I always loved Bobby V as the Mets coach, but opposing teams hated the Mets. One thing I see every night is opposing players are talking and genuinely seem to respect the Mets as a team. Like him or not, Terry Collins has them playing the game the right way, and it shows. No showboating, or showing up the opposing players. I really believe this can only help them late in the season,as when the Bobby V teams played late in the year, even the worse teams seemed to raise their level of play, just to stick it to him!
OT:LET'S GO METS
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"The Mets now play Colorado.....which has the second worst record in MLB.....412
After that, they play Philly.....which has the worst record in MLB.....388
Then they play Boston....which has the second worst record in the AL.....455
Then they play Philly.....again ...the worst in MLB......388
Then they play Miami.....only better than Colorado and Philly.....413
Anyone else see the Mets having trouble holding off the Nationals while running THAT gauntlet ?
Sounds like a winning streak ahead for the Mets to me."
SAE....you have to admit that I called that one right.
But then it's really not hard to anticipate a Mets winning streak with four of their next five series vs. the three worst teams in MLB. Please.... Atlanta, Baltimore, and Tampa have had much more successful seasons than Miami, Philly, and Colorado....which ARE the three worst teams in MLB. Which group would you rather face ?
Be honest, the Mets next few weeks are a gift from MLB. And the fact that only the Yanks are left as a winning team on their schedule is I think unprecedented for a team battling to make the playoffs. As I said, Christmas comes early for Mets fans.
And BTW, thus far in the current series vs. the Yankees, Cleveland has started Danny Salazar (ERA of 3.30),Carlos Carrasco (ERA of 3.53), and Josh Tomlin (ERA of 2.03). Corey Kluber's ERA is 3.52. They have more than just one quality starter and we were fortunate to beat Salazar today.
After that, they play Philly.....which has the worst record in MLB.....388
Then they play Boston....which has the second worst record in the AL.....455
Then they play Philly.....again ...the worst in MLB......388
Then they play Miami.....only better than Colorado and Philly.....413
Anyone else see the Mets having trouble holding off the Nationals while running THAT gauntlet ?
Sounds like a winning streak ahead for the Mets to me."
SAE....you have to admit that I called that one right.
But then it's really not hard to anticipate a Mets winning streak with four of their next five series vs. the three worst teams in MLB. Please.... Atlanta, Baltimore, and Tampa have had much more successful seasons than Miami, Philly, and Colorado....which ARE the three worst teams in MLB. Which group would you rather face ?
Be honest, the Mets next few weeks are a gift from MLB. And the fact that only the Yanks are left as a winning team on their schedule is I think unprecedented for a team battling to make the playoffs. As I said, Christmas comes early for Mets fans.
And BTW, thus far in the current series vs. the Yankees, Cleveland has started Danny Salazar (ERA of 3.30),Carlos Carrasco (ERA of 3.53), and Josh Tomlin (ERA of 2.03). Corey Kluber's ERA is 3.52. They have more than just one quality starter and we were fortunate to beat Salazar today.
Just win. We lost a lot games earlier in the year when the offense did little. Nice to see them pick up the pitching when necessary in a park like this.
The goalposts are always moving with you. The ERAs of the first two Rockies' starters before the Mets pummeled them were John Gray(2.40) and Chris Rusin(3.99), and that's with playing half their games in that mile high launching pad. Based on what I saw, they are mediocre to bad starting pitchers. However, if I use your Indians pitchers' ERA equals respectable starters logic, then it shouldn't have been a foregone conclusion that the Mets would win those games. Even though that was exactly your point, when you predicted the Mets winning streak.
How is it when faced with similar facts regarding the Mets and Yankees, you reach completely different conclusions? You always seem to rationalize statistics in a way that makes you feel better about the Yankees, but then you either ignore or find a way to use those same statistics to slight the Mets. Are you incapable of seeing your own hypocrisy or are you just that consumed with hatred for the Mets and their fans?
1 Gray has started exactly four games for the Rockies, half of them vs. the Mets. So his ERA is not really all that significant, due to the limited number of games he's pitched. And Rusin's 3.99 IS significantly higher than Salazar's, Carrasco's, and Kluber's. Anyway, if one doesn't use "ERA equals respectable starters logic" exactly what DO you use to determine if a starter is respectable ? I've seen Salazar and Carrasco any number of times and IMO they are quality starters. I've never seen Rusin or Gray, but then I rarely watch baseball in the league where pitchers bat.
2. "when you predicted the Mets winning streak" had nothing to do with individual pitcher's ERA It had to do solely with the fact that the Mets upcoming schedule includes only the worst team in MLB, the second worst team in MLB(twice), the third worst team in MLB, and the second worst team in the AL. It's hard not to like a team's chances vs. THAT gauntlet....especially when they're playing for something and their opponents are not.
3. I also could have predicted an improvement in the Mets run-scoring, due to the fact that they were gonna be playing the team with by far the worst ERA in MLB (Colorado), and the teams with the next highest team ERAs....Philly and Boston.
4. I also predicted that the Mets would probably win their division, after looking at their schedule and noting that they have exactly ONE team left on it that has a winning record....their Big Brothers from the Bronx. And I believe that those three games are home games for the Mets.
So, how can one not think a team that has about 40 games left in a race for the playoffs and has a schedule that features exactly ONE winning team on it will not prevail in a race for a spot in the playoffs vs. a team that has played .500 ball for the season and looks to be fading ?
Don't be mad at me for pointing out the Mets good fortune. Just be thankful you're not fighting a real team like Toronto for a playoff spot.
2. "when you predicted the Mets winning streak" had nothing to do with individual pitcher's ERA It had to do solely with the fact that the Mets upcoming schedule includes only the worst team in MLB, the second worst team in MLB(twice), the third worst team in MLB, and the second worst team in the AL. It's hard not to like a team's chances vs. THAT gauntlet....especially when they're playing for something and their opponents are not.
3. I also could have predicted an improvement in the Mets run-scoring, due to the fact that they were gonna be playing the team with by far the worst ERA in MLB (Colorado), and the teams with the next highest team ERAs....Philly and Boston.
4. I also predicted that the Mets would probably win their division, after looking at their schedule and noting that they have exactly ONE team left on it that has a winning record....their Big Brothers from the Bronx. And I believe that those three games are home games for the Mets.
So, how can one not think a team that has about 40 games left in a race for the playoffs and has a schedule that features exactly ONE winning team on it will not prevail in a race for a spot in the playoffs vs. a team that has played .500 ball for the season and looks to be fading ?
Don't be mad at me for pointing out the Mets good fortune. Just be thankful you're not fighting a real team like Toronto for a playoff spot.
Why do you guys engage him?
21 pages of him accomplishing exactly what he wants to accomplish
21 pages of him accomplishing exactly what he wants to accomplish
Hey Hudson. This is actually fun. His "aw shucks" that statement wasn't aimed at diminishing the "Metsies" or their season seems to finally be gone. It's clear he can't bring himself to say a kind or respectful word about the Mets or their fans, so we're getting full hatred now.
Notice how things have changed. Before we were lucky to have the easy schedule, now we're lucky that we're not fighting with a "real" team for a playoff spot, and soon we'll be lucky that MLB actually counts games that we play.
The closer the Mets come to making the playoffs and the Yankees come to missing them, by losing to "dregs" like Cleveland, this guy becomes more unhinged. If that were to happen his sheer anger manifested in a psychokenetic wave, may actually blow up the internet.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
KBee is a sad old man. I bet his heart flutters a bit when some responds to his trolling (now complete with revisionist history).
On the other hand the Mets are freakin awesome and I see no reason why their winning won't continue. Consider that they are about a week away from having David Wright and Steve Matz back on the roster!
On the other hand the Mets are freakin awesome and I see no reason why their winning won't continue. Consider that they are about a week away from having David Wright and Steve Matz back on the roster!
I guess it's kind of interesting to look a team's opponent's winning percentage, though the winning percentage of the team's they've already played rather than will play is at least as interesting.
Very nice Willis. Sadly, it probably won't stop some from claiming the opposite.
I have to bump said request #2 down to #3, with the return of "The Captain" - a loyal son with a stellar career in a Mets uni (but sadly still soiled in my eyes due to the torture of the 2006 playoffs):
1) Cespedize us (requested of Mets management). Status = Complete.
2) Step up and atone for '06 (requested of The Captain). Status = Pending.
3) Ring us (requested of entire Mets team this October). Status = Pending.
1) Cespedize us (requested of Mets management). Status = Complete.
2) Step up and atone for '06 (requested of The Captain). Status = Pending.
3) Ring us (requested of entire Mets team this October). Status = Pending.
I'm on "your side" here overall, but that link doesn't mean what you say it means. Those are the winning % of opponents when they play the teams in the chart. The Cardinals are at .634 on the season, thus their opponents in the chart have a .366 winning percentage when they play the Cardinals.
This link http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos is sorted by opponent win% to date. Yes, the Mets have a below-average rating. So what? It's still the highest winning % of all teams in their division (i.e. the toughest schedule in the division to date). And would you look at that: the Dodgers and Giants are behind the Mets? Whaaaaattt??? I guess Kershaw, Greinke, and Bumgarner, while good pitchers, are overrated this year because they are beating up on weak opponents.
The Mets are now #2 in the league in runs allowed. Their much-mocked offense is only five runs scored behind the best record in MLB Cardinals on the season. Things are moving in the right direction for sure.
trumpet, I see what you mean, and it makes the chart I linked the most useless chart in the history of charting. Please disregard.
I think the whole schedule argument in baseball is silly. You end up playing everybody anyway. If you want to delve into it, you would need to factor in everything like who was on the disabled list when they played them? Did they miss the other team's best starter in the rotation? I'm a Cubs fan and I felt lucky to miss Bumgarner when they came to Chicago for 4 games. Still a tough team, but it doesn't hurt to miss their ace.
Mets playing in a wiffle ball stadium tonight. Got to tie with 2-3-4 batting in the fifth Mets down 7-5 after 5
NL mvp.....Carlos Gomez's hip injury!
This one is not over by a long shot but it's just nice that this team can not only win 1-0 and 2-1 games but also the 10-8 or 9-6 type of games when needed.
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You would think at some point, the Phils pitchers ought to be making the Mets batters feel a little less comfortable in the box by throwing inside. They are raking big time. 13-7
Mets should pretend to trade Wilmer more often.