There are more unemployed 20 somethings sitting around drinking beer than smoking weed.
OT: Weed remains schedule 1
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There are more unemployed 20 somethings sitting around drinking beer than smoking weed.
Don't disagree with that, but there are not films of unemployed 20 somethings sitting around drinking beer, having sex, burning the American flag and bad mouthing this Country like there is of the history of weed. Like I said, perception.
Yes yes tell me more about how people dont have a history of doing dumb stuff when they're drunk I'm totally listening**
You may be listening but you ain't hearing. I'm positive that I've done some dumb things when drunk but the films and news reels of what I said burns deep into a lot of the old timers like me. Perception, get it?
Why should anyone care about how much propaganda you've watched? What's it prove? If no one ever bad mouthed some of the stupid **** this country is guilty of we would still be living like it was 1776.
You sound like that guy who professes to love the idea of freedom but is against, for some reason, something as innocuous as a 20 year old being free to smoke pot and **** talk the US government.
You sound like that guy who professes to love the idea of freedom but is against, for some reason, something as innocuous as a 20 year old being free to smoke pot and **** talk the US government.
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I do love the idea of freedom, but I don't like when a 20 year old sits around smoking pot and **** talking the US like he or she has contributed anything of importance to this Country. There are some exceptions to this.........but not the norm.
Gotta agree with this. Only reason pot was criminalized in the first place is so that Nixon could lock up dissidents and unwanteds (read that word however you want ha)
Sounds like your perception is 17ed to me...
You would be very, very surprised if you realized how many moral, functioning, contributing members of society smoke weed every now and then. Do you think that people in CO and WA are just sitting around with no jobs, smoking weed all day? Perception is only reality if you're too lazy (or high apparently?) to find out what reality actually is.
You would be very, very surprised if you realized how many moral, functioning, contributing members of society smoke weed every now and then. Do you think that people in CO and WA are just sitting around with no jobs, smoking weed all day? Perception is only reality if you're too lazy (or high apparently?) to find out what reality actually is.
No, I'm sure that people in CO and WA are gainfully employed in the cannabis distribution sector.
Gov't healthcare covers Diabeetus* & other obesity related illnesses. 8 quarter pounders is as self inflicting an indulgence as much as my smoking (normal tobacco) & drinking (piss poor domestic light beer).
Can`t believe not one person in this thread mentioned the biggest lobbyists against legalization. The cartels have serious money and are always looking for ways to launder it. Buying off our bogus assed "legislators" and "government officials" is a piece of cake for these guys as flush as they are with cash. I`ve got a friend who has a private firm that tracks "white collar" cartel and other illicit funds through our society. He tells me that you wouldn`t believe where the trails to some of this money leads. Based on what we`ve all seen in the last few months concerning all of our glorious politicians...think about it.
What difference does it make if the person who is criticizing the US is smoking a joint, drinking a beer, having a cup of coffee or smoking a cigarette? And why do you assume a 20 year old has contributed nothing to this country? What if that 20 year old is a Veteran? I'm gonna blow your mind here.... I've smoked a joint, with a Veteran while he bitched about misguided US foreign policy.
Are you fighting against the first amendment or the legalization of pot? I can't tell because it looks like you have created a weird correlation without causation scenario where in your theory people in their 20s who are seemingly law abiding, contributing members of society will become dissidents against the USA if they smoke pot.
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I think some of you have missed the point. I'm sure I've sat around with a cold one and bitched about US policy with a buddy on numerous occasions. The perception issue is with large groups of do nothing dope smokers back in the 60's and early 70's flag burning and po mouthing my Country. That's not propaganda, it's just the reality of what happened. I know the difference. Those scenes burned deep in the minds of a lot of my age group and created an attitude against dope.
I know a guy from Starkville who moved to CO, owns a legal pot farm and is making a good living selling it legally like any other farmer sells his crop. He's in his late 20s early 30s.
OK. Please explain to me why I'm the problem. I've expressed my opinion, I'm not a government employee, don't make legislation, don't go to rallies against pot. What problem am I?
I'm sorry, do you think pot was the cause of all that angst? Is that the reality? Or was it an accidental feature of the time and place that you have for some reason considered the essential feature? My perception is that you are supporting ****** conclusions with shittier premises; is that, therefore, the reality?
The reality, whether you like it or not, was that is what happened. The angst was probably driven by other factors but we know what we saw. Potheads burning the flag and bad mouthing the Country. You didn't see groups drinking beer doing the same. That's reality and perception.
I thought millennials were the worst generation this whole time, now I'm finding out it was the 20 year olds in the 60's and 70's!!!!
They're already planning on putting a 3rd podium up there. He's at or over the threshold in several states even if he's not that way nationally. Unfortunately, bible belt southerners are going to stand by Trump even though almost all of his major ideas call for heavy government intervention because they've been told to vote for him by their GOP masters.
Would love to see him on the main stage. He wouldn't win, but I'm ready for America to hear something different than the same garbage we hear from the republicans and dems these days. Even if he didn't win, a lot of entrenched republicans and democrats might just say "that guy makes a lot of sense" and demand a little movement in their own party. Lord knows we need it on both sides.
Schedule 1 is a wise decision....why...the kids. Scientific evidence in humans has found that if a pregnant woman smokes weed, the kid's mental capacity is altered even in adulthood. Scientific research in humans has also found that if an adolescence (teen) smokes weed, there are effects detectable on mental capacity once those teens become adults. Scientific animal studies back this up. Despite all the legalization efforts and their false claims, the government based their decision on the science.
For those who suggest that if we legalize it kids could not get it because it is that is against the law, that is insane. Alcohol has been illegal for minors for decades but I know I gave money to my older brother's friends to get me a six-pack when I was 15. Sitting at a red light in Starkvegas this week (freshmen are in town), I saw two dudes around the corner waiting. A guy walks out of the store hands them two cases of Coors Light and walks away. They celebrate. It would be the same thing with legalized weed but at the weed store.
A recent study reported that in states that had legalized marijuana for medical purposes, the incidence of exposure to children under the age of 5 increased 610% in the last 10 years and that is only the kids whose parents took them to the emergency room. That doesn't include kids in houses that smoke on a regular basis. This is a brand new exposure scenario.
If you are 25 or older and want to smoke a doobie, no problem....it only affects your motivation at high levels but generally no long term effects. However, at younger ages it will have some effects. The brain does not fully mature until age 25.
if you smoke on a regular basis, you start to hang around others who also do the same. Those people generally are in the drug culture and will get introduced to other stronger things. Weed is not a gateway drug but smoking weed on a regular basis puts you in a social ring where other things are present and social pressure can have an effect and make you more willing to try harder drugs. Social pressure is a ***** especially if your are a college student who feels invincible.
My qualifications....I have a PhD, I am a toxicologist, I study developmental neurotoxicology, and I have done studies on the effect of THC (active component of marijuana) on developing mammals on neurological function later in life. There are effects.
For those who suggest that if we legalize it kids could not get it because it is that is against the law, that is insane. Alcohol has been illegal for minors for decades but I know I gave money to my older brother's friends to get me a six-pack when I was 15. Sitting at a red light in Starkvegas this week (freshmen are in town), I saw two dudes around the corner waiting. A guy walks out of the store hands them two cases of Coors Light and walks away. They celebrate. It would be the same thing with legalized weed but at the weed store.
A recent study reported that in states that had legalized marijuana for medical purposes, the incidence of exposure to children under the age of 5 increased 610% in the last 10 years and that is only the kids whose parents took them to the emergency room. That doesn't include kids in houses that smoke on a regular basis. This is a brand new exposure scenario.
If you are 25 or older and want to smoke a doobie, no problem....it only affects your motivation at high levels but generally no long term effects. However, at younger ages it will have some effects. The brain does not fully mature until age 25.
if you smoke on a regular basis, you start to hang around others who also do the same. Those people generally are in the drug culture and will get introduced to other stronger things. Weed is not a gateway drug but smoking weed on a regular basis puts you in a social ring where other things are present and social pressure can have an effect and make you more willing to try harder drugs. Social pressure is a ***** especially if your are a college student who feels invincible.
My qualifications....I have a PhD, I am a toxicologist, I study developmental neurotoxicology, and I have done studies on the effect of THC (active component of marijuana) on developing mammals on neurological function later in life. There are effects.
Not that I agree or disagree with anything you're saying, weed is actually easier to get than alcohol since its illegal. No one asks for ID. Just show up with the cash and you're good. At the very least, the are minimal-ish obstacles stopping minors from purchasing alcohol. Semantics probably, but weed is easier to score than alcohol as a minor
So is your contention that alcohol and tobacco should also be Schedule 1 narcotics? Because both of those drugs also have effects that are just as harmful (if not more harmful) on a fetus if a pregnant woman consumes them or on an underaged / underdeveloped person. Yet, here we are with both of those legalized even though there are next to no potential medical benefits from either.
I don't doubt that your facts are accurate. But no one is saying that people should be able to smoke weed at any age or under any circumstance related to pregnancy. Most are only saying it should be classified under more lax guidelines by the DEA and law enforcement due to unanimously proven and acknowledged medical benefits (also, freaking cocaine is Schedule 2), and if it is legalized it should be regulated along the same lines as tobacco and alcohol.
Based on your username, I'd say you have a lot of scenes from the 70's burned in your mind.
Marijuana has definite long tern dilatory effects on the brain. It is a dangerous drug. Not an immediate danger. That being said, I think anything a person who wants to do something to themselves that does not adversely affect another against their will should not be illegal. If/when a method for immediate detection for impairment from marijuana use while driving is available then make it not illegal.
Nothing should be illegal that one does to themselves that doesn't adversely affect another against their will. The genetic pool could use some tweaking.
I have a lot of scenes from the 60's and 70's burned in my mind. And my user name implies where I live and nothing to do with that ghey band. I've stated my opinion. You can either agree or not. Don't matter to me. Time to put this one to bed.
Please present the case that alcohol should not also be schedule 1 based on affect to unborn children, and exposure to kids under 5.
The reason weed is a gateway drug is because it is illegal. The same guy you buy weed from also sells the harder stuff too. Not so in Colorado. You can only buy weed in the shop.
Only reason weed is illegal is Nixon suppressing the blacks and Hippies. http://cnn.it/1S78zkB
Read what the above article says.
The reason weed is a gateway drug is because it is illegal. The same guy you buy weed from also sells the harder stuff too. Not so in Colorado. You can only buy weed in the shop.
Only reason weed is illegal is Nixon suppressing the blacks and Hippies. http://cnn.it/1S78zkB
Read what the above article says.
Please present the case that alcohol should not also be schedule 1 based on affect to unborn children, and exposure to kids under 5.
The reason weed is a gateway drug is because it is illegal. The same guy you buy weed from also sells the harder stuff too. Not so in Colorado. You can only buy weed in the shop.
Only reason weed is illegal is Nixon suppressing the blacks and Hippies. http://cnn.it/1S78zkB
Read what the above article says.
The reason weed is a gateway drug is because it is illegal. The same guy you buy weed from also sells the harder stuff too. Not so in Colorado. You can only buy weed in the shop.
Only reason weed is illegal is Nixon suppressing the blacks and Hippies. http://cnn.it/1S78zkB
Read what the above article says.
All of them out there by the people in charge to stay in power.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum.
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Keep letting Nixon tell you what to do.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum.
"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
Keep letting Nixon tell you what to do.
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