Haven’t watched since 1995 fiasco. And like Madhat, remember going to Ebbets, Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium many times as a kid. Also Polo Grounds and Shea when Mets came along.
OT: MLB lockout
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The players got taken to the woodshed the last two collective bargaining agreements and they are trying to make it all up on this agreement. From what I read, the owner's offer was a step in a positive direction with huge increases to the minimum salary which helps the bottom 60% of the league. The proposed agreement would be a win for the players. Overall, hard to like either side of this dispute as Scherzer shows up to negotiations in his Porsche and the owners show up in their private planes.
It’s a showcase league for those type of players.
Would be nice if something like the arrangement with the Blue Jays happens again…a Triple AAA club plays in Trenton.
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Porsche aside, I find Scherzer's altruism very likeable.
Scherzer has made his money. Personally, he benefits nothing from the results of this negotiation. The lockout only hurts him. Yet there he is, negotiating vigorously on matters from which he himself will never benefit. Why? Because he knows that the sacrifices of others before him helped get him where he is today. Now it is his turn to pay it forward, and he does so gladly.
The average is skewed upward by the superstars. The median is $1.1MM. That is just the major leaguers. It doesn't include minor leaguers who are on the 40 man roster, and who are not getting MLB money at all, but who are directly impacted by the negotiations. Of course, ALL minor leaguers with realistic MLB aspirations are indirectly affected by the negotiations.
Yeah but...I could live on that 1.1 easy. Oh wait, after taxes, maybe 700k and that may only be for a year or two and then I have another 35-40 years where I have to figure out how to make a living?
Being sarcastic, but I know someone is going to come up on how easy it is to live your life on 1.1 million a year...and how they would play the game for free.
It’s times like this that make me laugh - it’s the fans that should lock-out players/owners of all leagues by refusing to attend games until they are more affordable. The cost of the game day experience is ridiculous. 20+ years ago family outings to sports venue was the norm. Now, I don’t know any family that goes with any level of consistency and the reason always seems to be the cost.
You get a job like the rest of us and those minor league players who don't make it.
Max Scherzer is getting his $15 Million in deferred compensation from the Nationals July 1, lockout or no lockout. That's enough to field an entire team, right?
agree and the players have a right to be paid for their talent that makes the fans go to the games and/or watch on TV in which the business profits.
The profits the owners have made didn't keep them from shafting a lot of their minor league affiliates .
The MLB owners made a business decision that hurt minor league baseball owners, towns and players.
That was their right to do as owners of a business.
MLB players know they are just commodities to be bought ,sold or traded if they don't protect themselves and are talented enough to make that protection put in their contract with ownership.
Players also know that they will be released if they haven't produced like expected during the course of their contract .
So it should be understood that MLB players will try to get the best deal when they sign contracts for their service, knowing they are the reason people come to the game and TV Networks pay exorbitant fees for fans to watch those games on their TV
Players also know their careers will end when they stop producing enough to help their club attract fans.
It's just good business to get the most dollars for the product you offer.
If a free agent player demands more than the owners feel he's worth, he'll have to except less or sit out without pay waiting for an owner to offer what he deems acceptable.
The owners ultimilty decide what the player's worth to them and it could be over that $4.2 mil because that player helps the businesses bottom line when he's playing.
No it is not. And it is irrelevant to my point. Scherzer, and every other veteran superstar in the negotiations, gain nothing from any of this. Their self-interest is to cave. They're getting theirs anyway. They are doing this for those who will follow them.
That is obvious- the point I was making is how many fans will think that $1.1 mil to play a kids game is crazy and these guys shouldn't complain.
It is also very tough for these guys too. They are usually making a decision to end their dream and already depressed. And then they get hit with a realization that they are going to start at the bottom somewhere for $20 per hour or less.
I remember that happening with our son. I believe back in 2010, a rookie deal in the NFL for an UFA was 4 years 1.32 mil and I think year 4 was just under 700k.
When he finally retired in year 4 due to injury, he had to go get a "real" job like the rest of us. And even with a Rutgers degree - he was getting offered sales jobs with a base pay of under 40k. He looked at me and was just crushed as it was about what he would make on a single game check. And he had CC bills, car payment, townhouse etc...
Many would make that trade if you told them they get to play even just once…game, play, season, etc.
As for the other stuff, it’s called life. We all go thru it at some point.
Close enough...a 25 man roster earning $600,000 each. Sounds like a few MLB teams. Maybe they shoymuld contract 4-6 teams. And anyway, the owners don't have to outlast Scherzer, they only have to outlast the huge number of players scheduled to make around the league average. They'll vote to cave before altruistic Max Scherzer.