Rickie is an interesting guy. It was mentioned last night on Golf Channel that relatively speaking he probably makes the most from his endorsement deals given his modest career performance. Mercedes, Puma, Rocket Mortgage and Farmers Insurance. Rickie the brand is more valuable than Rickie the player. How would playing on LIV effect those deals.
OT: Phil Mickelson
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I said it early on that this tour could’ve worked out for a lot of players. Phil actually did thePGA tour a favor by turning the sentiment against it. The irony.
If you look at what happened to Phil, playing in the LIV could kill the deals or at least the ones that don't have a strong foreign presence.
I tend to agree but do not know if Phil's loss of endorsements was due to his LIV involvement or due to his stupid comments about the Saudi's.
All Rickie's sponsor's are heavily involved in the golf world with Farmers and Rocket Mortgage sponsoring tournaments. I'm not thinking they want their spokesperson playing on the LIV tour or banned from the PGA tour the week of the Rocket Mortgage Classic.
You are a Phil hater so.... you are not a good source of info. Obviously you can't stand the guy with your comments. You seem to be the guy that he bothers you so much. I'm just meh on Phil. Was routing for Koepka last PGA.
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You are a weird ******. If you could point out one comment I made to support your Phil hater theory you might have a point. Problem is you can’t do that. You’re just a loser that makes **** up because you can’t argue with facts.
enjoy the PGA.
I think this qualifies
"Phil is a stupid idiot and watching his demise is funny as hell"
What also is funny as hell that you say you aren't a Phil hater.
Since it is universally accepted that his comments to Shipnuck were stupid and misguided, pointing that out would not qualify as being a Phil hater.
I don't hate you, but I think you are stupid. Might be too subtle for you to understand.
Well it is funny as hell that you try to dance around your comments. Your comments weren't subtle at all about your joy of his downfall. Haters going to hate.
Well part of the reason is Phil actually said what he said and no one else did. Other fairly prominent members of the two tours considering LIV have largely kept their thoughts on the down low. Mickelson got caught saying some stupid stuff that made him look bad. He has no one to blame but himself for that.
And who is really going after him other than golf fans and the media? The PGA Tour applied the same rules to every golfer that they said they would apply to Mickelson. The PGA of America didn't bar him from defending his title this week, he pulled out himself.
I wish he were there defending his title but blaming others for a bed he made is kind of lame.
Hahaha. I love suckers who read op-ed pieces. Where has Nicklaus ever praised the new league. In fact he is 100% against it.
The juicy part wasn’t an opinion. It was the law suit and the claim that Jack had to be talked out of the Saudi deal.
Yes it was an opinion! The Nicklaus Companies LLC wanted that money. Jack said no and resigned. They sued.
Again please show me Nicklaus support of that league. He is publicly against it.
The article was an opinion but it cites the actual law suit which states the opposite of what you are claiming. Not a good look when your namesake company is suing you.
The OpEd was poorly written. Jack indicated he was out because he was a founder of the PGA tour. Then the article positions the lawsuit by saying they got Jack out of the trouble. I'll believe Jack here. Nicklaus was smart to sell his company. Was never a major brand. Millstein is just crying because his magazine and properties suck.
Jack Nicklaus sued by Nicklaus Companies for breach of contract amid reported Saudi offer
Nicklaus Companies claims that it "saved Mr. Nicklaus from himself" by stopping him from taking money from the Saudi-backed golf league.
sports.yahoo.com
Different article (not OpEd), same lawsuit and claim.
Even though I see that article is dated 5/22, I read that same article last week. To me they should have sued Jack much earlier because he's been associated with Golf Digest & other companies for many of those years. Milstein is Golf Magazine/golf.com. Seems like they are looking for an excuse since they got ripped off. Also, weird with the son there. I assume that is who they claimed advised Jack. Jack is getting old and as Uncle Leo from Seinfeld would say "I was confused". Was/am a huge Jack fan and with all the good he's done, would never tarnish his legacy with me and many others.
Jack Nicklaus sued by Nicklaus Companies for breach of contract amid reported Saudi offer
Nicklaus Companies claims that it "saved Mr. Nicklaus from himself" by stopping him from taking money from the Saudi-backed golf league.
Different article (not OpEd), same lawsuit and claim.
Did you read my post? Or do you just want to argue? It's a great look when your company wants the LIV money and he backs out of the agreement. That was a completely a one sided op-ed.
And for the 3rd time you failed to site a comment of Jack backing this tour. Don't bother responding until you can because what you posted has been complete crap. Jack is 100% behind the PGA.
This was coming. As soon as DJ, Mickelson and other tour players tee it in London, the Tour will detail penalties for the offenders. Phil gets heavier penalties than DJ and others for helping form the Saudi league and recruiting Tour players to it.
In the end he is making a lot more money. Could have made a lot more if he kept his mouth shut. Nobody cared about where the money was coming from before his ill advised response.
Social media rumors still on this. But honestly, it would make some sense. Fowler has been scuffling the last few years after being really good in a stretch of majors. As popular as he is with fans and players, some have said behind the scenes he cares more about making cash and working his brand than actually winning.
So getting a payday and big purses in a watered down field might be something that interests him, especially if he can still play in the majors. FWIW, he's playing today to qualify for the US Open. Last I heard, he had a rough start to his round today.
Greg Norman claims Tiger Woods turned down 'mind-blowingly enormous' high nine-digit LIV Golf deal
The 15-time major winner was not swayed by the lucrative offer from the Saudi Arabian-backed league
www.cbssports.com
is Nike contract worth high 9 figures?
I tried to do some research on this and could only find his last contract was $40M for 5 years (or could be longer). Not the high 9 figures he would have turned down.Greg Norman claims Tiger Woods turned down 'mind-blowingly enormous' high nine-digit LIV Golf deal
The 15-time major winner was not swayed by the lucrative offer from the Saudi Arabian-backed league
is Nike contract worth high 9 figures?
I don't think Nike is opposed to working with countries that have major human rights issues. They have been doing it from day 1. Would be hilarious if they dumped any of their players over the LIV.
I guess you could argue how much value Nike really gets being associated with Tiger now. I assume it's still a lot but with no clubs and him not wearing the shoes, not as valuable as before. More of a PR thing. Clothing sales still very strong, but I don't see people wearing TW line. Mostly just generic Nike.
First big name golfer to sign with Nike was Seve. So apparel was always the big focus. Nike golf never caught on for various reasons. They made great golf balls but beating Titleist is neary impossible.
I don't see TW caps for sale anymore retail.
So far it's Phil, DJ, Na, Westwood, Oosthuizen, Poulter, Swafford, Piot (Mich St/US AM Champ), Kaymer, Koepka's brother, Uihlein, Bland, Garcia, Gooch, Jones, and a bunch of Who?
Other than DJ, Louie, and Phil, a lot of Euros on the down side of their career and a couple Tour journeyman.
Other than DJ, Louie, and Phil, a lot of Euros on the down side of their career and a couple Tour journeyman.
If the PGA tour doesn't up it's game on prize money, more and more players will make the jump.
Korn Ferry Tour. Will he be missed? How many golf fans know or care.
He needed to go that route to get his card. Instead he will be rich and not have to worry about making cuts. Plus since he is not a Tour member he can't be fined. Make big big bucks then join the tour.
USGA just announced LIV players that have qualified can play in the US Open.