I'm not a lawyer so won't argue the point.
Yep and it's up to a judge to make the decision here. The PGA is arguing that the LIV golfers submitted unredacted PGA by laws, regulations, player handbooks to the court as part of their suit but then have only submitted heavily redacted contracts and by laws and regulations for LIV. The PGA has argued that what is redacted is critical to the arguments the players are trying to make in their suit and that they didn't seek redactions in any PGA documentation that the LIV golfers submitted.
Listen anytime I post anything there is an immediate argument from you. You are so set on stuff and never back down. I could list **** that's wrong but you'll argue every point. That fact that you thought I was defending the LIV when simply pointing out the problems the PGA has and continues has wrong speaks volumes of your inability to comprehend my points. For the last time my problem is with the PGA. I could care less about the LIV. Enjoy the Championship.
And then you will spend the next couple of days arguing the points. Your wrong on a lot of points but believe what you want. Do some real research. You can argue with the media instead of me. I'm guessing you are a CE clown, fits the MO.
I agree but I do like to see one winner. Not sure there is a better way to do it.
To be honest, I have hated the playoffs since the beginning. I have to admit the Haas win was pretty cool with the shot from the pond. If the PGA Tour does add the LIV style tournaments, I hope they kill off the playoffs.
That is what they are saying. Same as LIV, just slightly less money...limited field. Players would have a higher number of required tournaments to play as a result.
The former way there was the normal weekly winner. After that the season champion received his Trophy and his big $$ check. Odd not to have a winner in a 4 day tournament who shoots the best score. I had no issues with the old way.
Yeah, more participation trophies. Lower rank guys can avoid getting screw by……..ranking higher.
That’s personal preference. It felt awkward to me in the old format where the season winner is determined and you have another tournament going on in the background. Golf isn’t situated for this but the players get a big pay day.
Agreed. It's the new reality. Too much money flowing in all sports. Just like NIL ruining college sports. Times change...not always for the better.
Or average/past prime player on a new tour.Good time to be a top sport athlete
Personally I'd still prefer they were all still playing together.The kids will be ok.Or average/past prime player on a new tour.
Golf isn't situated to screw the guy that plays best over a 4 day tournament.
Yes, this format is to reward guys that have played well this year. It’s not about 4 days but the entire season. This was the big pay day for the top players before LIV.
They used to do both. Nothing wrong with it. I believe under this format the top handicap has won all 3 versions of this format. Then why even play this week? They still got the big check under the former setup. Just another example of the PGA being cheap again.
If you look at what happened in 2018, that was the reason they made the change. I’m not sure where you get PGA being cheap. They just pooled the money to one winner instead of two. The pool grew from 35mm in 2018 to 75mm now.
Is the Playoff winner prize still a retirement payout and not a current check?
Thought it was a 10 year annuity
I tried to find an answer. Most articles don't get to that level of detail. On the FedEx Cup Wiki, it says the Top 10 is paid the majority of the winnings directly and 10% to the retirement fund. If you are outside of the Top 10, all goes to the retirement fund. It seems you can get access to the funds by a certain age and then need to take withdrawals over 5 years. Can't tell if that is old information or not.
Tell that to the guy that wins the actual tournament. Plus changing the rules for the final is stupid. You play on points all season long and then you get a handicap. Not a real golf handicap but a made up one. Giving the #1 guy a 2 stroke lead on #2 regardless of the point difference is insane enough. Giving a 10 stroke lead to people in the top 30 is actually beyond ridiculous.
You mean finishing second and getting 6.5mm dollars or 3rd place for 5mm. Poor souls. No one is getting screwed in the FedEx Cup. The story in 2018 isn’t about Tiger. It was that Rose won w/o winning any of the playoff events.
Hello. That is still how the format works. The FedEx points system hasn't changed at all. Rose would still won under this format. He was #1 going into the final. 10 stroke handicap. Tiger Woods would have still lost by a larger margin actually. You can still win easily under both formats without winning a playoff.
Exactly, he would’ve won either way but the tour feels it’s better to have the winner win instead of by math. The payout I’m referring to is this year’s money. I’m not crying for 3mm and 1mm either.
You brought up 2018 not me. Rose under both scenarios wins. Tiger wouldn't have been top 3 under today's format but he made a bigger % under the old format by winning. And you act like Rose stunk in the playoffs. He went extra holes the week before to finish 2nd in the playoff before the final. I have no idea what your point is about him not winning a playoff. Many won and continue to win without winning a playoff round.
I totally understood your reply. You argued about 2018. You were wrong. Now you say you are arguing about current. Either way your points are incorrect. The FedEx points system hasn't changed at all. Only the final has changed. Going away from the year long point system to a fake handicap system which ignores the points earned. A guy could finish 1 point behind #1 and suffer a 2 stroke deficit or he could be 1000 points behind and still just be penalized 2 strokes . Yet you think this is a better system because you can't focus on two things at once.
one last time. I didn’t argue about 2018. I showed it as the reason the tour changed format. Like you said, Rose wins in either format. The only difference is style points. Rather having to tell the fans who’ll win based on points, the tour rather have it played out on the course. FedEx cup is designed that everyone involved is getting paid. No one leaves empty handed. If one player plays well and moves up from 6 to 2, he just picked up $4mm.
I'm saying the reason for the change wasn't because of what happened in 2018 Playoffs. They have been tinkering it every few years since the beginning. The change wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome. If they didn't like that Rose won ( which is ridiculous, he had an awesome year) they would have come up where Tiger or someone else would have under the same circumstances. They did the opposite. They made Rose's chances to win greater.
It's a smart move.Funny stuff. After months of talking about how evil LIV is, the PGA is now trying to copy it. LOL!
