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Funny how the Thunder are falling apart. Then again when you have a player who is the antithesis of ball movement, on your team, stuff like this tends to happen. As bad as the Knicks are I am sure they are very, very happy not to have Carmelo on their team anymore. I for one cannot watch him play and I don't know how many years he has left on his contract, but I am guessing that no one picks him up after it expires.
 
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If there problem is ball movement then I'm sure that Carmelo is not the cause of that. He certainly doesn't in any way dominate the ball on that team.
 
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Since Carmelo wasn't there yet, he was not the reason for Durant's discontentment in OKC. It's pretty clear who that person is. With Paul George surely gone from their already thin frontcourt, the franchise is headed for a lengthy period of irrelevance. Billy Donovan is no dummy. Gotta wonder where he ends up prior to the Thunder totally falling apart.
 

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Carmelo has been goin downhill for years and the Knicks should have unloaded him years ago. He’s not even a legit 3rd option on a successful team any longer. They are lucky to have gotten what they did.
He would be a nice bench player for a good team, like other once prolific scorers and former Knicks Spencer Haywood and Bob McAdoo were with Lakers In their final years many years ago.
 
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OKC didn't win with Durant, Westbrook and Harden...Durant had to go to California to win. Westbrook and Harden can really fill the stat sheets but neither has won anything. Don't think it's Carmello.
 

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It’s a combination. Melo is unaware on how to work in an offense where he is not option 1. Also, Westbrook is a strong personality and his style of play is not conducive to melo keeping up at this later stage of his career.
 

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OKC didn't win with Durant, Westbrook and Harden...Durant had to go to California to win. Westbrook and Harden can really fill the stat sheets but neither has won anything. Don't think it's Carmello.

Harden wasn’t the player he is today back then. He wasn’t even starting. Biggest mistake they made was letting him go.
 
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Westbrook has turned this series into a Me vs Rubio series to the detriment of his team and his game.

Stupid
 
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he had a good season, then had a horrible finals. sure he's better now

Harden wasn’t the player he is today back then. He wasn’t even starting. Biggest mistake they made was letting him go.
 

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Imagine if they could have held the core of that 2011-12 roster together? Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka
 

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Steven Adams is a huge sports star in New Zealand. His sister Valerie is a two-time Olympic shot put champion.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Harden wasn’t the player he is today back then. He wasn’t even starting. Biggest mistake they made was letting him go.
Harden was every bit the player then that he is now. Players in the NBA knew. In an interview with Bill Simmons, Chris Bosh said that the Heat's game plan in the Finals against the Thunder was to stop Harden, not Durant or Westbrook. If the Thunder could have hired a coach that realized that he was a better point guard than Westbrook, they would have won a few titles. Agree that letting him go was a mistake.
 

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Carmelo has been goin downhill for years and the Knicks should have unloaded him years ago. He’s not even a legit 3rd option on a successful team any longer. They are lucky to have gotten what they did.
He would be a nice bench player for a good team, like other once prolific scorers and former Knicks Spencer Haywood and Bob McAdoo were with Lakers In their final years many years ago.

I don't think Carmelo had ever been a real attribute to a team since he left Syracuse. Me first-shoot first players rarely win anything in the NBA aside from the occasional scoring title.

How many NBA titles did A.I. win?
 

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Think Melo will exercise his $28MM player option for next year? The Knicks don't do much right but getting rid of him was a positive. If they did not sign Hardaway and Kanter opts out they would have been one of the few teams with cap space this summer.
 

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It didn’t help OkC that they were going against a 21 year old superstar in Donovan Mitchell. What a series by Mitchell.

Can’t believe so many teams missed on him. Jazz loved him and moved up a few spots to get him. Apparently the Nets were enamored with him, but weren’t able to make the move up to land him.
 

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Did Knicks really take Frank Nikilitina over him ?
He was projected mid late first. Many teams passed on him.

I think what hurt him was being looked at as a tweener that was average / below average from 3. His 3 point shot is now respectable enough that defenders can’t sag on him and his ability to drive and finish with both hands because of his elite athleticism is what makes him difficult to defend.

I do think the Knicks should have had an inside track on him given he grew up in Westchester and his dad has worked for the Mets for almost 20 years. As I said he wasn’t getting past the Nets, but 22 ended up being too late.
 

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Guys get paid a lot of money not to make that mistake.

Just another sample of the train wreck that is the Knicks.
 

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Kind of puts into perspective why Durant left. Evaluating talent is a crap shoot a lot of the time. For all the complaints about the Warriors' dominance, most of their better players were passed over by multiple teams in the draft. No one imagined that Draymond Green would become the quintessential small ball forward, or that Steph Curry would redefine the point guard position.
 

TDIrish27

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In the last 3 elimination games he has played in he's gone for 45 plus

Averaged a triple double over an 82 game season

Absurd talent
 
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Not his fault for that IMO----his teammates needed to play better.

There is no doubt Westbrook is very talented. I never said that. One could say he wasn't a great shooter, and he does not always have a great handle, or correct pass.

How do his team mates like playing with him? Is he a consistent positive personality? Have his teams won?

The Anthony situation is comical. Carmelo Anthony has always needed teams to cater to him. That is why that no matter how bad the Knicks got, he always stayed, because they never put reigned in his play. Now he is saying, " They never had a plan for me here."

I don't think it's the end of his career, but he would be best trying to do certain things over the summer to get his playing time up.
 

TDIrish27

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2 for 16 from the floor I believe

Whether his teams won is a bad criteria IMO.

John Stockton was as good a PG as I ever saw and he never won a championship.

Tony Parker has won 4 and he isn't close to him. Does that make Parker better ?

Lenny Wilkens win any ?

Oscar won once at the end when all he did was pass to Kareem----other than that he never won one------and he may be the best player of all time.