OT: NFL 2025 Playoff Games Thread

NickRU714

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They should run with Cutlets as QB this year and draft Manning in '26

Isn't the major outcome of Daniels and Nix (and Anthony Richardson on the flip side) that experience matters?

I haven't seen anything of Arch but he has less than 100 pass attempts in college over 2 years.

Alternatively, Daniels had nearly 1,000 attempts in 5 years of college.
Bo Nix nearly 1,300.
Richardson had just over 200.
 

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Isn't the major outcome of Daniels and Nix (and Anthony Richardson on the flip side) that experience matters?

I haven't seen anything of Arch but he has less than 100 pass attempts in college over 2 years.

Alternatively, Daniels had nearly 1,000 attempts in 5 years of college.
Bo Nix nearly 1,300.
Richardson had just over 200.
Yes, strongly agree but also can't ignore that they're both with gifted offensive minds.

I'm less worried about experience if a guy has 2 hall of fame uncles and has been thinking the game at a different level his whole life.
 
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NickRU714

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Yes, strongly agree but also can't ignore that they're both with gifted offensive minds.

I'm less worried about experience if a guy has 2 hall of fame uncles and has been thinking the game at a different level his whole life.

That's a great point I hadn't considered.
Arch Manning likely has more "reps" as a QB growing up than it appears just looking at his official stats.
 
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Isn't the major outcome of Daniels and Nix (and Anthony Richardson on the flip side) that experience matters?

I haven't seen anything of Arch but he has less than 100 pass attempts in college over 2 years.

Alternatively, Daniels had nearly 1,000 attempts in 5 years of college.
Bo Nix nearly 1,300.
Richardson had just over 200.
That would seem to warrant a change in the way the NFL evaluates QBs. One of the biggest criticisms of Nix and Daniels was that they spent so much time in college.
 

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Love these fake tough guy comments. Can only assume you're talking about Hurts, who could literally end your life. You really want them to ban sliding? Such a dumb comment.

Sliding definitely has to be revisited. Too many QBs are waiting too long to slide and putting themselves in danger of getting hammered... which then ends up being the defender's fault. If you slide with your head up just as a 230+ lb linebacker is barreling in on you... you need to own part of the fault for your clock getting cleaned.

Eli Manning did a demo piece on sliding, how he always slid with his chest to the side/ground and protecting his head, and he never had any problems. Waiting until the last second to then slide like you're going into second base is setting yourself up for the concussion protocol.

Also the QBs who make it look like they are going to run OOB, then tip toe the sideline to get more yardage. If they get lit up out of bounds by a safety later in the game, that's on them - they taught the defense not to trust them looking like they are running OOB.

Some of the rules to protect QBs have led to QBs putting themselves more in harm's way thinking a line in the rulebook is going to stop them from getting injured.
 

Rhuarc

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Sliding definitely has to be revisited. Too many QBs are waiting too long to slide and putting themselves in danger of getting hammered... which then ends up being the defender's fault. If you slide with your head up just as a 230+ lb linebacker is barreling in on you... you need to own part of the fault for your clock getting cleaned.

Eli Manning did a demo piece on sliding, how he always slid with his chest to the side/ground and protecting his head, and he never had any problems. Waiting until the last second to then slide like you're going into second base is setting yourself up for the concussion protocol.

Also the QBs who make it look like they are going to run OOB, then tip toe the sideline to get more yardage. If they get lit up out of bounds by a safety later in the game, that's on them - they taught the defense not to trust them looking like they are running OOB.

Some of the rules to protect QBs have led to QBs putting themselves more in harm's way thinking a line in the rulebook is going to stop them from getting injured.
Hurts is notorious for not sliding safely or quickly enough.
 

ashokan

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But Barkley would have wasted a season behind
the Giants OL.
Probably - but now he has Eagles a baby's breath from SB.
The GM could see how much Mara wanted to keep Saquon (who was a team leader on team that has few).
Schoen can be a little vindictive as we learned (telling a player not to pay his rent since he wont be around)
He wanted to get rid of SB for media battle and team discord - "ship him out" imo.
This from a team playing a WR 40.5m for 43 receptions and 1 TD in 2 years
 

RUPete

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Probably - but now he has Eagles a baby's breath from SB.
The GM could see how much Mara wanted to keep Saquon (who was a team leader on team that has few).
Schoen can be a little vindictive as we learned (telling a player not to pay his rent since he wont be around)
He wanted to get rid of SB for media battle and team discord - "ship him out" imo.
This from a team playing a WR 40.5m for 43 receptions and 1 TD in 2 years
I have to side with @mdk01 here. He wouldn’t be doing this behind the Giants current line. It’s pretty amazing that he did what he did behind those lines. That said, we all heard why Schoen made his call on SB. It was about investing in the OL to protect a QB that they mistakenly spent too much on. You can understand why he did it, just didn’t work out.
 

ashokan

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I have to side with @mdk01 here. He wouldn’t be doing this behind the Giants current line. It’s pretty amazing that he did what he did behind those lines. That said, we all heard why Schoen made his call on SB. It was about investing in the OL to protect a QB that they mistakenly spent too much on. You can understand why he did it, just didn’t work out.

Obviously Saquon is behind a much better line in Philly but I dont get the "its ok he's gone because Giants OL is bad." Get rid of other players because Giants are no good? If you have a good player that the fans and owners like, and is a team leader/marquee player then you should keep him.

Giants problem with OL is they've flopped in the draft with oversized beasts who cant dance. They had enough 1st/2nd rounders that the line should be great by now. DLs run right past Neal

Flowers #9
Neal #7
Thomas #4
Hernandez #34

How many teams would flop so much with OL picks?
I know there have been injuries with with Giants there are always too many injuries and every year its the big excuse.
Get new S&C crew, get better gym machines, hire ballet teachers to teach stretching, avoid the steroid guys (often hurt).
AN undersized Brickhouse (Jets All Pro) is better than a huge pig in a poke benching 225 40x.
 
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I wish Barkley would've signed a longer-term contract with Jints. Didn't matter this season for my Boyz but he was much less of a threat on a bad Giants team, he looks like the missing piece for a legitimate Philly SB contender for more years ahead. And with Jayden Daniels already better than Dak, Dallas will be battling for Wild Cards as far as the eye can see.
 
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RUPete

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Obviously Saquon is behind a much better line in Philly but I dont get the "its ok he's gone because Giants OL is bad." Get rid of other players because Giants are no good? If you have a good player that the fans and owners like, and is a team leader/marquee player then you should keep him.

Giants problem with OL is they've flopped in the draft with oversized beasts who cant dance. They had enough 1st/2nd rounders that the line should be great by now.

Flowers #9
Neal #7
Thomas #4
Hernandez #34

How many teams would flop so much with OL picks?
I know there have been injuries with with Giants there are always too many injuries and every year its the big excuse.
Get new S&C crew, get better gym machines, hire ballet teachers to teach stretching, avoid the steroid guys (often hurt) - whatever.
AN undersized Brickhouse (Jets All Pro) is better than a huge pig in a poke benching 225 40x.
I can’t argue with any of this, but would it make sense paying SB what the Eagles paid him with all of those problems?
 

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I wish Barkley would've signed a longer-term contract with Jints. Didn't matter this season for my Boyz but he was much less of a threat on a bad Giants team, he looks like the missing piece for a legitimate Philly SB contender for more years ahead. And with Jayden Daniels already better than Dak, Dallas will be battling for Wild Cards as far as the eye can see.
Daniels really looks like the real deal. Lots of poise and killer accuracy. @Rhuarc - perhaps the curse was lifted on the franchise once Synder was forced to sell?