OT: Monmouth Park

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Apparently just you! Good day. And you trolled me so...
BTW they have never had live racing on Mother's Day. That is how stupid and uniformed about Monmouth Park you are! What a dumb ***. Just you being a troll!

Never had live racing on Mothers Day, really? LMFAO!!!! Should I link every year they have on here? Phi-1055 listed 2018, I'll list 2019, so yea, I guess there are a few people calling you out on being the all knowing Mr. Monmouth Park expert, too funny. Tell me who looks stupid and uninformed now? Can't wait to hear this answer!!! Will you double down when your wrong, or just go crickets on this? Our family has always enjoyed taking the Mom's in our families there every year, as I said for the last 15 years, big group of 12-15, and always growing. Never again. https://mommypoppins.com/new-jersey-kids/event/outdoor/mothers-day-at-monmouth-park-0...

 

[WhiteBus]

https://www.monmouthpark.com/news-notes/monmouth-park-promotions-abound-on-mothers-day-may-13/

2018

Monmouth Park has plenty in store for moms and racing fans alike to complement an 11-race card of live racing on Mother’s Day, Sunday, May 13.

All ladies will be admitted free to the track on Mother’s Day, with the first 1,000 ladies also receiving free carnations. Additionally, there will be a Mother’s Day Champagne Bar outside the Grandstand in the paddock area.

There will also be drawings for a Monmouth Mall shopping spree, Ed Sheeran tickets, jewelry, an Ocean Place spa trip and In the Garden flower shop.

As is the case every Sunday of live racing it will also be Family Fun Day, with free clowns, face painters, a bounce house and pony rides for children 12 and under.

Following the races, Chuck Lambert will provide the musical entertainment at the Beer Garden at Blu Grotto. The William Hill Sports Bar will offer post-race Happy Hour Specials as well.

Great get. Should have remembered the change. My bad!

 

[WhiteBus]

Never had live racing on Mothers Day, really? LMFAO!!!! Should I link every year they have on here? Phi-1055 listed 2018, I'll list 2019, so yea, I guess there are a few people calling you out on being the all knowing Mr. Monmouth Park expert, too funny. Tell me who looks stupid and uninformed now? Can't wait to hear this answer!!! Will you double down when your wrong, or just go crickets on this? Our family has always enjoyed taking the Mom's in our families there every year, as I said for the last 15 years, big group of 12-15, and always growing. Never again. https://mommypoppins.com/new-jersey-kids/event/outdoor/mothers-day-at-monmouth-park-0...

Don't take the credit yourself because you went crickets when I posted the wrong info. @Phi_1055 gets all the credit for proving me wrong! 15 years? Mother's Day? Look who is wrong now!!

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Don't take the credit yourself because you went crickets when I posted the wrong info. @Phi_1055 gets all the credit for proving me wrong! 15 years? Mother's Day? Look who is wrong now!!

Zero credits Mr Monmouth Park. How does that change the fact we go when they declare it Their Mother's Day. I didn't need anyone to prove I've seen live racing at Monmouth Park on Mother's Day, I've been there,done that. Stupid and uninformed doesn't get to walk back his comment. How's your Phillies doing, lmfao

 

[WhiteBus]

Zero credits Mr Monmouth Park. How does that change the fact we go when they declare it Their Mother's Day. I didn't need anyone to prove I've seen live racing at Monmouth Park on Mother's Day, I've been there,done that. Stupid and uninformed doesn't get to walk back his comment. How's your Phillies doing, lmfao

Yes you did need someone to figure it out. And you are lying you have been doing it for 15 years, which you haven't figured out. I was wrong about never on Mothers Day. Just admit that 15 years at MP with you and your family in the picnic area on Mother's Day is a complete myth!

 

[rcube1994]

My understanding from speaking with a local trainer is that the contract with whoever is running the concessions does not allow coolers. Alcohol board/covid is just a convenient excuse. Sounds like monmouth park ownership is maximizing their profit through the contract, but the concession company is going to take it on the chin. They probably did not realize how much taking a cooler to the picnic area is part of the monmouth park experience. Also short sighted by monmouth park ownership, losing long time patrons.

I usually go ~10 times a year, will definitely decrease significantly.

 

[WhiteBus]

My understanding from speaking with a local trainer is that the contract with whoever is running the concessions does not allow coolers. Alcohol board/covid is just a convenient excuse. Sounds like monmouth park ownership is maximizing their profit through the contract, but the concession company is going to take it on the chin. They probably did not realize how much taking a cooler to the picnic area is part of the monmouth park experience. Also short sighted by monmouth park ownership, losing long time patrons.

I usually go ~10 times a year, will definitely decrease significantly.

Yes the contract gives the exclusive rights to sell in the building and just outside but the contract doesn't include the picnic area. Since you go often you should remember the signs when you leave picnic area and head towards the building. So that isn't stopping it. Agree the concessions are going to get crushed. And how many will actually be open.
In going on the 4th to keep a tradition going with my older brother. Beyond that who knows

 

[Phi_1055]

Even though coolers were prohibited in 2020 you were permitted to bring in a small amount food and soft drinks/water bottles as long as they were in bags and not coolers. I did it many times with no issues.

This year the stated policy is no outside food or beverages permitted. Nobody has answered the telephone the few times I’ve called to ask if there are no accommodations made for people with strict dietary restrictions. I don’t have any restrictions but some friends and family do.

 

[cicero grimes]

My understanding from speaking with a local trainer is that the contract with whoever is running the concessions does not allow coolers. Alcohol board/covid is just a convenient excuse. Sounds like monmouth park ownership is maximizing their profit through the contract, but the concession company is going to take it on the chin. They probably did not realize how much taking a cooler to the picnic area is part of the monmouth park experience. Also short sighted by monmouth park ownership, losing long time patrons.

I usually go ~10 times a year, will definitely decrease significantly.

I heard the same thing from a relative who works in the park. Apparently they signed an agreement with the same concession company that handles the concessions at Yankee Stadium. The track gets their money up front and the concessionaire gets all the $$$ during the meet. The giveback to the concessionaire was no outside food or beverages. Like you, I usually go about ten times a year and host a bbq in the picnic area and a 10 person lunch in the restaurant. Both those things are off this year and I probably will not be back until this contract expires.

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

It's been happening since 2013, so yea, Fathers Day has been more consistent, but still, where have you been the last 8 years on Mothers Day, surely not Monmouth Park.https://www.monmouthpark.com/news-notes/mello-groove-kicks-clear-to-capture-mothers-day-feature/ https://blog.jerseyshoreinmotion.com/2016/05/this-week-at-monmouth-park-opening-day-2016/ Posted on trip Advisor. May 16, 2013 · Reviewed May 13, 2013 . Live Horse Racing. We spent Mother's Day at Monmouth Park. I wanted to spend the day doing something different, and this definitely was what I was looking for.

 

[WhiteBus]

It's been happening since 2013, so yea, Fathers Day has been more consistent, but still, where have you been the last 8 years on Mothers Day, surely not Monmouth Park.https://www.monmouthpark.com/news-notes/mello-groove-kicks-clear-to-capture-mothers-day-feature/ https://blog.jerseyshoreinmotion.com/2016/05/this-week-at-monmouth-park-opening-day-2016/ Posted on trip Advisor. May 16, 2013 · Reviewed May 13, 2013 . Live Horse Racing. We spent Mother's Day at Monmouth Park. I wanted to spend the day doing something different, and this definitely was what I was looking for.

So you admit it was 7 years not 15. Finally fesses up that you were lying.

 

[RUDead]

They are doing everything they can to drive the crowds away. Makes no sense.

 

[cicero grimes]

They are doing everything they can to drive the crowds away. Makes no sense.

I think it shows a lack of understanding as to knowing what is important to your customer base. I have been to the track on weekends when the grandstand is basically empty but you look over to the picnic area or even the benches up front by the rail and they are packed. I get that on paper getting your money up front for the concessions may make sense since those are guaranteed dollars but you have to weigh that against the cost of its effect on your fan base.
I liken it to RU eliminating tailgating in the lots and saying any food or beverages have to be bought from their concessionaires in the parking lots. I think a lot of our fanbase would have a problem with that and they would lose season ticket holders.
From what I understand from someone who works in management at the track, they have gotten a lot of complaints and attendance is down. Time will tell if that has any effect on their current business model.

 

[WhiteBus]

I heard the same thing from a relative who works in the park. Apparently they signed an agreement with the same concession company that handles the concessions at Yankee Stadium. The track gets their money up front and the concessionaire gets all the $$$ during the meet. The giveback to the concessionaire was no outside food or beverages. Like you, I usually go about ten times a year and host a bbq in the picnic area and a 10 person lunch in the restaurant. Both those things are off this year and I probably will not be back until this contract expires.

The Yankee concession is owned by them and Jerry Jones. Called Legends. They don't list Monmouth Park as a client. Maybe just not up to date.

 

[cicero grimes]

The Yankee concession is owned by them and Jerry Jones. Called Legends. They don't list Monmouth Park as a client. Maybe just not up to date.

I am pretty sure that was the name the person I spoke with told me had the concession. Said it was the same company that does the Yanks. And I don't blame the concessionaire on making the no outside food or beverage demand part of the contract. I would ask for the same thing in a negotiation. I blame the track for not knowing its customer base.

 

[RUDead]

I think it shows a lack of understanding as to knowing what is important to your customer base. I have been to the track on weekends when the grandstand is basically empty but you look over to the picnic area or even the benches up front by the rail and they are packed. I get that on paper getting your money up front for the concessions may make sense since those are guaranteed dollars but you have to weigh that against the cost of its effect on your fan base.
I liken it to RU eliminating tailgating in the lots and saying any food or beverages have to be bought from their concessionaires in the parking lots. I think a lot of our fanbase would have a problem with that and they would lose season ticket holders.
From what I understand from someone who works in management at the track, they have gotten a lot of complaints and attendance is down. Time will tell if that has any effect on their current business model.

I have been going there forever and hardly go any more. The new group that took over had a HUGE opportunity to upgrade that place and make it a destination for a much broader audience. They went cheap on everything. Food isn't good, beer choices are terrible. They have a ton of space inside and its dirty, crowded and woefully outdated. The restaurants are a joke, one looks like someone's grandmother's kitchen (forget the name right now).

They know the horse business is dying and there aren't doing anything to bring in new customers (except the food trucks and a couple of other festivals). They need permanent solutions that bring in people on a regular basis, like a massive high end sports book. No imagination at all.

 

[cicero grimes]

I have been going there forever and hardly go any more. The new group that took over had a HUGE opportunity to upgrade that place and make it a destination for a much broader audience. They went cheap on everything. Food isn't good, beer choices are terrible. They have a ton of space inside and its dirty, crowded and woefully outdated. The restaurants are a joke, one looks like someone's grandmother's kitchen (forget the name right now).

They know the horse business is dying and there aren't doing anything to bring in new customers (except the food trucks and a couple of other festivals). They need permanent solutions that bring in people on a regular basis, like a massive high end sports book. No imagination at all.

I agree with you 100%. They made a bet (no pun intended) that sports wagering would save them but it really has not improved the experience. With the proliferation of on line sports books you do not need to go to Monmouth to bet. What the track really needs is slots/video poker. That has helped a lot of tracks improve both the facilities as well as the purses for the races which in turn attracts better horses.

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

So you admit it was 7 years not 15. Finally fesses up that you were lying.

Not lying,just off that it's been longer going on Father's Day,but still we always start the Monmouth Park season on or around Mother's Day. It's way more accurate than your Never been live racing on Mother's Day. Hardly trying to lie, and your comment of me being stupid and ignorant sure looks comical, don't you think Mr. Monmouth Park? It's been around for 9 years, fool.

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

I have been going there forever and hardly go any more. The new group that took over had a HUGE opportunity to upgrade that place and make it a destination for a much broader audience. They went cheap on everything. Food isn't good, beer choices are terrible. They have a ton of space inside and its dirty, crowded and woefully outdated. The restaurants are a joke, one looks like someone's grandmother's kitchen (forget the name right now).

They know the horse business is dying and there aren't doing anything to bring in new customers (except the food trucks and a couple of other festivals). They need permanent solutions that bring in people on a regular basis, like a massive high end sports book. No imagination at all.

What ever happened to the plan of building a huge indoor water park and a 4 star hotel?

 

[RUDead]

What ever happened to the plan of building a huge indoor water park and a 4 star hotel?

Heard rumors of a lot of plans but didn't see much actually get done.

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

I think it shows a lack of understanding as to knowing what is important to your customer base. I have been to the track on weekends when the grandstand is basically empty but you look over to the picnic area or even the benches up front by the rail and they are packed. I get that on paper getting your money up front for the concessions may make sense since those are guaranteed dollars but you have to weigh that against the cost of its effect on your fan base.
I liken it to RU eliminating tailgating in the lots and saying any food or beverages have to be bought from their concessionaires in the parking lots. I think a lot of our fanbase would have a problem with that and they would lose season ticket holders.
From what I understand from someone who works in management at the track, they have gotten a lot of complaints and attendance is down. Time will tell if that has any effect on their current business model.

Dead on Money grab has killed the track attendance

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Heard rumors of a lot of plans but didn't see much actually get done.

There's a article as far back as 2014 on the water park and hotel.Talk about dragging their feet

 

[Plum Street]

Does the track even care who they are squeezing out ? They are getting tvg and William hill revenue .

 

[rcube1994]

Anyone know who is the driving force behind the whip ban? Obviously came down from the NJ racing commission, but wonder who/why this was necessary. Dont have a problem limiting it so they dont beat the crap out of the horse but seems a bit excessive.

Having been following it closely, has it had an impact on racing so far? Any jockeys suspended/fined or whatever the penalties are?

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

So you admit it was 7 years not 15. Finally fesses up that you were lying.

Actually, my math was off, 2013, would be 9 Mothers Days back. Your not exactly up on all things Monmouth Park

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Wow, I had forgotten a concert venue also. https://tworivertimes.com/monmouth-park-plans-expanded-attractions/

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

Great get. Should have remembered the change. My bad!

It was only 9 years ago, lol

 

[WhiteBus]

Actually, my math was off, 2013, would be 9 Mothers Days back. Your not exactly up on all things Monmouth Park

There was no Mothers Day racing last year or this year. Track opened up July last year and opened Memorial Day Weekend this year. It's you that is not up on whats going on. I'm sure 8 of the years sitting in a closed Monmouth Park on Mother's Day was a blast with you and your family

 

[rureadyforsomefootball]

There was no Mothers Day racing last year or this year. Track opened up July last year and opened Memorial Day Weekend this year. It's you that is not up on whats going on. I'm sure 8 of the years sitting in a closed Monmouth Park on Mother's Day was a blast with you and your family

I'll move on, your not worth it, point is, you didn't know Mothers Day had live racing as far back as 2013, yet called me stupid and ignorant for thinking it ever happened. Your words, not mine. On to the next topic in some yet unnamed thread, that I'm sure you'll attack me whether I'm right or wrong. It's what you do all over these threads. Example This is Rhuarc responding to another of your attacks.

You are ridiculous, so I stopped arguing with you. I'm guessing others felt the same.

You were wrong with the facts you posted when you posted it and you wouldn't own up to it.