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Curby

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
 

horshack.sixpack

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
I've had Samsung, LG, Vizio and Sony. Sony Bravia>LG>Vizio>Samsung.
 

Seinfeld

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
I got an LG OLED last Fall, and it’s without a doubt the best picture that I’ve ever had as long as my wife stops messing with the settings. I will say that I had to submit a warranty claim < 6 months in due to there being a line in the screen, but they sent a tech out within a week to fix it, so I can’t complain too much.

I’ve had 3-4 Vizios in my life, and my experience with them is kinda like a laptop. Works just fine for a couple years, starts slowing down in year 3, and then it’s practically unusable after that. I’ve got one on the back porch right now that I can’t wait to replace because it’s so dang slow
 
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dawgstudent

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
I've had the same TV (Samsung) for 12 years.

As much of a shock it is to everyone, I only have 10 TV's.**
 

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I upgraded to a Sony Bravia about seven years ago, and it has been a game changer. A few years later, I needed a bigger TV for my living room, so I bought another Sony Bravia and moved the first one to the bedroom.


They are amazing TVs with great color. They are not cheap, but they are worth every penny. Avoid the tempting deals and cheap routes. Both of my Sonys are still going strong, and I expect them to last around 10 years.


My dad is a perfect example. He bought a TV on sale during Black Friday around the same time I bought my first Sony. He even made fun of me for spending more instead of taking the “better deal.” Since then, he has had to buy two more replacement TVs. Now he has a Sony Bravia too.


Turns out, I had the better deal all along.
 
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The Peeper

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I've had the same TV (Samsung) for 12 years.

As much of a shock it is to everyone, I only have 10 TV's.**

There was a guy in Starkville WalMart last Friday buying 2 new Samsung 85" ones, I thought for sure it was you!

He told the guy wheeling them out for him lighting struck his house and he was replacing the old ones
 

patdog

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I upgraded to a Sony Bravia about seven years ago, and it has been a game changer. A few years later, I needed a bigger TV for my living room, so I bought another Sony Bravia and moved the first one to the bedroom.


They are amazing TVs with great color. They are not cheap, but they are worth every penny. Avoid the tempting deals and cheap routes. Both of my Sonys are still going strong, and I expect them to last around 10 years.


My dad is a perfect example. He bought a TV on sale during Black Friday around the same time I bought my first Sony. He even made fun of me for spending more instead of taking the “better deal.” Since then, he has had to buy two more replacement TVs. Now he has a Sony Bravia too.


Turns out, I had the better deal all along.
This is the best advice. Not necessarily just the Sony Bravia. But you really do get what you pay for. Cheaper in the short term isn't necessarily cheaper in the long term. And it's lower quality.
 
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FormerBully

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This is the best advice. Not necessarily just the Sony Bravia. But you really do get what you pay for. Cheaper in the short term isn't necessarily cheaper in the long term. And it's lower quality.
Exactly, I talked to a few people, and they all told me the same thing. You are not getting a deal on a cheap TV or on a TV on sale. There is a reason it is called Black Friday; companies go from red to black on that day.
 
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MaxwellSmart

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We've had better luck with Samsung than any other TV brand. I've got one outside on my patio that I don't even cover anymore. It may die tomorrow but it still looks new.
 
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Hisense 100” MINI LED at Costco $1699 w/5yr warranty. Mini LED brighter than OLED and almost as good w/black background. Runs google tv software but I prefer Roku ultra device. Brilliant setup if u have a wall for it
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I have everything running through our Fire TV Stick. It updates, and the LG TV works.

ETA- Sorry, it is a TCL Smart. But it works fine. Never use the built-in apps.
 
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Sony. I was in a TV repair store recently. I asked the repairman which brand to buy. He said Sony. He said "see all these TVs? How many do you think are Sonys?". I didn't know. He said "none of them".
 
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Ive been buying Insignia's lately w/ Fire tv software. Got one outside and inside with no issues in 5 years. No complaints.
 

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
I have a sour opinion of smart TVs with apps. Well, at least Visio. My parents have a smart Visio TV and their TV streaming app has a glitch in it. It shows the correct time on the guide in the morning... but for some reason the guide shows the wrong time and skips forward about 5 hours in the evening. The entire thing would probably be fixed by a simple download of an update and a restart. Guess what you cannot do? Yep, manually download an update.

I could have fixed it in 5 minutes on my Apple TV.
 
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My brother still has a huge plasma screen I found at dirt cheap 15 years ago. It still has a better picture than any of the new smart tv’s I’ve seen. Football on that tv is awesome
 
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DawgNsuds

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I just want someone to make entering passwords or searching long titles such as "Mississippi State" easier.

Hell, assigning letters to the number pad, like how we used to send texts in the olden days, would be an improvement on the current interface for this process.
the TV's that I have use a QR Code for this and/or voice recognition
 

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Sony. I was in a TV repair store recently. I asked the repairman which brand to buy. He said Sony. He said "see all these TVs? How many do you think are Sonys?". I didn't know. He said "none of them".
There is a TV repair store?...in the US?...that isnt also part of a money laundering system or human trafficking network?
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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Sony. I was in a TV repair store recently. I asked the repairman which brand to buy. He said Sony. He said "see all these TVs? How many do you think are Sonys?". I didn't know. He said "none of them".
My SIL has a Sony. Been rocking for over 10 years and looks great. I want a Sony next time I buy.
 

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I've had good luck with Sony's my whole life starting with this bad boy (a "Trinitron") when we got married in 1979. Current main TV is a 65 Sony and it's been problem free for 9 years now. Actually still have the first flat screen we ever bought in one of the guest rooms (a whopping 32in Sony around 2005 complete with the 2in frame). Put a Roku stick in it and still looks great.
That said, have also had several brands on the other end of the scale including 2 Sceptre for several years that have been fine. Certainly not buying a Sony to put outside and still amazes me how long those super cheap TV hold up in the elements. Never covered, 10-95 degrees, heavy dew, pollen/dirt, bird nests ... hit the on button and there it is.
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MSUDOG24

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There is a TV repair store?...in the US?...that isnt also part of a money laundering system or human trafficking network?
Louisville KY and find myself wondering about the "story" every time I go past it when we are up visiting the grands. I'm stopping one of these days to ask.
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My personal experience with Samsung appliances / electronics is below.

TLDR version: 17 Samsung sideways, with a lunchbox. Heard of planned obsolescence? They’ve perfected it. They literally want their shít to breakdown within 5 years and be completely unrepairable, so you’ll buy a new whatever if you liked the experience otherwise. You aren’t buying their products, you are leasing them for 5 years, and each day you get beyond that is a gift from the gods.

1) 50” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2018. Middle of 2023, it turned on and was working fine, all the sudden I heard a tiny electrical explosion inside, tiny stream of black smoke started coming from the vent in the rear. It never turned on again. Was told by every TV repairman I called that it would be a minimum of $300-$400 just to fix it, if they even could diagnose and get OEM parts, and there’d be no warranty. So, it was obviously put out by the road.

Total life 4 years 8 months.

2) 65” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2019 while TV #1 was alive and well. Early 2024, the TV somehow disconnected from the house wi-fi. Nothing could get it to reconnect, so I looked online for advice, and then followed a few recommendations to do a factory reset. Did the reset, and started going through the initial tutorial when setting it up (like it was brand new).

At step 3 or 4, there was a step where it walked you through adjusting the volume. It had small PIP in center with whatever was coming through the antenna playing, it said “push ^ or v on remote to adjust the volume”. Pushing these buttons did nothing to change the volume, nor could you advance forward or backwards to other steps with the remote OR the hardwired buttons on the TV itself. Changed batteries in remote, still nothing. New remote, still nothing.

Turned off and back on again at TV…..still stuck on same step itutorial. Completely unplugged it for hours….plugged it back in….turned on. Still stuck. Called repairmen and looked online. Everyone was clueless. Remembering my experience from #1, I knew where this was headed. It was ripped off the wall and taken to the road with extreme prejudice.

Total life 4 years 6 months.

3) Top load Washing machine - purchased mid-2019. Middle of 2025, it started jumping all over the laundry room and faulting out due to being out of balance about once every three loads. Clothes had to be nearly perfectly balanced for this to not happen, so we started doing that when loading. Sept / Oct, started doing it over half the time. By November 2025 it was every time.

Did research online and went through multiple troubleshooting steps, checked sensors, leveled the tub and washer many times. Eventually narrowed down to the suspension rods being worn. YouTubed how to replace, looked pretty easy. Went to go order OEM set of suspension rods….they checked in at a cool $450 before shipping. For a washer that was about $600 brand new. No thanks.

Total life: About 5 years

4) Dryer - Purchased mid-2019 at same time as the washer above. For anyone who knows appliances, a dryer is about the most simple 17ing thing you can get as far as general function, repairability, and reliability. Any brand you’ve ever heard of should last 8-10 years with minimum without ANY problems. November 2025, literally the very first load of laundry in my NEW washer that replaced the POS Samsung, load goes in dryer and runs for an hour. Cycle ends. Clothes feel the same way they did when they went in. Ran it again. 5 minutes in, opened the door. No heat whatsoever. Heating element had failed. This one was a more fortunate outcome than the other 3 above. Was able to get a new element for $50, but still cost me a whole Saturday to get it swapped out. Had I not been handy and gotten a repairman to do it instead, would have easily been $300, probably using some aftermarket piece of crap replacement, and I’d have opted for a new dryer instead, most likely.

Total life: 5 years before major repair needed.

Non-Samsung appliances and electronics I’ve purchased:

Early 2012 - 55” Panasonic Viera Plasma TV. Still sitting in my bedroom to this day. Works great.

2007 - 30” Vizio LCD. No issues. In storage somewhere now, but never had a problem.

2008 - 46” Sony Bravia LCD TV. Lasted until late 2018, over 10 years.

2015 - LG stainless steel French Door Refrigerator. Some minor issues with water dispenser, but still in my kitchen. Have never had to call a repairman or replace any parts. 11 years so far.

2023 - 75” Sony Bravia LED. Great TV so far. No issues in 3 years.

2024 - 40” Hisense LED TV for my son. No issues.

GE Profile Oven x2 - one in each house. No issues in over 10 years combined.

GE Profile Dishwasher (x2) - First one in old house ran great for 3 years before we sold the house. 2nd one in current house ran great for 4 years. Never had functional issue, but did spring a leak from a pump line that damaged our floors.

Bosch dishwasher. 2024 (replaced the 2nd GE above). Most fantastic, high performing kitchen appliance I’ve ever owned.

Overall, will never buy anything Samsung ever again. Will also not buy anything except Bosch, LG, or Whirlpool / Maytag for anything that has water running through it. TV’s, I’m sticking with Sony for high end living room or theater room, TCL or Hisense everywhere else.
 

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Bought a Samsung 55" 1080p LED TV in 2014; still running fine today. Bought a Samsung 65" 4K TV in 2017; still running fine today. Bought a Samsung 55" 4K OLED TV last December; yes, still running fine today. Bunch of whiny haters up in here.
 
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My personal experience with Samsung appliances / electronics is below.

TLDR version: 17 Samsung sideways, with a lunchbox. Heard of planned obsolescence? They’ve perfected it. They literally want their shít to breakdown within 5 years and be completely unrepairable, so you’ll buy a new whatever if you liked the experience otherwise. You aren’t buying their products, you are leasing them for 5 years, and each day you get beyond that is a gift from the gods.

1) 50” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2018. Middle of 2023, it turned on and was working fine, all the sudden I heard a tiny electrical explosion inside, tiny stream of black smoke started coming from the vent in the rear. It never turned on again. Was told by every TV repairman I called that it would be a minimum of $300-$400 just to fix it, if they even could diagnose and get OEM parts, and there’d be no warranty. So, it was obviously put out by the road.

Total life 4 years 8 months.

2) 65” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2019 while TV #1 was alive and well. Early 2024, the TV somehow disconnected from the house wi-fi. Nothing could get it to reconnect, so I looked online for advice, and then followed a few recommendations to do a factory reset. Did the reset, and started going through the initial tutorial when setting it up (like it was brand new).

At step 3 or 4, there was a step where it walked you through adjusting the volume. It had small PIP in center with whatever was coming through the antenna playing, it said “push ^ or v on remote to adjust the volume”. Pushing these buttons did nothing to change the volume, nor could you advance forward or backwards to other steps with the remote OR the hardwired buttons on the TV itself. Changed batteries in remote, still nothing. New remote, still nothing.

Turned off and back on again at TV…..still stuck on same step itutorial. Completely unplugged it for hours….plugged it back in….turned on. Still stuck. Called repairmen and looked online. Everyone was clueless. Remembering my experience from #1, I knew where this was headed. It was ripped off the wall and taken to the road with extreme prejudice.

Total life 4 years 6 months.

3) Top load Washing machine - purchased mid-2019. Middle of 2025, it started jumping all over the laundry room and faulting out due to being out of balance about once every three loads. Clothes had to be nearly perfectly balanced for this to not happen, so we started doing that when loading. Sept / Oct, started doing it over half the time. By November 2025 it was every time.

Did research online and went through multiple troubleshooting steps, checked sensors, leveled the tub and washer many times. Eventually narrowed down to the suspension rods being worn. YouTubed how to replace, looked pretty easy. Went to go order OEM set of suspension rods….they checked in at a cool $450 before shipping. For a washer that was about $600 brand new. No thanks.

Total life: About 5 years

4) Dryer - Purchased mid-2019 at same time as the washer above. For anyone who knows appliances, a dryer is about the most simple 17ing thing you can get as far as general function, repairability, and reliability. Any brand you’ve ever heard of should last 8-10 years with minimum without ANY problems. November 2025, literally the very first load of laundry in my NEW washer that replaced the POS Samsung, load goes in dryer and runs for an hour. Cycle ends. Clothes feel the same way they did when they went in. Ran it again. 5 minutes in, opened the door. No heat whatsoever. Heating element had failed. This one was a more fortunate outcome than the other 3 above. Was able to get a new element for $50, but still cost me a whole Saturday to get it swapped out. Had I not been handy and gotten a repairman to do it instead, would have easily been $300, probably using some aftermarket piece of crap replacement, and I’d have opted for a new dryer instead, most likely.

Total life: 5 years before major repair needed.

Non-Samsung appliances and electronics I’ve purchased:

Early 2012 - 55” Panasonic Viera Plasma TV. Still sitting in my bedroom to this day. Works great.

2007 - 30” Vizio LCD. No issues. In storage somewhere now, but never had a problem.

2008 - 46” Sony Bravia LCD TV. Lasted until late 2018, over 10 years.

2015 - LG stainless steel French Door Refrigerator. Some minor issues with water dispenser, but still in my kitchen. Have never had to call a repairman or replace any parts. 11 years so far.

2023 - 75” Sony Bravia LED. Great TV so far. No issues in 3 years.

2024 - 40” Hisense LED TV for my son. No issues.

GE Profile Oven x2 - one in each house. No issues in over 10 years combined.

GE Profile Dishwasher (x2) - First one in old house ran great for 3 years before we sold the house. 2nd one in current house ran great for 4 years. Never had functional issue, but did spring a leak from a pump line that damaged our floors.

Bosch dishwasher. 2024 (replaced the 2nd GE above). Most fantastic, high performing kitchen appliance I’ve ever owned.

Overall, will never buy anything Samsung ever again. Will also not buy anything except Bosch, LG, or Whirlpool / Maytag for anything that has water running through it. TV’s, I’m sticking with Sony for high end living room or theater room, TCL or Hisense everywhere else.
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My personal experience with Samsung appliances / electronics is below.

TLDR version: 17 Samsung sideways, with a lunchbox. Heard of planned obsolescence? They’ve perfected it. They literally want their shít to breakdown within 5 years and be completely unrepairable, so you’ll buy a new whatever if you liked the experience otherwise. You aren’t buying their products, you are leasing them for 5 years, and each day you get beyond that is a gift from the gods.

1) 50” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2018. Middle of 2023, it turned on and was working fine, all the sudden I heard a tiny electrical explosion inside, tiny stream of black smoke started coming from the vent in the rear. It never turned on again. Was told by every TV repairman I called that it would be a minimum of $300-$400 just to fix it, if they even could diagnose and get OEM parts, and there’d be no warranty. So, it was obviously put out by the road.

Total life 4 years 8 months.

2) 65” QLED TV - Purchased in late 2019 while TV #1 was alive and well. Early 2024, the TV somehow disconnected from the house wi-fi. Nothing could get it to reconnect, so I looked online for advice, and then followed a few recommendations to do a factory reset. Did the reset, and started going through the initial tutorial when setting it up (like it was brand new).

At step 3 or 4, there was a step where it walked you through adjusting the volume. It had small PIP in center with whatever was coming through the antenna playing, it said “push ^ or v on remote to adjust the volume”. Pushing these buttons did nothing to change the volume, nor could you advance forward or backwards to other steps with the remote OR the hardwired buttons on the TV itself. Changed batteries in remote, still nothing. New remote, still nothing.

Turned off and back on again at TV…..still stuck on same step itutorial. Completely unplugged it for hours….plugged it back in….turned on. Still stuck. Called repairmen and looked online. Everyone was clueless. Remembering my experience from #1, I knew where this was headed. It was ripped off the wall and taken to the road with extreme prejudice.

Total life 4 years 6 months.

3) Top load Washing machine - purchased mid-2019. Middle of 2025, it started jumping all over the laundry room and faulting out due to being out of balance about once every three loads. Clothes had to be nearly perfectly balanced for this to not happen, so we started doing that when loading. Sept / Oct, started doing it over half the time. By November 2025 it was every time.

Did research online and went through multiple troubleshooting steps, checked sensors, leveled the tub and washer many times. Eventually narrowed down to the suspension rods being worn. YouTubed how to replace, looked pretty easy. Went to go order OEM set of suspension rods….they checked in at a cool $450 before shipping. For a washer that was about $600 brand new. No thanks.

Total life: About 5 years

4) Dryer - Purchased mid-2019 at same time as the washer above. For anyone who knows appliances, a dryer is about the most simple 17ing thing you can get as far as general function, repairability, and reliability. Any brand you’ve ever heard of should last 8-10 years with minimum without ANY problems. November 2025, literally the very first load of laundry in my NEW washer that replaced the POS Samsung, load goes in dryer and runs for an hour. Cycle ends. Clothes feel the same way they did when they went in. Ran it again. 5 minutes in, opened the door. No heat whatsoever. Heating element had failed. This one was a more fortunate outcome than the other 3 above. Was able to get a new element for $50, but still cost me a whole Saturday to get it swapped out. Had I not been handy and gotten a repairman to do it instead, would have easily been $300, probably using some aftermarket piece of crap replacement, and I’d have opted for a new dryer instead, most likely.

Total life: 5 years before major repair needed.

Non-Samsung appliances and electronics I’ve purchased:

Early 2012 - 55” Panasonic Viera Plasma TV. Still sitting in my bedroom to this day. Works great.

2007 - 30” Vizio LCD. No issues. In storage somewhere now, but never had a problem.

2008 - 46” Sony Bravia LCD TV. Lasted until late 2018, over 10 years.

2015 - LG stainless steel French Door Refrigerator. Some minor issues with water dispenser, but still in my kitchen. Have never had to call a repairman or replace any parts. 11 years so far.

2023 - 75” Sony Bravia LED. Great TV so far. No issues in 3 years.

2024 - 40” Hisense LED TV for my son. No issues.

GE Profile Oven x2 - one in each house. No issues in over 10 years combined.

GE Profile Dishwasher (x2) - First one in old house ran great for 3 years before we sold the house. 2nd one in current house ran great for 4 years. Never had functional issue, but did spring a leak from a pump line that damaged our floors.

Bosch dishwasher. 2024 (replaced the 2nd GE above). Most fantastic, high performing kitchen appliance I’ve ever owned.

Overall, will never buy anything Samsung ever again. Will also not buy anything except Bosch, LG, or Whirlpool / Maytag for anything that has water running through it. TV’s, I’m sticking with Sony for high end living room or theater room, TCL or Hisense everywhere else.
Second on the Bosch dishwasher. They're good.
 
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RocketDawg

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
I had the same problem with a Samsung. Then went to LG, and had two problems (total failure of the screen - they call it a panel - and really bad screen burn in). I now have a Sony Bravia that's doing better but still has some burnin. You should stay away from OLED. I think QLED is the way to go and now there is a QLED Neo that has a great picture. The last one I saw was a 79" in Costco that cost $1000. It was a Samsung, but I don't think there are any brands that are invulnerable. They're just throw away items these days.

Or get a Vizio or some other cheap brand.
 

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My Samsung 65" went out after only about 6 years. Not completely, but a shaded vertical section about midway across the screen.

Think I want to move away from Samsung products...maybe LG or Vizio.

What is a reliable big flat screen with apps already on it, that has a great picture and might last?
Just bought a 58” Hinese Roku for $240 and surprisingly has a great picture, good sound and easy to navigate.
 

GloryDawg

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I have a 40" Toshiba that is 16 years old and works like new and I have a 65" Hisense that is now 8 years old and works like new. I really don't think it's the brand, it's the TV, where, who and when it was built. TVs are so cheap now it really doesn't matter. One TV is Japanese's or Korean and the other is Chinese.