OT: RIP Meat Loaf

newwavedave1

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I saw him in the Off Broadway "Rocky Horror Show". Never heard of him at that time. i think he played Igor.
 

LeapinLou

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Said no one ever....
I realize this is an unpopular opinion but I feel like "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" falls into the same category as Journey's "Don't Stop Believing." A great song that was ruined by it's own popularity.

For whatever reason, I just couldn't embrace it when the female half of the party and the male side would stand off and shout the male/female lyrics at each other. That's when I would either get another drink or go to the bathroom.
 

AreYouNUTS

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One of the best rock "operas" ever, no doubt, and IMHO the song "Bat Outta Hell" was/is/always will be highly underrated. I was just out of high school when the album hit big, for the 2nd time, and while you knew "Paradise" and "2 Out of 3," by then, I didn't really get to appreciate the entire album until the mid-late 80's. Glad it happened! and R.I.P. 'Loaf!!!
 

CranfordKnight

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Always loved his voice

Saw him way back when at the meadowlands arena.

The newspaper reviewer panned
his performance with a title " pass on the meatloaf", Or something similar, which was a bit clever

Main complaint was that his entire concert was something like seven or eight songs, but as mentioned above, were often extended greatly in length

I enjoyed it as it was

I always thought his career suffered, while he had a great and powerful voice, he was not given, or able to write more songs for himself........ Bat out of hell, and the followup to that one were the two hallmarks of his career, I wish there was more

If you have any interest in pop music history, I highly recommend the podcast The Hit Parade. They do a deep dive of artists, genres, themes against the backdrop of the music charts. A couple of months before Jim Steinman died, coincidentally, they did a show on him. Anything you want to know about Meatloaf is discussed there. It's a great episode.

 

bac2therac

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I realize this is an unpopular opinion but I feel like "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" falls into the same category as Journey's "Don't Stop Believing." A great song that was ruined by it's own popularity.

For whatever reason, I just couldn't embrace it when the female half of the party and the male side would stand off and shout the male/female lyrics at each other. That's when I would either get another drink or go to the bathroom.

I see your point but after not hearing this song much the past decade i am amazed but its brilliance now
 
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Bleem Phuppert

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I realize this is an unpopular opinion but I feel like "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" falls into the same category as Journey's "Don't Stop Believing." A great song that was ruined by it's own popularity.

For whatever reason, I just couldn't embrace it when the female half of the party and the male side would stand off and shout the male/female lyrics at each other. That's when I would either get another drink or go to the bathroom.

To me, part of his appeal was his voice. I loved Steinman's arrangements, but they were written specifically for Meat Loaf's vocals.

There's a musician, former music professor and now YouTube guy named Rick Beato. He makes terrific "break down" videos of songs in his series "What Makes This Song Great?". This video is heavy on vocal analytics (more than most of his others) and focuses on - believe it or not - Bon Jovi's "Livin' On a Prayer". Even if you're 'meh' on the song, the video is worth watching.
 

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Meatloaf had such a great stage presence and a passion in his voice which is hard to duplicate…Paradise By The Dashboard Light for all eternity. RIP
 

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To me, part of his appeal was his voice. I loved Steinman's arrangements, but they were written specifically for Meat Loaf's vocals.

There's a musician, former music professor and now YouTube guy named Rick Beato. He makes terrific "break down" videos of songs in his series "What Makes This Song Great?". This video is heavy on vocal analytics (more than most of his others) and focuses on - believe it or not - Bon Jovi's "Livin' On a Prayer". Even if you're 'meh' on the song, the video is worth watching.

Bleem Phuppert,

Thanks for posting this. I had never heard of this series. Very interesting.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 

wheezer

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Meat Loaf not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?


the concert I saw decades ago, he spoke on stage that he was so thankful for people coming to see him, he was so sincere about it

I think, based on his own personality, he would have
appreciated being inducted into the Rock hall of fame more than anyone that has gotten that honor

doing it after his death would still be nice, but it would have been so much better if he could have gotten it while alive.
 

RPinelli

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I was at that concert, in the "barn". He sang his *** off until he passed out in sweat. His female singer blew us away too.
Was at the show also. Had front row seats in front of a bank of speaker. Could not hear for a few days but it was worth it.
Great show.
 
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RULoyal

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Was at the show also. Had front row seats in front of a bank of speaker. Could not hear for a few days but it was worth it.
Great show.
Saw Warren Zevon at the Barn in 1980 and sat in front of those same speakers with similar auditory repercussions.
 

Fishky

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A big part of my teen years was walking the streets singing Meatloaf with my buds, drinking beers of course. He was awesome live too. Very sad RIP big man Bat out of Hell and For Cryin Out loud were my favorites, add we lost Jim Steinman last year the brains behind it all also makes it more sad.
 
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RuBird

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Debatable for me...one of the greatest works of all time but then what????

Credit to that early 90s comeback which was unlikely to imagine but I Would Do Anything is worse than Nothings Gonna Stop Us Now

I would go with no...
My question then is how much emphasis do you put on the artist performing live? Meat left it all on stage. It was like seeing a rock opera every time I saw him in concert
 

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I never played his music but I liked him - he had his own style
I never wanted a PT Cruiser or Mini Cooper but I liked having them around to break-up the monotony
The Three Tenors were like that too. They didn't fill a niche - they were the niche. So it was with Meatloaf
 
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RUPete

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Debatable for me...one of the greatest works of all time but then what????

Credit to that early 90s comeback which was unlikely to imagine but I Would Do Anything is worse than Nothings Gonna Stop Us Now

I would go with no...
I was thinking the same thing. But he was just into other stuff - acting, Broadway, coaching softball… Interesting character - there was a good interview with him on CBS Sunday Morning or 60 Minutes a few years back.
 
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MADHAT1

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Rather than allowing RIP messages to bw the main topic , some must talk about being vaccinated and others about non vax.
Same that this thread started to show respect for an well known person that many here enjoyed his music is being hijacked by some posting in this thread personal vax/non-vax agenda

That is not showing Meat Loaf the type of respect he deserves as a person.
 
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