OT: NJ Real ID

Retired711

Heisman
Nov 20, 2001
19,971
10,150
58
Most likely but depends on where you’re going. I made my appointment in Rip Grande so that was their first appointments. Could be different where you’re going
Am I right that I need a certified copy of my birth certificate for Real ID?
 

e5fdny

Heisman
Nov 11, 2002
114,363
53,495
102
My impression is that I have to have a certified copy of my birth certificate to get a Real ID just as I would need it to get a passport. (My passport expired years ago; we haven't traveled.) Then why not just get a passport? What is the advantage of having Real ID instead? (My apologies if this question has long since been answered; I haven't the patience to go through six pages of thread.)

To me, it’s quite simple to renew an active passport before it expires. Takes a few minutes. I mean it costs more but there isn’t much effort

I can only guess the Real ID benefit is it’s cheaper and fits in your wallet. Seemingly to some, it’s a big effort to carry a passport, yet you should have it on your person any moment outside the US
Just a heads up, and I have mentioned this before on here, for those of us born in Hudson County your “certified” birth certificate is not valid as one of those specific forms of ID.

Maybe it’s changed but when renewing my more than a year expired Passport, the guy at the Post Office said Hudson County issued birth certificate were no good. Was told I need a State issued one from Trenton.

If you renew before it expires like @MulletCork, or less than a year expired, it’s not an issue.
 

Joey Bags

All-American
Sep 21, 2019
5,175
5,311
1
The Flemington one is an absolute disaster. Do they still have hired Allied Universal mercenaries doing security? These guys are insane. Full tactical vests, fully armed. Yell at you for anything and everything.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: newell138

ClassOf02v.2

Heisman
Sep 30, 2010
13,757
15,191
103
The Flemington one is an absolute disaster. Do they still have hired Allied Universal mercenaries doing security? These guys are insane. Full tactical vests, fully armed. Yell at you for anything and everything.
Interesting. I got my REAL ID in Flemington last August. In & out in 15 minutes and bothered by absolutely no one. One of the easiest MVC experiences I’ve ever had.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rutgersfan1766

tom1944

All-American
Feb 22, 2008
6,596
6,972
0
I had to get a new birth certificate when I applied for my passport.

I was born in Union County in 1958 and the birth certificate issued originally was not accepted.
 

Joey Bags

All-American
Sep 21, 2019
5,175
5,311
1
Interesting. I got my REAL ID in Flemington last August. In & out in 15 minutes and bothered by absolutely no one. One of the easiest MVC experiences I’ve ever had.
Good to hear, my experience was from the 2021/2022 timeframe.
 

Fat Koko

All-Conference
Nov 28, 2022
3,650
3,037
73
Lost my passport in Moscow about 15 years ago. My pants pocket had a big hole and it fell through. Got it back in a few hours. Long story there. US Embassy would’ve issued a temp replacement quickly. Problem was Russia required exit visas to leave the country and that would’ve taken weeks to get.

Wife wasn’t too happy with me that day. My friends loved the story.

NJ DMV is the worst. NY can be much better. They have an office in Manhattan for the yuppies who move in to get them new license and plates with no fuss.
 

Bagarocks

Heisman
Jun 25, 2006
12,969
13,639
113
Am I right that I need a certified copy of my birth certificate for Real ID?
If you were born before 1965 I believe, there is info missing from BC's 1966 and after.
Last time I got my passport they told me this would be the last time I could use my BC cuz regs were changing.
My wife had hers done years ago, just went to County...
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
122,393
38,134
113
Lost my passport in Moscow about 15 years ago. My pants pocket had a big hole and it fell through. Got it back in a few hours. Long story there. US Embassy would’ve issued a temp replacement quickly. Problem was Russia required exit visas to leave the country and that would’ve taken weeks to get.

Wife wasn’t too happy with me that day. My friends loved the story.

NJ DMV is the worst. NY can be much better. They have an office in Manhattan for the yuppies who move in to get them new license and plates with no fuss.
I’m sorry but there has to be more to tge story we would love to hear…
 
  • Like
Reactions: RUDutch

Retired711

Heisman
Nov 20, 2001
19,971
10,150
58
Lost my passport in Moscow about 15 years ago. My pants pocket had a big hole and it fell through. Got it back in a few hours. Long story there. US Embassy would’ve issued a temp replacement quickly. Problem was Russia required exit visas to leave the country and that would’ve taken weeks to get.

Wife wasn’t too happy with me that day. My friends loved the story.

NJ DMV is the worst. NY can be much better. They have an office in Manhattan for the yuppies who move in to get them new license and plates with no fuss.
This is why the good Lord invented moneybelts.
 

T2Kplus20

Heisman
May 1, 2007
31,868
19,842
113
Most likely but depends on where you’re going. I made my appointment in Rip Grande so that was their first appointments. Could be different where you’re going
FYI - at the OC and having dinner at Piccini. Boardwalk pretty crowded. Stopped off for rides after most of the day in SH. Any update on Gillian’s?
 
  • Like
Reactions: newell138

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
30,709
19,818
0
Passport card.
OK. I like that vs/ carrying around the book but it has it's own limitations. We're cruising in 3 weeks and I would have liked to have this but while it would work in Mexico (Cozumel) it doesn't appear to work in Belize or Honduras.

Hey I got both the real ID and a passport so I'm just fine. 1 for domestic and 1 for international. Crap last cruise I took last year they used facial and I never once took out my passport.
 

e5fdny

Heisman
Nov 11, 2002
114,363
53,495
102
Passport card.

OK. I like that vs/ carrying around the book but it has it's own limitations. We're cruising in 3 weeks and I would have liked to have this but while it would work in Mexico (Cozumel) it doesn't appear to work in Belize or Honduras.

Hey I got both the real ID and a passport so I'm just fine. 1 for domestic and 1 for international. Crap last cruise I took last year they used facial and I never once took out my passport.
Aren’t there some limitations on the use of the passport card?
 

fsg2_rivals

Heisman
Apr 3, 2018
10,881
13,184
0
If someone has a passport, isn’t this sort of an no issue. If you don’t, why not?
Issue for anyone who doesn't want to carry a passport around.

My wallet is like half the size of a passport, prefer to not triple my pocket. As someone else said, passport is also more valuable so don't want to carry everywhere.

WhyI got a real ID tears ago before one of the original deadlines.
 

newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
36,991
47,526
112
FYI - at the OC and having dinner at Piccini. Boardwalk pretty crowded. Stopped off for rides after most of the day in SH. Any update on Gillian’s?
Boards were crowded all day. Gillian’s still working on that Icona spot but it’s dragging
 
  • Like
Reactions: T2Kplus20

RU05

All-American
Jun 25, 2015
14,840
9,239
113
My daughter had an 8:30 appointment at the Elizabeth MVC a few Saturdays past. She was done in about 20 minutes.
I find most MVC visits to be pretty smooth. My sister recently had to jump through a **** ton of hoops to get her license back(all self inflicted so not laying this on the MVC) so I was making numerous trips to the agency formerly known as the DMV.

And with the invent of the smart phone, even those where I have to wait aren't that bad. Check my stocks, check some sports scores, come to this board see what's going on. It's no big whoop.

I did just re up my license but didn't get the Real. I have a passport and don't see it as a necessity, but given my picture came out really bad, maybe I'll upgrade.
 

Fat Koko

All-Conference
Nov 28, 2022
3,650
3,037
73
I’m sorry but there has to be more to tge story we would love to hear…
On our last day in Moscow, we went to the VDNKh park, a huge Stalin era park that is the Soviet version of Epcot Center, with pavilions based on Soviet regions like the Kazakhstan pavilion and other such as the agriculture pavilion. That is where I lost my passport.

Rushed back to hotel to check my luggage. The reason I had my passport with me is we had checked out and I didn’t trust anything important would stay in my luggage at the hotel. No passport.

So go to US Embassy. Wife panicking. At this point she just wanted to get out of Russia because after 8 or 9 days there she couldn’t stand it anymore.

Get there about 3:30pm and embassy guy says we can do temp passport in 24-48 hours but office closes at 4pm. Need passport photos so I leave embassy and run to a photo place that does this. My wife stays to furiously fill in forms.

Get back to embassy with photos and I’m told passport was found by “Polish” man. We had to go to travel agency that arranged our entry and exit visas. Rush over there and are told a police man has my passport and he speaks some English. Go back to the VDNKh and he’ll be waiting for you at a meet up point.

I find the guy and his partner and the four of us go to a corrugated metal shed. Cop asks me questions about Virginia which I thought was odd but I answered them. Then, he places the passport on the table, I place a few rubles there on advice of the visa travel agency, and get the hell out of VDNKh.

Return to hotel, get luggage and make the overnight train to Helsinki.

Funniest was despite all the security drama, one reason we went is my wife dreamed of visiting the gymnastic facility at the Dynamo sport club. Guards waved us into complex and we walked into and around the gymnastics facility with no problems.
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
122,393
38,134
113
On our last day in Moscow, we went to the VDNKh park, a huge Stalin era park that is the Soviet version of Epcot Center, with pavilions based on Soviet regions like the Kazakhstan pavilion and other such as the agriculture pavilion. That is where I lost my passport.

Rushed back to hotel to check my luggage. The reason I had my passport with me is we had checked out and I didn’t trust anything important would stay in my luggage at the hotel. No passport.

So go to US Embassy. Wife panicking. At this point she just wanted to get out of Russia because after 8 or 9 days there she couldn’t stand it anymore.

Get there about 3:30pm and embassy guy says we can do temp passport in 24-48 hours but office closes at 4pm. Need passport photos so I leave embassy and run to a photo place that does this. My wife stays to furiously fill in forms.

Get back to embassy with photos and I’m told passport was found by “Polish” man. We had to go to travel agency that arranged our entry and exit visas. Rush over there and are told a police man has my passport and he speaks some English. Go back to the VDNKh and he’ll be waiting for you at a meet up point.

I find the guy and his partner and the four of us go to a corrugated metal shed. Cop asks me questions about Virginia which I thought was odd but I answered them. Then, he places the passport on the table, I place a few rubles there on advice of the visa travel agency, and get the hell out of VDNKh.

Return to hotel, get luggage and make the overnight train to Helsinki.

Funniest was despite all the security drama, one reason we went is my wife dreamed of visiting the gymnastic facility at the Dynamo sport club. Guards waved us into complex and we walked into and around the gymnastics facility with no problems.
Had to be so stressful. I had a passport nightmare of my own. I had lost my passport somewhere here at home but needed to to do some international travel, so, off to Phily I go to get a new one...Needed it for a Presidents Club trip with my wife, so, had to rush it.

Get it, no problem, make the trip.

Not long after, find the lost passport and just throw it in our locked drawer with our other passport. A couple of months later- my BIL passes away in Jamaica and wife and I have to make a last minute trip for his funeral.

Book it, grab our passports and off we go...

Land in Jamaica and as we are waiting for luggage- they come and take me off the line and into a back room- wife insists on staying with me...Find out, I had grabbed my "lost" passport and not the replacement. As a dumbass- I really had not thought about it. But when you lose it and need to replace it- you have to declare it lost/stolen...So- here I am traveling with a declared "stolen" passport. We give them the story and explain we are there for her brother's funeral. They allow me in- as it is obvious, it is me. But, for a few tense moments- it was a bit scary. - Oh yeah, they also lost her luggage.
I asked them if I would run into any problems going back to the U.S. and they said I would not and they had made the notification on my records.

Of course- the final day and we are returning home...wife got food poisoning and can't keep anything down and just so sick. But, we get on the flight. Keep in mind- she is a Jamaican woman(US Citizen) - and she is on the flight so sick and she had this brand new suitcase.
We get off the flight, and of course- in come the authorities to take us straight into the back rooms again. I am on a stolen passport and she is a Jamaican woman getting off the flight from Jamaica with a brand new suitcase and obviously very ill. We get back there and she asks to go to the bathroom to get sick- they made her throw up into a bi and under watch. And even going to the bathroom- she had to do it with an open door and a woman security standing less than 2 feet away who had to look at what she left in the toilet.
They are thinking she is a mule with a broken packet.

4 hours later and her getting sick at least 2 more times- they finally let us go.

And of course- I never heard the end of taken the wrong passport.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: newell138

Willow88!

Senior
Oct 13, 2014
867
803
0
There were even mobile MVC units that were traveling to NJ towns over the past few years to help people convert to the REAL ID. This has been publicized and extended….plenty of opportunity to have it taken care of by now.
...yes.. but they should still have more MVC units... as the deadline approached, the MVC was well aware of how many NJ license residents did not update to REAL ID, so they should have pushed for the additional appointment increase, kept or increase mobile MVC units until they saw the number reduce that were still outstanding. Like MACY's staffs up for the holiday... yes this is on me, and other state residents, but it is as much on them as well until sorted.
 

vkj91

Heisman
Feb 7, 2007
188,361
49,500
98
I haven’t read this whole thread maybe it’s been addressed. But if i have a valid drivers license why can’t I just walk in to DMV and exchange it for a real ID. This whole points thing is stupid. I have to open BS bank accounts for my kids and weight x number of days now. You can get a passport with less BS
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
122,393
38,134
113
I haven’t read this whole thread maybe it’s been addressed. But if i have a valid drivers license why can’t I just walk in to DMV and exchange it for a real ID. This whole points thing is stupid. I have to open BS bank accounts for my kids and weight x number of days now. You can get a passport with less BS
It is a pain in the *** unless your DL is up for renewal- and then it is easier. You have to set an appointment for real ID and that is backlogged as NJ now assigns specific locations for specific needs.
My wife needed to do something at DMV a couple of years ago- I forget exactly what it was but the closest location to Franklin Lakes that could do it was in Lakewood.
 

Rhuarc

All-American
Jul 25, 2001
6,479
7,015
113
...yes.. but they should still have more MVC units... as the deadline approached, the MVC was well aware of how many NJ license residents did not update to REAL ID, so they should have pushed for the additional appointment increase, kept or increase mobile MVC units until they saw the number reduce that were still outstanding. Like MACY's staffs up for the holiday... yes this is on me, and other state residents, but it is as much on them as well until sorted.
They must be reading The Knight Report....

 
  • Like
Reactions: RU205

vkj91

Heisman
Feb 7, 2007
188,361
49,500
98
It is a pain in the *** unless your DL is up for renewal- and then it is easier. You have to set an appointment for real ID and that is backlogged as NJ now assigns specific locations for specific needs.
My wife needed to do something at DMV a couple of years ago- I forget exactly what it was but the closest location to Franklin Lakes that could do it was in Lakewood.
Every Wednesday night at 12 they release new times for the next day
 
  • Like
Reactions: RU205

kupuna133

All-American
Jul 13, 2015
6,826
7,598
113
Got my Real ID years ago during Covid. Had to go to Rahway to get done. What a disaster that place is. Was there for well over an hour and had to “educate” what is acceptable forms of ID. Luckily had the form printed out from their website and an email from one of the DMV directors in Trenton with me.

Wife needed the Real ID signed her up to go to a Mobile DMV in Neptune a couple of weeks ago. Look into this option if available. She was in and out in 20 minutes.
 

RU206

All-American
Jan 23, 2015
5,115
5,160
113
Got my Real ID years ago during Covid. Had to go to Rahway to get done. What a disaster that place is. Was there for well over an hour and had to “educate” what is acceptable forms of ID. Luckily had the form printed out from their website and an email from one of the DMV directors in Trenton with me.

Wife needed the Real ID signed her up to go to a Mobile DMV in Neptune a couple of weeks ago. Look into this option if available. She was in and out in 20 minutes.
I have avoided Rahway DMV since I took my driving test there almost 35 years ago. It was a mess back then, I can't imagine what it's like now.
 

kupuna133

All-American
Jul 13, 2015
6,826
7,598
113
I have avoided Rahway DMV since I took my driving test there almost 35 years ago. It was a mess back then, I can't imagine what it's like now.
Yea it was 3rd world country like. Only place in the state that had appointments. Had to call in a favor to get that one too.

What amazed me was there were only 2 of us there for real ID everyone else was getting a “government id”. Place was an absolute mob scene. No room in the lots
 
  • Like
Reactions: Fat Koko