OT: Phil Mickelson
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Hennie DuPlessis from South Africa has never had a tournament payday for more than 100k until today. LIV is paying him almost $3M for 2nd place and being on the winning team with Schwartzel today. That puts him just behind Xander Schaufele in season earnings, who has played in 14 PGA tour events this season.
How hungry are the vast majority of Tour players after seeing those numbers?
Is it possible that LIV doesn’t want to just coexist with the PGA Tour but surpass it in terms of market share? The PGA Tour could become like the Korn Ferry Tour to LIV Golf.
It seems that very deep pockets can buy market share in the golf business. LIV Golf May be doing that in front of us. Will be interesting to watch this develop.
How hungry are the vast majority of Tour players after seeing those numbers?
Is it possible that LIV doesn’t want to just coexist with the PGA Tour but surpass it in terms of market share? The PGA Tour could become like the Korn Ferry Tour to LIV Golf.
It seems that very deep pockets can buy market share in the golf business. LIV Golf May be doing that in front of us. Will be interesting to watch this develop.
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Phil was making $30-$40 mill in endorsements. Now he’s making none. Gotta look at the whole picture
I think LIV is going to be around for a long time:
Former Masters champion Charl Schwartzel banked $4.75 million on Saturday by winning the richest tournament in golf history.
Schwartzel held on for a 1-shot victory at the inaugural LIV Golf Invitational Series event outside London to secure the $4 million prize for the individual victory -- along with $750,000 from his share of the $3 million purse earned by his four-man Stinger team for topping the team rankings.
Schwartzel, the 2011 winner at Augusta National, collected more prize money from winning the three-day, 54-hole event than he had from the past four years combined.
Former Masters champion Charl Schwartzel banked $4.75 million on Saturday by winning the richest tournament in golf history.
Schwartzel held on for a 1-shot victory at the inaugural LIV Golf Invitational Series event outside London to secure the $4 million prize for the individual victory -- along with $750,000 from his share of the $3 million purse earned by his four-man Stinger team for topping the team rankings.
Schwartzel, the 2011 winner at Augusta National, collected more prize money from winning the three-day, 54-hole event than he had from the past four years combined.
Plenty of sponsorship opportunities on the LIV. Just different ones than the main PGA sponsors. No big deal.
he lost his 30-40 mill in endorsements but made 300 mil just for joining.
net of 240 mil…yah, enticing lol
You do realize it was $200 million over 5 years. That would be net zero.
Even with a net zero..he’s only made 800k im HIS CAREER in golf.
this is a no brainer for anyone who wants more money. He just made 150k and played like crap.
the 800k figure may be a season, so apologies. Still will blow that number out of the water.
and considering Phil is (was) one the highest endorsed players on tour, those others who leave won’t be leaving that much endorsement money on the table.
I agree Phil has little risk. I don’t think Liv is guaranteed to be around long unless the Saudi’s just keep dumping hundreds of millions into it. European tour, champions tour, Korn Ferry, college golf and LPGA all draw horribly and have a much better product than we saw this week from LIV and it’s not close. Adding Pat Perez because he a buddy of DJ is not the solution.
No one said that was. But adding Reed, Bryson, potentially Bubba. Are huge gets and will make the product better.
Give it time.
and I for one disagree that those things you mentioned are better products.
Kokrak has earned $2.3M this year and Varner $2.0M. Not sure what their endorsements are worth.
This is starting to look like a stampede to LIV golf.
Keep in mind the next LIV event is in Portland at the end of this month. Plenty of time to draw more Tour players to LIV.
Rumor is their joining the LIV is dependent upon membership in Euro Tour.
Does Euro tour stay loyal to PGA Tour and say they can’t join..or do they let them join? Pretty big names to pass up
Lol... where have you been? Very deep pockets can buy market share in anything.
We keep valueing oil the way we do and the Saudis can buy anything they want
Until the Saudi government feels the LIV won't do what they want it to do, Saudi Arabia will keep that tour afloat with their money and consider it a sports related PR investment.
^^^^^ Stupid post. The Saudi's have $400-600B in that public fund (and if you have noticed oil prices lately, this fund will hit $1T soon).
The Saudi's could literally buyout the PGA. Stop with your nonsense
Umm WTF is your point about a post I made over a month ago. It has nothing to do how rich he is.
Guess we define sustainable differently. Didn’t you say inflation is transitory in the stock and investment thread? What happens when oil drops back down?
Yes, buying a sustainable business is different than creating one. They should just do that.
LOL….what’s the topic? Your feelings are hurt because your boy Phil is a jackass.
Phil isn't my boy, not butt hurt. Again what is your point to my post. It had nothing to do with how much money MJ has.
I’m lost. Never respond to you about MJ money. Was talking about if LIV is sustainable or not.
This is CE board crap
"Didn’t you say inflation is transitory in the stock and investment thread? What happens when oil drops back down?"
Again as far as sustainability the Saudi's could buy the PGA Tour and let the players play in LIV events. There is already 4 World Golf (WGA) events run outside the PGA and the Euro DP Tour. Why are you so butt hurt about the LIV??
When it drops back down, they will still be adding to the $400-600B total, just at a slower rate. D'uh.
Well, you need to decide if it cheaper to buy it or outspend it.. jury is out but either is doable
If you read the stock and investment thread, you would understand my response to the poster. Nothing to do with “CE board”.
I also responded to you about Saudi having money and can buy the PGA tour. I’m not butt hurt about LIV. Just don’t think it’s sustainable or a threat to the PGA for the long run. I personally can’t wait to see Finau, Rory and JT battle it out tomorrow at the RBC.
Just clowning around. His gambling habits are legendary… but it’s not he couldn’t afford to do it.
There were 90,000 people watching down the end.
My thought from the beginning was that the best move for the PGA Tour is to let them play in LIV events but require them to play in the PGA tournament they're missing the following year if they want to keep Tour benefits. Not an ideal situation, but really the only choice they have against this machine built with blood money.