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I'm not sure, it might be, but even so it's not really fair but I don't mind that much because it's only to save them from being completely humiliated. It would be a miracle if they play a game that isn't a blowout. With the way the groups were sorted based on the rankings, their weakest opponent is Germany, who was seconds away from winning gold in 2018. The IIHF was actually considering preventing them from participating because of how lopsided their games were expected to be. IIHF president Luc Tardif even said in October, "Watching a team being beaten 15-0 is not good for anyone, not for China, or for ice hockey." The NHL backing out was the best thing that could have happened to them. Their team is dead last in the KHL by a pretty wide margin, imagine if their games against USA and Canada featured guys like McDavid, Crosby, Matthews, etc. They lost 8-0 and gave up 55 shots today to what is not even a USA JV team. Who it sucks for is Norway, who I believe would have been the next team in if it wasn't for the host automatically qualifying. They surely would have put forth a better showing than China, even with their loose interpretation of who is a Chinese player.
As you said, the IIHF signed off on this…in October. Maybe not then but again, it’s China’s decision on who can or can’t play.

And I agree, Norway got kinda screwed here.
 

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Its not Olympics - just wondering if you saw the surfer clip going around


I did. Pretty obvious it was a set up. But awesome nonetheless. Wish I did that to guys that have dropped in on me.

That’s Snapper Rocks in Australia. Pretty incredible wave.
 
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I did. Pretty obvious it was a set up. But awesome nonetheless. Wish I did that to guys that have dropped in on me.

That’s Snapper Rocks in Australia. Pretty incredible wave.
That's what I was wondering about.
I think I read the two guys had same last name.
The wave did seem amazing but I was shocked how many people were in the water
I was waiting to see someone get blasted
 

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That's what I was wondering about.
I think I read the two guys had same last name.
The wave did seem amazing but I was shocked how many people were in the water
I was waiting to see someone get blasted
They are cousins. The guy whose board got taken is one of the best surfers of this generation. He wouldn’t fall popping his board like that if he didn’t want to. He also wasn’t wearing a leash, which is very dangerous with that wave and that many people out- unless you’re a guy of his caliber and want to do something fun like they did.

Pretty cool though still.

I’ve seen some gashes on bodies in waves like that with far less people out. One was in the middle of nowhere in the Philippines. Always wonder what happened to that guy.
 

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You aren't going to find many athletes that would turn down a once in a lifetime opportunity to be an Olympian. The American guys on the Chinese team I'm sure would all rather play for the US since that's their true home and every player would rather be on a medal contender than a team that hopes to have one close game, but these guys simply don't have that choice, nor will they ever be close to sniffing the Olympics again in their lifetime. Nobody would turn this down. As I've said before, they are just being asked to play a sport, but a few guys here are acting like they've joined the Chinese military.
Out of curiosity, is this the stance you would have adopted if they had played for the USSR?

You could easily make the argument China under Xi is significantly more repressive than the USSR under any premier post Khrushchev.
 
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Out of curiosity, is this the stance you would have adopted if they had played for the USSR?

You could easily make the argument China under Xi is significantly more repressive than the USSR under any premier post Khrushchev.
China and US are still in the same bed.
 

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Out of curiosity, is this the stance you would have adopted if they had played for the USSR?

You could easily make the argument China under Xi is significantly more repressive than the USSR under any premier post Khrushchev.
Perhaps not because many of the players on the USSR team actually were employed by the military, although I think that was more of a technicality to preserve their "amateur" status. That scenario would have never happened anyway because any American good enough to make the Soviet team would have made Team USA.
 

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They are cousins. The guy whose board got taken is one of the best surfers of this generation. He wouldn’t fall popping his board like that if he didn’t want to. He also wasn’t wearing a leash, which is very dangerous with that wave and that many people out- unless you’re a guy of his caliber and want to do something fun like they did.

Pretty cool though still.

I’ve seen some gashes on bodies in waves like that with far less people out. One was in the middle of nowhere in the Philippines. Always wonder what happened to that guy.
I see this beach is in the east
I know US waves are better in the west
Are things reversed for Australia?
 

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Earth to Ash, there were no '40 Olympics
Annnnnd why didn’t we have the scheduled ‘40 Olympics?

Because the host country in ‘36 started a world war.

And for the record, when Japan pulled out of the ‘40 olympics, Germany took the spot to host again. That’s how important it was to them. Before eventually canceling.

So yeah… nice fail
 

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As you said, the IIHF signed off on this…in October. Maybe not then but again, it’s China’s decision on who can or can’t play.

And I agree, Norway got kinda screwed here.
The issue here is that the host country gets to field a team. China didn't want to be embarrassed so they got hired guns. Personally I wouldn't play for China but these guys are just hanging on to careers. Similar to Becky Hammon, there are negatives to doing this.
 
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Nice win for USA in hockey, 4-2 over Canada! Gave up an early goal but then put in the next 3 and held on for a 4-2 win, capped off with a big slapper by Kenny Agostino of Morristown, and then killing off a late two-man advantage to preserve the lead. Barring an upset loss to Germany Sunday at 8am, they'll finish 1st in the group and go straight to the quarterfinals.
 

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USA beat Germany 3-2 this morning to be the only team to win all three round-robin games in regulation. This puts them not just 1st in the group, but 1st in the entire tournament standings. They get a bye straight to the quarterfinals, where they'll meet the winner of Germany/Slovakia. Canada beat up on China 5-0 today and they'll play them again in the first round. The winner of the Canada/China game will take on Sweden, so assuming USA gets there, they'll have a tough semifinal match against either Canada or Sweden. This means that out of Sweden, Canada, and USA, only one will get gold or silver, one will play for bronze, and one (or two if they lose the bronze medal game) will not get a medal. This is why I think the format from 1980 is better for determining medalists--instead of a knockout bracket, the top teams advancing from the group stage formed a medal-round group and it's a round-robin to determine 1st through 4th, although that format makes for more meaningless games. Anyway, on the other side of the bracket, Finland has a bye and takes on the winner of Czech Republic/Switzerland, and Russia awaits the winner of Denmark/Latvia, so the semifinals will probably be Finland vs. Russia and USA vs. Canada/Sweden.

The women's bracket is in the semifinals, Canada plays Switzerland tonight and USA plays Finland at 8am tomorrow.
 

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So Canadian-born women's hockey goalie not allowed to speak English in interview. Do the hired guns on the men's team even speak Mandarin?


most of the Canadian and Americans playing on China’s hockey team have only lived in China for 2 years. Mandarin Chinese is a very difficult language to learn. It is very doubtful they speak any Chinese at all, beyond hello and thank you and bI would like a beer.
 

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Womens Monobob

US wins gold with a woman who became a citizen in December.
She was a prior bobsled gold medalist for Canada but had issues with the coaching staff.
So left Canada for another team/country.

Their loss is our win.
 
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Womens Monobob

US wins gold with a woman who became a citizen in December.
She was a prior bobsled gold medalist for Canada but had issues with the coaching staff.
So left Canada for another team/country.

Their loss is our win.

Also got married to an American. Give the full background.
 

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Also got married to an American. Give the full background.

I have zero actual care for any Olympian’s background and do zero research into their story.

I just repeated what they said on the broadcast just now. They didn’t mention her husband.
Just that she left Canada because of the coaching staff.
 

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I see this beach is in the east
I know US waves are better in the west
Are things reversed for Australia?
No. Both coasts of Australia have incredible surf all over. I lived in the Perth so I’m partial to the waves in the west, but New South Wales and Queensland have great surf. Of course, Melbourne has the famous Bells Beach.

South Australia has some spots but it’s super sharky and cold.

The west has a lot of men in grey suits too.
 
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I have zero actual care for any Olympian’s background and do zero research into their story.

I just repeated what they said on the broadcast just now. They didn’t mention her husband.
Just that she left Canada because of the coaching staff.

They said it on the broadcast before her run, when they also mentioned the issues with the coaches.
 
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That was an exquisite performance by the US ice dancing team..guaranteed a medal
 

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Hell of a first date question
"What do you do for living?"

"Oh I professionally dance, hold, caress a hot guy/girl all day long. You?"
 
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For the 4th straight time, USA will play Canada for gold in women's hockey. Wednesday at 11pm.
 

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That's the way it should be. US vs. Canada in hockey. The Canadian women are real good. I hope to see a great game.