OT? - Ranney / Team Rio
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Haters gonna hate. The best is headmasters from other schools, who act like they are squeaky clean (kinda like the Louisville fan base used to do) chiming in and saying it isn't fair lol
Yes I'm sure St Benedicts never did anything close to crossing the line
Providing housing for families to attract elite recruits is a highly questionable practice even when they pay rent.In addition the families received major assistance in payment of yearly tuition to a private school.Public high schools simply can't compete when it comes to attracting top tier recruits.
It’s funny. I was actually thinking about whether or not to send my daughter to Ranney over the last week or so and went tot the tuition page, which they creatively call “affordability”. Was trying to figure out what type of aid they hand out. Looks like if you can should a basketball you get $33k off the regular price of $34k. Nice.
Looks who’s sitting to the left in the picture
All the controversy aside, I did not care for Klatsky's quote:
“It’s not about how many points am I going to score. It’s about how do I become a true student-athlete,” Klatsky said. “That’s why they’re at Ranney. If they didn’t believe in being a true student-athlete, they’d be at St. Anthony’s or Roselle Catholic or somewhere else.
Not saying that those schools are without any guilt in this high school recruiting situation, but no need to disparage their academics. They do not deserve that.
This is why public schools cannot compete any longer with the private and parochial schools. St. Benedict's has been getting kids for years from many far away places. St. Patrick's even had kids living at one of the secretary's home for quite a few years when Kevin Boyle was the coach. The NJSIAA really needs to put an end to this.
Lets start a list of NJ private schools who have purposely purchased homes and given player's families below market rent for 4 years.
You first...
Public schools like colts neck and rumson do this as well
Exactly.
And to say there isn't a fundamental difference between a kid sleeping at another kid's house Monday through Thursday--like Leonte Carroo did at Bosco) and "friends of the program" BUYING HOUSING to house entire families of star players is rather disconnected.
I sent this article to some guys who post here last night...one replied "Is this is an April Fools story?" And he's not a naive a guy...
Some years ago my daughter played AAU ball.
Girl on the team from Neptune - she went on to play at ru- was housed along with family in colts neck.
Thought by the handlers she would play at the HS.
Girl on the team from Neptune - she went on to play at ru- was housed along with family in colts neck.
Thought by the handlers she would play at the HS.
Manasquan too in girls hoops
Timber Creek and Montclair in football
Private schools all recruit----that's a given------the financial aid package they're given is standard for all students who are accepted at most schools.
Do I have a problem with a kid getting out of an underperforming school district and into a better academic situation which prepares him better for college ? Not really.
But the constant transfers are an issue the NJISSA could fix if they had a spine.
You transfer you sit a year athletically---------no exceptions.
Timber Creek and Montclair in football
Private schools all recruit----that's a given------the financial aid package they're given is standard for all students who are accepted at most schools.
Do I have a problem with a kid getting out of an underperforming school district and into a better academic situation which prepares him better for college ? Not really.
But the constant transfers are an issue the NJISSA could fix if they had a spine.
You transfer you sit a year athletically---------no exceptions.
Wow....so they did an entire expose on the fact that the guy owns two homes and rents them to player families. NJ.com is such crap. That entire article could have been 2 paragraphs, with al their facts anyone can get from Google. Lol. All of their "investigative report" either came from an interview with the guy they are blasting, or from easily found internet sources (Ranney school website, his company website, njactb).
How many times can they say "well if this is an impermissible benefit then they could be ineligible for NCAA." So, so lame. Almost as lame as getting Collichio, Hurley, and Leahy to complain about it.
How many times can they say "well if this is an impermissible benefit then they could be ineligible for NCAA." So, so lame. Almost as lame as getting Collichio, Hurley, and Leahy to complain about it.
Didn't that Linden PG of a few years ago, son of the TV sports guy, live no where near Linden?
There was a 97 percent off coupon in the Asbury Park Press when he applied. You must have missed it.
It kind of pisses me off where I am paying for my son and daughter full cost at a parochial HS and you here this.
Shore teams have been doing this for awhile now. Rumson has been cheating for awhile in basketball, getting kids from all over and so has point beach. You are telling me that division 1 players from Europe just magically move into a tiny shore town , give me a break. Also Matt Farrell is from Bridgewtaer. Manesquan in girls basketball also just magically happens to get multiple high d 1 major players every year.
That is what makes doing it the right way more special; having kids who actually grew up together in the same town and actually live in the same town play together in high school . Its a rarity these days but when you win this way, its even better.
That is what makes doing it the right way more special; having kids who actually grew up together in the same town and actually live in the same town play together in high school . Its a rarity these days but when you win this way, its even better.
In the case of Pt Beach I'm told most of their out of town kids pay out of district tuition.
The difference is that their out of district tuition is way less than other districts----in many cases less than half.
They're very upfront about it.
It's a pretty good school district and a ton more reasonable than what people are paying at Parochial and Private schools.
The difference is that their out of district tuition is way less than other districts----in many cases less than half.
They're very upfront about it.
It's a pretty good school district and a ton more reasonable than what people are paying at Parochial and Private schools.
The Point Beach thing happened on the Girl’s side few years ago when a Manasquan parent was told to take a step back from the program as some thought he was too close and too involved.
His reaction ended up having two girls transfer to Beach until things were “fixed.”
And @TDIrish27 is right, aside from the sports part, it is considered a very good school district from top to bottom. So not surprised some parents would do this for academics too.
His reaction ended up having two girls transfer to Beach until things were “fixed.”
And @TDIrish27 is right, aside from the sports part, it is considered a very good school district from top to bottom. So not surprised some parents would do this for academics too.
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Wait until your kids are working regular jobs for regular pay, and those kids are making NBA salaries.
It's just funny that they happen to find good basketball players though isn't it? especially from europe? despite it being a good district and low tuition, i'm sure they are doing something else to get all these players together. Not sure what Manesquan is offering besides winning titles every year.
To be honest, if they kept ALL of the athletes in their own sending district towns that go to RBC, CBA, SJV, St. Rose, Trinity Hall, some of the prep schools along with the Monmouth County Vocational ones that are farther away (like MAST and Biotech) they would be very good if not great in all of their sports.
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I guess we now know why one of them likes Florida. Probably the one with the better house. Klatsky graduated from Florida (MBA).
Shell
They don't just find them----they go out and get them-----on the jr AAU circuit
Coach is a well connected AAU guy and they sell small school , nice environment and the ability to play quickly.
As I mentioned they're very upfront about it.
I saw Beach beat CBA in the Shore Conference Final a few years ago.
If you were going to rob a Bank in Point Pleasant Beach you should have done it that night because I think the whole town was there.
Phil Martelli , Brey and Greg McDermott were sitting about 5-6 rows in front of us.
They don't just find them----they go out and get them-----on the jr AAU circuit
Coach is a well connected AAU guy and they sell small school , nice environment and the ability to play quickly.
As I mentioned they're very upfront about it.
I saw Beach beat CBA in the Shore Conference Final a few years ago.
If you were going to rob a Bank in Point Pleasant Beach you should have done it that night because I think the whole town was there.
Phil Martelli , Brey and Greg McDermott were sitting about 5-6 rows in front of us.
They are good, but not great, its just funny how a little group 1 school finds all these kids. I figured there coach went out and got them all. I coach at Chatham and we play them every summer down in the Linden summer league . I just feel bad for the other schools who can't do the same thing. And E5, you could say that about any public school honestly. Everyone loses kids to privates. We have a great 8th grade baskeball class who will be frosh next year. Unfortunately 1 is going to Gill, one to Seton Hall, and one to St. Peters Prep. We'll have some good ones still coming in, but losing 3 really good players hurts. It happens to everyone.
While that is true about everybody losing some to the private schools, I used Manasquan as an example because they are just a Group II school and have already in their past survived and succeeded pretty well in just about every sport despite all the poaching. My point was more of an "imagine if..." type of thing.
They seem to be keeping their LAX guys and now hockey too at home. And those results have showed up in Shore Conference and NJSIAA play.
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Look at how many of their players and the ones from St. Rose (who maybe not all but many are also from the same sending districts) are on D1 rosters. Pretty sure a lot of parents of Shore area girls who play basketball could name every single one of them and what colleges they go to.
That's what their offering...a possible free ride.
Well they play in a league with Mater Dei and Ranney in Hoops
They choose to try and compete with them instead of getting their brains beat in . I have no problem with that as long as these kids are paying the fee the BOE sets.
They don't do this for just athletics-----they get kids from Brick who's parents don't want them going there as it isn't a great district.
Surprised that a great district like Chatham would lose kids . IMO those parents need their heads examined .
They choose to try and compete with them instead of getting their brains beat in . I have no problem with that as long as these kids are paying the fee the BOE sets.
They don't do this for just athletics-----they get kids from Brick who's parents don't want them going there as it isn't a great district.
Surprised that a great district like Chatham would lose kids . IMO those parents need their heads examined .
Ha, funny you say this because we say this all the time. The problem is the parents believe their kids are superstars and a lot get lost in the shuffle at these schools. Plus, you are getting a much better education at Chatham, rather than paying at least 30 grand a year to go elsewhere. In terms of basketball, we've won 3 straight counties and been to 4 finals in a row, been to 4 straight sectional finals in a row and won this year, making the group 3 final. We've been really good the last decade or so and one of the most respected suburban publics in the state. For the most part we've kept our basketball kids home which is why we've been so good and most of them want to play for Chatham and in our program; just for some reason this year these kids or parents wanted to go elsewhere. Hopefully they find their way back.
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When you factor in paying $15,000 to $ 20,000 a year in Property Taxes the idea of having my kid after hoop practice waiting on a train platform to get home from Jersey City at 6:30 in dead of winter----eat dinner----and then do homework to me is just silly.
OK if the Catholic education thing is that important to you there's Delbarton and Seton Hall but commuting to Jersey City to me is just too much from Chatham for a young kid.
But hey-----people swear by the Jesuits.
I have a former coworker and a great friend who went to The Prep along with all his brothers---------from Sea Girt back in the late 60's.
When you factor in paying $15,000 to $ 20,000 a year in Property Taxes the idea of having my kid after hoop practice waiting on a train platform to get home from Jersey City at 6:30 in dead of winter----eat dinner----and then do homework to me is just silly.
OK if the Catholic education thing is that important to you there's Delbarton and Seton Hall but commuting to Jersey City to me is just too much from Chatham for a young kid.
But hey-----people swear by the Jesuits.
I have a former coworker and a great friend who went to The Prep along with all his brothers---------from Sea Girt back in the late 60's.