The only way Columbus can improve is for half the population to leave and then have it re-settled. We left years ago and the demographics are not changing for the better.
Well, that wasn't racist.****
The only way Columbus can improve is for half the population to leave and then have it re-settled. We left years ago and the demographics are not changing for the better.
1) Education- HUGE problem. Mississippi always ranks at or near the bottom in this category. Big companies need a qualified workforce, and that's hard to come by in most of Mississippi. Our state leaders continue to show that education is not a priority to them.
50-75 years ago, Meridian could have easily been a Birmingham, or even Atlanta type city. Fairly progressive and thriving with industry. After the railroads started consolidating and moving operations out, Meridian could never recover. Add to that, The Hartley Peaveys and Paul Broadheads did their absolute damndest to starve meridian of any additional job growth, and they succeeded (Peavey has since moved the majority of what he has left overseas).
There also used to be a thriving Jewish presence that has all but disappeared and left Meridian to perish.
No doubt. Bed taxes and lottery are two huge money makers. Enough that we can say thanks but no thanks to the oil industries when they want to put offshore rigs off the coast. I was just surprised that the state sales tax was lower in Fl than MS.
You are correct. And there is a way to explain the discrepancy. In economics, its called PPP (purchasing power parity) and its used to compare the value of currency in one economy vs. a similar or different currency in another economy.Yes, the poster above (mcdawg22) doesn't seem to be able to acknowledge the natural differences in Florida and Mississippi.
But what he fails to mention is that the standard of living is lower in Florida for a certain income than in Mississippi. I know this to be fact. I cannot explain exactly where the discrepancy is but it is there. And, Florida is not very business friendly.
Oh gotcha. Well fwiw I was surprised to see that as well.No doubt. Bed taxes and lottery are two huge money makers. Enough that we can say thanks but no thanks to the oil industries when they want to put offshore rigs off the coast. I was just surprised that the state sales tax was lower in Fl than MS.
On this topic, I've always wondered which is true and I want to know what y'all think, but
- Is MS poor because we are uneducated?
or
- Is MS uneducated because we are poor?
3) The Delta- ever wonder why Mississippi ranks so low in so many categories? Visit the Delta. Culturally rich, socially and economically poor. I don't know what could be done to help the plight of the Delta, but there's a huge swath of land smack dab in the middle of the state where no outsider would ever want to live.
Surely there is something that can be done out there. Hunting, tourism, something?This is pretty accurate. If we gave the entire Delta to Louisiana and Arkansas, Mississippi would certainly move out of last place in a lot of the major categories (education, income, poverty, etc.). We'd still be bottom 10 in one or two of them, but that part of the state has been absolutely destitute for multiple decades now.
MS is poor because generations on top of generations of poor people who have been barred from or discouraged from access to education resulting in a culture that doesn't value it.
I assume you are talking about black people. But no, this isn't the issue either. The black folks that get an education move to Atlanta, so the retainage of population is still a problem.
There is a brain drain in MS. I'm just not certain if the brains are supposed to come back and create, or if you have to create to bring the brains back. If that makes sense.
I assume you are talking about black people. But no, this isn't the issue either. The black folks that get an education move to Atlanta, so the retainage of population is still a problem.
There is a brain drain in MS. I'm just not certain if the brains are supposed to come back and create, or if you have to create to bring the brains back. If that makes sense.
I completely agree with you in the brain drain, and that goes for all demographics, but MS
created its own issues in education through suppression for a century.
Think about this, I have very young children and my father's generation is the first to graduate high school with African American peers. As much as we like to talk about equality, we are not very far removed from oppression.
Didn't B'ham's mayor get thrown in prison a few years back?50-75 years ago, Meridian could have easily been a Birmingham, or even Atlanta type city. Fairly progressive and thriving with industry. After the railroads started consolidating and moving operations out, Meridian could never recover. Add to that, The Hartley Peaveys and Paul Broadheads did their absolute damndest to starve meridian of any additional job growth, and they succeeded (Peavey has since moved the majority of what he has left overseas).
There also used to be a thriving Jewish presence that has all but disappeared and left Meridian to perish.
So what about the other southern states? Doesn't seem to have slowed their population growth.
They are much better than what we have now, in Jackson. At the minimum, they are bigger, with bigger companies and greater revenue spread around.Didn't B'ham's mayor get thrown in prison a few years back?
You really want to be like Atlanta?
MS seems to be the only southern state that doesn't have ONE thriving urban area that attracts graduates with job opportunities and entertainment. If Jackson could make that turnaround, I think you would see it spread to other areas.
I tend to agree more with Desotocountydog and drt7891. That is not to say your point is not valid....it very much is. I just don't think your point is the reason we are seeing MS' population flatline.Well, the subject on this particular side-thread was education and poverty. I was addressing why education isn't valued in a lot of homes in MS, and you will see that same pattern across other southern states. Generational poverty doesn't explain it all, but it's a big piece of the picture. MS happens to have ensured that a very large percentage of the population stayed in poverty for decades.
I tend to agree more with Desotocountydog and drt7891. That is not to say your point is not valid....it very much is. I just don't think your point is the reason we are seeing MS' population flatline.
A lot of people in MS seems to be OK with things the way they are, because they can control things. There again, the competition is very fierce.
We cant have the lottery because its too much like gambling. At least thats what a blackjack dealer told me in tunica.
Seriously. I was in Jackson for the day last year and sat in the House balcony and was stunned at how stupid the lawmakers in this state are.
Mississippi politicians have put zero emphasis on economic growth and investing in creating a new and inviting image to bring high quality jobs that demand a high quality workforce (which, on its own will help fix some of our education and economic problems) and, instead, are busy making sure we thumb our nose at everyone else for being wrong or liberal or whatever. Our state government is totally ok with us being dead last in everything.
If there was a governor and congress that got their heads out of the sand and really focused on image and economic development, it'd be huge. Unfortunately, voters wouldn't vote for someone who would focus on improvement.
Again, the educated population seems all too eager to leave the state. It's a catch-22.That would require an educated population. An educated population might get ideas of it's own, such as un-electing these idiots that presently govern us. A lowly educated population is easier to control. Our politicians don't want people who think well, just mindless robots who'll go out and perform what few jobs they manage to entice here.
it seems to me that our political leadership has an attitude of "we're just po' lil ol Mississippi and we'll be happy to take whatever you can give us at whatever cost we need to pay" Just look at the incentives we throw at some of these big business to get them here. Try suggesting a bond issue on educational funding or maybe road improvement and folks raise holy hell. Bond issues to lure big business - not a peep. Even though we taxpayers are the ones on the hook for paying these bonds off.
Much of that may reflect the fall of U.S. Ag, which affected Mississippi so negatively since we invested so heavily into it. It is not always the politicians fault. One thing is for certain, we must do something long-term with the Delta, and I don't mean casinos.Mississippi took the longest to escape the Democrat Party. Hell I think we've only had a GOP governor AND both chambers since only 2012.
That is a fact some of you heartedly ignore. Can't fix 130 years of damage overnight.
Mississippi took the longest to escape the Democrat Party. Hell I think we've only had a GOP governor AND both chambers since only 2012.
That is a fact some of you heartedly ignore. Can't fix 130 years of damage overnight.
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