I just found a gps tracking device on my cousins car, we are fairly positive that it was planted by her ex husband. Does anyone know how I could go about finding out for sure who it's registered to?
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I just found a gps tracking device on my cousins car, we are fairly positive that it was planted by her ex husband. Does anyone know how I could go about finding out for sure who it's registered to?
I just found a gps tracking device on my cousins car, we are fairly positive that it was planted by her ex husband. Does anyone know how I could go about finding out for sure who it's registered to?
especially since you can buy that stuff of the internet these days from several different stores all around the country. what's the brand and model? i know in our company we keep logs of all our gps devices by serial number and who they are sent to. so that might be a good place to start if you can find out who sells that model. they might could tell you who they sold that model too.
I was afraid of that though, just was hoping there was a way to track the owner, kinda like a reverse cell phone lookup or something.
...then you can face charges for messing with it. BS charges, but when does that ever stop them? Hindering prosecution as a felony has become their go-to weapon of late, since the MS legislature added it as an option.
You can try asking the cops if it's theirs, but i have no idea if they would even tell you. Now that you've posted about it on the internet, i wouldn't mess with it, as you've pissed away your ignorance argument. I would just take it to the police and (assuming the ex-husband doesn't own the car) demand an investigation.Probably nothing would come of it, but in cases like thisthings tend to keep happening, and the case builds over time.
The US SC did recently rule against warrantless GPS tracking, so if it's the police then they need a warrant. Maybe they would tell you there's no active warrant against your cousin, after which you can safely conclude it's not a police tracker.
Hiring a PI is another way to go, as they would actually attempt to track the owner while the police probably wouldn't, but that's a $ question.
You can try asking the cops if it's theirs, but i have no idea if they would even tell you. Now that you've posted about it on the internet, i wouldn't mess with it, as you've pissed away your ignorance argument. I would just take it to the police and (assuming the ex-husband doesn't own the car) demand an investigation.Probably nothing would come of it, but in cases like thisthings tend to keep happening, and the case builds over time.
The US SC did recently rule against warrantless GPS tracking, so if it's the police then they need a warrant. Maybe they would tell you there's no active warrant against your cousin, after which you can safely conclude it's not a police tracker.
Hiring a PI is another way to go, as they would actually attempt to track the owner while the police probably wouldn't, but that's a $ question.
seriously wonder who the hell is tracking him. Either way its win win, unless of course you got caught planting it.
You could also be putting your sister into a pretty dangerous situation. They guy's already unstable enough to plant a GPS device on her car. That's not a good sign to begin with. I think I'd just go to the cops and advise to her to seriously think about getting a restraining order and pay extra attention to any signs of danger.
I know a very shady used car dealer in Gulfport that places them on the cars. He uses them to track the car down in the event that payments stop and they need to repossess the vehicle. Once the car is paid completely ("buy here, pay here") he offers a free full car detailing, at which time he removes the device without anybody knowing.
I don't like it. I say send it with the trucker.
I don't like it. I say send it with the trucker.
don't put it back on his car. If he's got mental issues (and he could if he's doing all of this), it might make him start thinking she's infatuated with him or something. I don't know, that's pretty creepy stuff and doesn't sound very safe.<div>
</div><div>I like the idea of putting it on a truck heading out, but again, I'd make sure there weren't mental issues there. The safest thing to do is probably the police, even though they won't do much about it more than likely.</div>
</div><div>I like the idea of putting it on a truck heading out, but again, I'd make sure there weren't mental issues there. The safest thing to do is probably the police, even though they won't do much about it more than likely.</div>
and tell them whatshe found andthat she is concerned that someone is following her. Let them tell you the next step. At minimum get a report filed so that way you have some evidence that the device was placed on her vehicle. If it is her ex-husband then he has taken a big step in tracking her actions andis obviously disturbed/obsessed.
How could one face charges for removing it when you have no way of knowing they planted it?
Even if a person knew full well law enforcement put it there I don't see how they could stop anyone who has not been convicted, charged with a crime, or served with a warrant from removing something like that from their own personal property.
Even if a person knew full well law enforcement put it there I don't see how they could stop anyone who has not been convicted, charged with a crime, or served with a warrant from removing something like that from their own personal property.
and i deal with a lot of gps devices. appears that this company is based out of China. thismodel actually sends reports to the server if it is turned off or turned on so i would avoid tampering with it. I would go a long with what other people have said about taking it to the police if you guys think it is an issue. that would be the safest thing to do. if you start planting it on stuff and if it is the ex husband then he might go a little crazy and things could get out of hand. </p>
The prosecution could argue that you are a criminal, so you most likely concluded the device was there to investigate your criminal actions, therefore you removed it to hinder prosecution. A decent judge would throw that out if you hired a lawyer, but that expense and trouble is usually not worth it to many people so they tell the cops what they want to hear. If you actually aren't a criminal (or have the knowledge they are seeking) then they think you are stonewalling them, so they push the charges.
I mean, if it was the police, then clearly they think the car driver is a criminal, they almost certianly have a warrent, so they aren't going to be like "golly gee whiz we're sorry sir".
Or think of it this way: if the cops show up to search your home with a warrant, and you say no this is my property and i can do what i want with it, how well do you think that will go over?
I mean, if it was the police, then clearly they think the car driver is a criminal, they almost certianly have a warrent, so they aren't going to be like "golly gee whiz we're sorry sir".
Or think of it this way: if the cops show up to search your home with a warrant, and you say no this is my property and i can do what i want with it, how well do you think that will go over?
One has to be served with a warrant. Otherwise you have the right to tell the police to go pound sand if they want to search your property. Thus, if I have not been served when the GPS is found, it can be lawfully removed.
As far as the criminal intent thing. If what you are saying is true then if the police have my home staked out and are looking inside the windows with binoculars I could be arrested for closing the blinds.
What you are describing is unlawful search and seizure. Similar to what you said, I suppose if the cops wanted to they could be butts about it and push some baseless charge just to harass but that has nothing to do with the legality of the removing the device.
As far as the criminal intent thing. If what you are saying is true then if the police have my home staked out and are looking inside the windows with binoculars I could be arrested for closing the blinds.
What you are describing is unlawful search and seizure. Similar to what you said, I suppose if the cops wanted to they could be butts about it and push some baseless charge just to harass but that has nothing to do with the legality of the removing the device.
They have to have a warrant from a judge, but they don't have to tell you about it. "Sneak and Peek". But yes if they ask you can of course tell them no.
I agree with you that is unlawful search and seizure (to not be served). But the SC has disagreed.
"If what you are saying is true then if the police have my home staked out and are looking inside the windows with binoculars I could be arrested for closing the blinds."
Not really the same thing. It would be like returning home and discovering a search in progress, and interfering with it. Your analogy would be the equivalent of using a jammer on the GPS. I have no idea what the courts' position on that is. They probably don't have one yet.
i wish i could find the case i read about, where the cops (who were watching the vehicle in question at the time), walked up and threatened arrest on the owner who found and removed the device. but all i get from searches is links to the recent SC case.
ETA:
"but that has nothing to do with the legality of the removing the device."
you don't ever want to put yourself in a position where you have to prove the legality of your actions. it will cost thousands of $ and be a pain in the @ss. innocent until proven guilty applies only to conviction, not charges.
I agree with you that is unlawful search and seizure (to not be served). But the SC has disagreed.
"If what you are saying is true then if the police have my home staked out and are looking inside the windows with binoculars I could be arrested for closing the blinds."
Not really the same thing. It would be like returning home and discovering a search in progress, and interfering with it. Your analogy would be the equivalent of using a jammer on the GPS. I have no idea what the courts' position on that is. They probably don't have one yet.
i wish i could find the case i read about, where the cops (who were watching the vehicle in question at the time), walked up and threatened arrest on the owner who found and removed the device. but all i get from searches is links to the recent SC case.
ETA:
"but that has nothing to do with the legality of the removing the device."
you don't ever want to put yourself in a position where you have to prove the legality of your actions. it will cost thousands of $ and be a pain in the @ss. innocent until proven guilty applies only to conviction, not charges.
We have determined its not police implanted, safety isn't a terrible concern because she is living with us at this time. And given his history I'm less concerned about safety with the device on the way to California than when he could use it to determine when she might be alone.
And he essentially admitted it was his this morning, started texting her asking where she was and what she was doin about 2 hours after the truck left.
And he essentially admitted it was his this morning, started texting her asking where she was and what she was doin about 2 hours after the truck left.
Not dismissing safety, she doesn't actually travel anywhere alone, someone follows her to work in the mornings, security walks her out in the evenings, and got her carry license a month ago.
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