OT-Pre-emergent Herbicides

[bulldog2488]

I apologize in advance if this has been discussed on a thread in the past, but I need some advice on pre-emergent weed killer/blocker for a bermuda lawn. I have a few broadleaf weeds, but its mostly grassy weeds like crabgrass and nutsedge. I've found pretty good success with post-emergent weed killers, but I've never done a pre-emerge and I haven't had much luck finding any in places like Home Depot and Lowes. Any suggestions? Also, I've heard different opinions on this, but when is the best time to put the pre-emerge out? Fall or Spring?

 

[Col. Forbin]

This past spring it went to Keeling in Canton and bought Barricade granules. I thought it worked pretty well.

ETA: It was a whole lot cheaper than anything at a home improvement store was.

 

[EngDawg]

MOLE CRICKETS.

Beat the Tigahs! Hail State!

 

[civildawg88]

You have to apply it both in the Fall and Spring. This is what I use https://www.amazon.com/Prodiamine-Generic-Barricade-5lbs-ali8056/dp/B004GTQBEK That bottle will last you for years. It will not prevent nutsedge from forming. Use sedgehammer for that

 

[bulldog2488]

Okay great. Do you recall about how much you paid for it there?

 

[Shamoan]

how would the average joe apply that to his yard? a high-end backpack sprayer with multiple trips over they yard and a green dye in the herbicide? is that how that works?

something like this:

 

[bulldog2488]

Thanks civildawg. I'm definitely going to give that a shot. I'd much rather prevent them than have to deal with a post-emerge later. Did you apply using a tank sprayer? What products have you used for post-emerge?

 

[Col. Forbin]

I want to say it was around $15 and that was a 40lb sack I believe.

 

[moturfdog]

Pre-emergent herbicide applications

The previously information is all correct Barricade is the cheapest most effective product on the market. Its active ingredient is Prodiamine. You can purchase it on a fertilizer carrier which makes easier for the home owner to apply. You need to make a fall and spring application which will target different weed problems that occur during that specific time of year. Your fall application needs to happen pretty soon, say before Halloween, this will control poa annua, chickweed and henbit. Your spring application should be in early to mid March to stop crab and goose grass, depending on your location. All of this information in far greater detail will be on the bag.
Hope this helps

 

[civildawg88]

Yes I bought a tank sprayer very similar to that. I suggest buying the blue dye for it also so you can see where you have sprayed. For post emergent look at a product called Celsius. It's 100 dollars but it's a big bottle and you only have to use very little each time so it will last you years as well.

 

[bulldog2488]

Thanks for all the input! I was paying 50 bucks a pop for a local lawn guy to come out and spray for weeds (pre and post-emerge) with little results. I figured I could do it on my own cheaper with a lot better results.

 

[bulldog2488]

Do you know how much barricade to mix per gallon of water? The label wasn't real clear on this. Or maybe I'm just not good with math!

 

[civildawg88]

I will have to look at the label tomorrow and try to help you out

 

[harrydawg.sixpack]

I'll second Keeling in Gluckstadt and barricade..... paid like $17 a bag in the spring.....


i have cenepede, I assume a fall application and spring application of barricade is good for cenepede - correct?

 

[civildawg88]

Correct

 

[bulldog2488]

Thanks. I'd appreciate it. Gonna try to get it applied in the next week. Also, do you use a surfactant in the mix?

 

[civildawg88]

I do, but it's not totally necessary. You can add a couple of drops of dish soap and it should do the same thing

 

[EngDawg]

But what should I do for mole crickets?**

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Go with Prodiamine this fall and put it out tomorrow if you can....it actually should have been put out by the middle to 3rd week of last month but probably you're still good. I wouldn't suggest going back to back (Fall and Spring) with straight Prodiamine at 1lb of active per acre. Find a golf course superintendent that uses RegalStar for Spring pre-emerge and ask him if you can buy a few bags off of him. This is the best Spring pre-emerge you can find that is impregnated on a fertilizer carrier. As mentioned above, this is the easiest way to apply pre-emerge for a home owner. RegalStar has two pre-emerge herbicides impregnated on the carrier (fertilizer). Ronstar (oxidiazon) 2lbs active ingredient per acre for goose grass and Barricade (Prodiamine) .5 lbs of active ingredient per acre for crabgrass. There's enough Prodiamine in RegalStar to stop crabgrass but not enough to hurt your root system coming out of dormancy in the Spring. Use either a 38-0-0 (100% Nitroform Slow release N that won't be taken up by you grass until the soil temps allow it to be taken up) or a low N, high K carrier like a 5-10-30 as a carrier if you can.

Applying in the Spring, you want to apply it while your grass is still dormant. 2nd week of March at the latest - unless we have a hard winter and hard early spring. You'll have no issues putting this product out when your grass is still dormant but if you wait and apply it when your grass starts to come out of dormancy (starts greening up) then the Oxidiazon portion of this pre-emerge could set back your grass some. After applying, be sure to water in pre-emerge so the fertilizer will fall beneath the canopy of the grass and the active ingredient is washed into the soil so it can start working.

If you can't find a Super in your area that uses RegalStar....call the company and they'll let you know where you can find it in your area. Regal Chemical Co. Alpharetta, GA.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

I suggest a Remington 410 with #8 shot.**

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I suggest a Remington 410 with #8 shot.**

Best solution I have heard yet.

 

[civildawg88]

From the label I read on barricade, it says .4oz per 1k sq foot. I usually can spray 1k sqft with about a gallon of water. So .4 oz per gallon is about what you need.

 

[ShrubDog]

The drought conditions in MS does not help the effectiveness of the herbicide. May want to wait before a rain which may be in a month.

 

[civildawg88]

That's what I've been doing. I still haven't sprayed because of the drought.

 

[ShrubDog]

I am waiting myself. Food plots aint looking bright either.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

You got that right....drought is killing the food plot business. Need a mild tropical storm to come through and drop 4" of rain on us over a couple of days.