like I discussed what I'd do and what Tyler/Veranda did. The major advantage a big chain has over privately owned is the national marketing machine. They could add commercials and Mail/newspaper inserts to selected demographics with ease. That's why I respect Veranda and Tyler so much. They didn't have that type of support.

Being that one guy took enough offense to sign up for an account to blast me I need to mention that I'm in the privately owned food business sector myself. I'm certainly not pro-chain and anti little guy. When I come to Starkville I eat locally 100% of the time. Just wanted to give a different view point on certain aspects of chains

You can debate about if it will work or not but there will be a restaurant starting construction shortly and it will be exactly in that price range of shapleys/ticos
 

FreeDawg

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You can debate about if it will work or not but there will be a restaurant starting construction shortly and it will be exactly in that price range of shapleys/ticos

Cool. I'll go when I'm in town and I hope they do great. I'll be rooting for them.
 

ronpolk

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Cool. I'll go when I'm in town and I hope they do great. I'll be rooting for them.

I would share the same feelings as you though. I think it'll be hard to make it with a business model of a fine dining steakhouse. But maybe starkville will support it. I'm sure it'll do fine during football season.
 

johnson86-1

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I think you're slighlty misunderstanding what I meant. I think Starkville tops out in the high teens to mid twenties check avaerage. I don't think you'll ever see a Shapley's or Tico's price point in Starkville (I could be wrong). Bonefish is pushing that upper end of price point that is sustainable in my opinion. There is also a very wide range of "feel" in that high teen-mid 20 check average range.

I don't think I'm misunderstanding you. I can believe that Starkville may not get a restaurant with a much higher per check average, I'm just saying it's not because Starkville's population is too small to support one.
 

trob115

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Starkville is blessed to have a wonderful dining establishment like Harvey's. Normally, you'd have to drive to real city like Jackson or Tuscaloosa to enjoy food and atmosphere of such a high caliber, but we have it right here in our hometown. They pioneered the artisanal food scene in Mississippi.

Bonefish Grille on the other hand is total dogcrap. The menu is both pedestrian and stomach churning. You'd be right at home there in acid-washed jorts and puffy white sneakers.

Thanks for ruining the grill and your apparent self assessment of Harvey's is very flawed. Harvey's barely makes it in my top 10 restaurants in Starkville.
 

BulldogBlitz

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that's pretty rich, but speckled with some truths. the size of starkville does have a bigger (and better) selection than a comparible town size.
 

mcdawg22

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Cheese sticks, that's it. That is all Harvey's does well that is unique and done well. That's it.
 
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