OT: RIP Norman Lear
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Sanford and Son and Three's Company? Feast and famine.
S and S is still hilarious and timeless, you big dummy. Aunt Esther is one of my favorite all time tv characters.
Lawanda Page wasn't actually a comedic actress originally , she was a childhood friend of Redd Fox.
S and S is still hilarious and timeless, you big dummy. Aunt Esther is one of my favorite all time tv characters.
Lawanda Page wasn't actually a comedic actress originally , she was a childhood friend of Redd Fox.
Not so sure about the woke part. The ethnic appellations in All in the Family, much like Chappelle's The Niggar Family, would drive the cancel flakes batty.Norman Lear was ahead of his time. Look at all the shows he put on the air back in the 70s and 80s. Many of them featured predominantly black casts.
If he did those same exact shows today, people would be calling him "woke".
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What Lear and Chappelle tried to do was cancel racial epithets by satirizing them and the people who use them. But that goal gets lost too often because the flakes' brains stop functioning when they start clutching their pearls.
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Yeah, not seeing the woke thing at all. Fred Sanford and George Jefferson, woke? Now that is funny.
They might be seen as minstrel or as caricatures.
They might be seen as minstrel or as caricatures.
I mean, I never thought about skin color when I was watching a show. If it sucked I didn't watch it. I think what's getting mixing up is talent with ZERO talent and the contrived push it receives.Norman Lear was ahead of his time. Look at all the shows he put on the air back in the 70s and 80s. Many of them featured predominantly black casts.
If he did those same exact shows today, people would be calling him "woke".
That's actually my point. Those shows weren't woke at all. But in today's over-the-top and hypersensitive climate where everyone is using buzz words without context or without even knowing what those words actually mean, they would be labeled as such.
That's the problem. And I'll stop there because I don't want to get the thread locked. It just bothers me what we've become. I know it bothered Norman Lear as well.
Very creative man who made great shows. Away from the tv studio, he was pretty pure modern Hollywood
I don't know if it is woke, racial, minstrel or what, but not a month goes by where I don't react to something outlandish by staggering, grabbing my chest, waving my other arm in the air and saying, "I'm having the big one now, Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you honey." The Millennials at work always thought I was crazy when I did that because they had no context.
He was on top with all the family and Jeffersons and Sanford and son. But then, as far as sitcom go, he was overtaken by threes company, Laverne and Shirley, and happy days, which were less edgy.
You think so. I watched it but realized one day it wasn't funny at all. John Ritter's pratfall humor was like watching a 6th grader. Suzanne Sommers did the dumb blonde well, that other women was average in every respect.
Lear had some real success and some real dogs along with it. Most all of his post 70's stuff must have been just borrowing his name because it was awful.
Hot L Baltimore is considered one of the biggest flops of all time.
One Day At A Time was insufferable but so bad it was good. Overly-dramatic estrogen oozed from the tv screen.
But it had that one gleam, Valerie Bertinelli.
Good Times may have been a little goofy at times but the intimidating dad, James Evans, in that was great. Then they killed him off for some reason.
He certainly provided me with entertainment throughout the years.
You could add Aaron Spelling, Steven Bochco, Garry Marshall, Stephen J. Cannell in the list for me.
You could add Aaron Spelling, Steven Bochco, Garry Marshall, Stephen J. Cannell in the list for me.