OT - Uber, what's going on ?

AshCatchEm

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They are getting paid to drive and therefore are professional drivers. They are just independent contractors. FedEx uses owner operated subcontractors all the time for their ground service. Do you not consider them professional truck drivers? Should you give them a pass for poor driving?

I don't care if you drive for Uber 5 hours a week or 60 hours a week. The same standard of care and skill should be expected.
If you're getting an uber its for the price and you should expect what you pay for..a cheaper experience. So don't be surprised when the guy who randomly picked you up in his car seems like a beginner at driving people around.
 

Sweet Pea's Corner

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Also keep in mind in many jurisdiction including New York City Uber drivers get a print out of all their riders first and last name. In cabs the driver doesn't get the information especially if you pay cash. Just think about how easy it is to stalk someone if you have their name and where they work or go to school.
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This is false
I don't hets people's names. Sometimes when I accept a call it's a nickname
 

Abro1975

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We used Ubee 4-6 times a day in Orlando in June for the 4 of us to get back and forth from resort to parks and restaurants. Worked very well and extremely cheap. Much better then renting a car.

Haven't used it home in NJ yet.
 

TM514

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I prefer to ride in a vehicle with the roof mounted "Taxi" sign with the proper license plates and identification. If I want a stranger to pick me up, I'll hitch-hike down the road. Come to think of it, Uber is basically a virtual, internet hitchhiking experience. Hope your driver has good intentions.
 

RUsSKii

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No they aren't. Yellow cabs drive like huge a-holes. I hope Uber/Lyft and Get send those guys straight to unemployment.

To be fair, as a pedestrian/cyclist I've dealt with plenty of TLC-plated vehicles in Manhattan (mostly Toyota Camrys & GMC Yukon Denalis who carry Uber/Lyft lights for pick-ups on the side) driven by absolute jackasses. It does seem like a close call between them and yellow cabs as to who drives worse in the borough nowadays.
 
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RUschool

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To be fair, I've seen plenty of TLC-plated vehicles in Manhattan (mostly Toyota Camrys & GMC Yukon Denalis who carry Uber/Lyft lights for pick-ups on the side) driven by absolute jackasses. It does seem like a close call between them and yellow cabs as to who drives worse nowadays.
Just six months ago, 100% endorsement of Uber on this board and now it's about 50% endorsement. It won't be long before the service gets worse.
 

RUfromSoCal?

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But, but, but, uber is a technology company on the interwebs..... They just want goodness for us little people.
 

FanuSanu52

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Just six months ago, 100% endorsement of Uber on this board and now it's about 50% endorsement. It won't be long before the service gets worse.

I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion. This thread was structured for complaints, and it's still 50/50, according to you. It's also perfectly possible that Uber will improve things moving forward, even if it means increasing pricing.

People act like low prices are the only selling point, but Uber-type services have solved many of the problems and headaches of traditional taxis. The biggest advantage, imo, is having a price up front, so you know exactly how much the trip is going to cost - instead of having to worry about how far the meter will run. A lower price is nice, but paying a single price ahead of time is even nicer. It's also removed the headache of having to find a taxi service in an area you're unfamiliar with, having to try to explain where you are in said unfamiliar place and having to wait god knows how long for a taxi to arrive (I've waited for hours in the past).
 

mdk02

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Are you surprised? It is an unregulated transportation industry. As it continues to expand more and more problems are going to appear. The company also has already said they are no way liable for their own contractors behavior. My biggest concern is privacy. They track people where ever they go. They have already had problems with employees accessing individuals movement for non work related items. They publically posted data on one night stands on their blog. Do you really trust a company with that level of maturity with a family members information?


Ever ridden in a Yellow Cab in Manhattan?
 

newell138

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I drive for and I use the service. Its a great way to make extra $$, at least down in South Jersey where the rates are still decent at $1.75 per mile. I use the service most weekends when we go out to happy hour or dinner and the convenience cant be beat. Push a button and within 3 minutes my ride is waiting for me. During the summer I drove about 3 nights during the week and was making about $350/week including tips, not bad for a part time job, and its fun. I have met some very interesting people along the way.
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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Who told you that nonsense? Uber isn't giving anyone a print out of riders names. As a driver you only know their first name, that's it. You don't get their phone # or their last name
You don't get names because where you drive in southern New jersey and they are not required to. In other areas you are required. So a customer unless familiar with local laws have no way of determining if that the case.
 

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I'm not sure how you draw that conclusion. This thread was structured for complaints, and it's still 50/50, according to you. It's also perfectly possible that Uber will improve things moving forward, even if it means increasing pricing.

People act like low prices are the only selling point, but Uber-type services have solved many of the problems and headaches of traditional taxis. The biggest advantage, imo, is having a price up front, so you know exactly how much the trip is going to cost - instead of having to worry about how far the meter will run. A lower price is nice, but paying a single price ahead of time is even nicer. It's also removed the headache of having to find a taxi service in an area you're unfamiliar with, having to try to explain where you are in said unfamiliar place and having to wait god knows how long for a taxi to arrive (I've waited for hours in the past).
I'm in here with a complaint but I'll still use Uber over a taxi for the foreseeable future. I can't even imagine how far it would have to decline in order for me to choose a cab over Uber, because at the end of the day, it will still be much cheaper. At least Uber drivers aren't talking on the phone like cabbies do for the entirety of their shifts.
 
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MADHAT1

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West Virginia has the best Uber satisfaction rating :
 
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KeithK7624

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I prefer uber... The drivers tend to be more friendly, the cars are 10x nicer, and the rate is half. I'm surprised local taxi companies are still in business. As a millennial most of us don't carry cash so it makes it even more easy. I get that some older board members prefer a taxi for comfort, safety, etc but the younger generation prefers convenience. For me it's more efficient to call one then walk out when it's here. If I hail a cab I have to wait and if I call for one in more rural areas it takes forever
 
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S_Janowski

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Just six months ago, 100% endorsement of Uber on this board and now it's about 50% endorsement. It won't be long before the service gets worse.

Actually in that last thread I said I've noticed a significant drop off in the quality of service but I seemed to be the only one. I've used Uber for the past 3 years in Philly and both the quality of cars and drivers have slowly declined.

Interesting to see how many people feels the same after such a short period of time.

At this point I still prefer using it over cabs though.
 

Rokodesh

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you almost have to be suicidal to get into a yellow cab in new york. Smells like ****, guy doesn't speak a word of English, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I've had one bad Uber ride where the guy was driving too fast and nearly ran a stop sign, other than that it's been much better
 

megadrone

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You can also give the driver a bad rating from what I recall. Too many bad ratings and the driver doesn't get riders.
 

KevH

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Uber drivers try to chat too much. Shut the F up and drive.

Lol! I try to take the cue from the rider. If they get in the car and are busy staring at their phone or otherwise occupied, I take that as a sign that they're not in a chatty mood. I also usually let them initiate any casual conversation if they want. I do find that most of my tips have come after some really cool conversations (which don't usually happen on short rides). Maybe the drivers you've had were working that angle?
 
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To be fair, as a pedestrian/cyclist I've dealt with plenty of TLC-plated vehicles in Manhattan (mostly Toyota Camrys & GMC Yukon Denalis who carry Uber/Lyft lights for pick-ups on the side) driven by absolute jackasses. It does seem like a close call between them and yellow cabs as to who drives worse in the borough nowadays.

They are also in NJ going to EWR and the offices in the Morristown area and it is unbelievable how bad they are and how often they are on the phone.
 
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I had $3 Uberpools at the shore this summer and a $50 ride from JFK to JC...they can chat and drive fast all day as far as I am concerned
 

terrehawk

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Say what you will about uber drivers, I've never seen one suddenly slam the brakes and pull to the side of the road to block in another driver's vehicle and confront/get into a shouting match, while I'm yelling at the driver "LET'S GO!"

I've never gotten grease stains on my pants from the seat of an uber car.

I've never had to hold my nose for the whole trip for the terrible smells in an uber car.

I've never had to pay $60 for an uber car from the airport (just $18).

These things have only happened in Newark Airport cabs. Really I'd not be sad to see traditional taxis go the way of the fax machine.
I agree I've used Uber in New York Seattle Minneapolis Chicago Indianapolis New Orleans and des Moines and never had any issues.

Every car has been pretty new if not brand new very well maintained with no smells or stains the drivers have all been polite and the best part is there's no exchange of money whatsoever it's all done on an app on my phone

The only issue I've had is twice i cancelled Uber ride and they charged me anyway but there's a button that you click to dispute and I immediately got an email resolving the matter.

Lastly the price difference is huge between the two. I've literally saved hundreds of dollars by using Uber vs. Cab service. At JFK a cab driver wanted like fifty bucks to take us to a hotel less than 2 miles away uber did it for 10
 
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ScarletDave

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Switched to Lyft this summer. Have used it in Los Angeles, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, and Seattle. Way way better than Uber
 

Caliknight

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Have seen more of my circle switch to Lyft. Seems less expensive and slightly better service from my perspective.
 

terrehawk

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Who told you that nonsense? Uber isn't giving anyone a print out of riders names. As a driver you only know their first name, that's it. You don't get their phone # or their last name
Lots of pro union leftists constantly find any way they can to trash organizations like uber simply for political reasons. They make things up and stretch the truth all the time.
 

terrehawk

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You don't get names because where you drive in southern New jersey and they are not required to. In other areas you are required. So a customer unless familiar with local laws have no way of determining if that the case.
So as usual, government involvement is causing huge issues and in this case actually lending to a safety issue. No surprise.
 

RUfromNJ

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I'm in here with a complaint but I'll still use Uber over a taxi for the foreseeable future. I can't even imagine how far it would have to decline in order for me to choose a cab over Uber, because at the end of the day, it will still be much cheaper. At least Uber drivers aren't talking on the phone like cabbies do for the entirety of their shifts.
+1.
 

MADHAT1

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So as usual, government involvement is causing huge issues and in this case actually lending to a safety issue. No surprise.
Where the government, be it state or fed, should be involved is in making sure anyone that drives for outfits like Uber and Lyft have adequate auto insurance that will be in effect when they are using their vehicles as Uber/Lyft drivers in case someone falls getting in or out of their car or they are involved in an accident driving a customer to their destination.
 

megadrone

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Where the government, be it state or fed, should be involved is in making sure anyone that drives for outfits like Uber and Lyft have adequate auto insurance that will be in effect when they are using their vehicles as Uber/Lyft drivers in case someone falls getting in or out of their car or they are involved in an accident driving a customer to their destination.

The situation that you're looking at is a little different. Theoretically, Uber drivers are covered by Uber's insurance from the time of pickup to the time of dropoff. In most cases that's a good thing -- and here, Uber is more than just a software service or marketplace.

What isn't really clear is if a driver's personal policy would cover them if/when using the car for commercial purposes. As an Uber independent contractor, it's commercial use (for the most part).

At some point, an accident will happen where the responsibility is in question. If it's enough of a tragedy, the government will step in.
 

MADHAT1

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The situation that you're looking at is a little different. Theoretically, Uber drivers are covered by Uber's insurance from the time of pickup to the time of dropoff. In most cases that's a good thing -- and here, Uber is more than just a software service or marketplace.

What isn't really clear is if a driver's personal policy would cover them if/when using the car for commercial purposes. As an Uber independent contractor, it's commercial use (for the most part).

At some point, an accident will happen where the responsibility is in question. If it's enough of a tragedy, the government will step in.
The tradagy would be if the passenger was injured and the Uber driver's auto insurance company didn't cover him while driving for Uber
If Uber doesn't cover their independent contractors , the government must set insurance rules ( if Uber doesn't) to make sure the Uber/Lyft passengers are protected.

I'm sure passenger protection is already in effect, but every Uber/Lyft driver should
prove that they have auto insurance that is valid while they are driving as Uber/Lyft sub contractors to the agency that regulates transportation and Uber/Lyft must be held responsible if one of their independent sub- contractors doesn't have sufficient insurance protection.
 

Abro1975

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I would think (but not sure) IF an Uber or lyft driver had no insurance (eg expired a few days earlier), then Uber or Lyft 's insurance company would have to be the fall back to pay the claim in case of injury due to driver's fault.

Without that clause, I doubt any state would let them operate.
 

KevH

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I would think (but not sure) IF an Uber or lyft driver had no insurance (eg expired a few days earlier), then Uber or Lyft 's insurance company would have to be the fall back to pay the claim in case of injury due to driver's fault.

Without that clause, I doubt any state would let them operate.

Uber doesn't allow its drivers to go "online" without having up-to-date docs (license, insurance, registration) on file. After being locked out the last time, I'm going to set reminders on my phone to upload the renewed docs ahead of time so they have a day or two to process them.
 

newell138

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Have seen more of my circle switch to Lyft. Seems less expensive and slightly better service from my perspective.

Ironically at least here in NJ, most of those Lyft drivers performing "better service" are also Uber drivers. Its quite common for drivers to be running both apps at the same time and if they get a ping on one, just turn the other off until the ride is complete.
 

newell138

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Uber doesn't allow its drivers to go "online" without having up-to-date docs (license, insurance, registration) on file. After being locked out the last time, I'm going to set reminders on my phone to upload the renewed docs ahead of time so they have a day or two to process them.

Same thing happened to me, I also set the reminder option, which just kicked in last week.