Kind of thought we would get a douche parade today on this thread . . . Mets still 4.5 games up.
OT:LET'S GO METS
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Yeah...don't answer the question...just name call.
There is no team but the Metsies in the NL East with a winning record.
Now...go back to counting how many games you guys have left vs. the dregs of MLB.
So you're discounting the sweep of the Nats when they were 10 games over because they've been swept by 2 first place teams and the team leading the WC in the NL.
I assume the Yankees were still a good team when they were swept by Toronto and lost 2 of 3 to the "dreg" Indians. At least you get to play the upper echelon this week with both the Twinkies and Indians coming to town.
I'm just pointing out that the Metsies are leading a division so tough that they're the only team in the division that has won more games than it has lost. Congratulations.
The answer to the question is the Dodgers....back in mid July. Now...go back to counting how many games the Metsies have left against weak teams.
BTW, I think somewhere in this thread someone listed the Mets won/loss record vs. winning teams and also vs. losing teams. I'm sure it hasn't changed much since then.
Oh, and also BTW don't count on facing too many teams with losing records if the Metsies actually do make the playoffs.
Four of the Yankees next five series are against the Twinks, Cleveland, Atlanta, and Boston, but it's the Mets who are playing dregs?
The Metsies play their next two games against Baltimore. After that, the ONLY games they play vs. a team with a winning record is three vs. their Big Brothers from the Bronx. That's it...for the rest of the season.
BTW, the Twins are over .500 and sorta in the running for a wild card spot. And Boston just scored 37 runs in two games vs. Seattle....one started by King Felix. Thirty Seven runs is about a month's worth for the Mets, no ?
So Boston doesn't stink because of a 2 game winning streak and the Twins are almost good because the beat up on the Indians this week to get to .500. You'll rationalize anything. If the Mets take the two from Baltimore will that mean that they too stink when the Yanks play them after Boston? That would make six crap teams out of seven series for the Yanks. Regardless, I get the feeling that you'll continue to argue that the Mets play dregs while the Yanks have a tough road to the playoffs.
I prefer not to pretend that my team has a rough schedule. I could care less as long as we make the playoffs. I guess you'll be putting down the Yankees for having such a joke schedule or you'll profess that it's actually difficult because Boston had a two game win streak in August.
"I prefer not to pretend that my team has a rough schedule. I could care less as long as we make the playoffs. "
The Yankees play just about half of their remaining games vs. teams with a winning record...22 of 46.
The Mets play 5.
And I know you're just happy to make the playoffs.You're a Mets fan. I wouldn't expect anything else.
The Yankees play just about half of their remaining games vs. teams with a winning record...22 of 46.
The Mets play 5.
And I know you're just happy to make the playoffs.You're a Mets fan. I wouldn't expect anything else.
Ya know, I was actually shooting for irony when I started this whole "how many teams with a winning record did you beat" stuff in this thread. I was wondering how many Metsies fans were among those that kept repeating that crap here.....about THEIR Scarlet Knights.
Didn't think any of them would pick up on it.
Only here at Rutgers would that question be asked by members of its own fan base.
Weak schedule seems like an arbitrary thing to focus on. What about doping? All three pitchers that started the 2000 World Series for the Yankees were named in the Mitchell report. The 2008 Series was won on the back of the most infamous dope fiend in baseball history. I doubt that you have a problem with either championship, since, you bring them up with pride.
I actually find it ironic that you have an issue with a team that wins because of random scheduling than outright cheating. I guess the ends justify the means unless you're any team not named Yankees.
Fair enough. Can't argue with the nonsensical gibberish part, although that in itself does not imply a lack of managerial acumen. (See Stengel, Casey.)
I do believe that if the Mets had taken the lead in the 7th, we would have seen Clippard and Familia to try to nail it down. Whether we would have seen them in a tie game, we'll never know.
BTW, Goeddel not pitching well in St. Lucie. Would not be surprised if we don't see him until September 1. I think that for the next two weeks at least, we go to war with the army we have.
I don't worry about minor league numbers when I have a player who's been successful in the majors this year and another who's a disaster. I think Goedell should take Parnell ' spot and Verret should take Torres'. You could then put Robles in the 7th and have Verret as the righty long man. If Smoker is ready I would hope that he gets O'Flaherty 's spot. Like you said earlier, this bullpen really needs a shakeup.
Yankee fans and their creepy circle-jerk. You'd think they'd be happy to discuss their own team instead of trying to denigrate another.
It's a bizarre superiority complex for sure. I've never understood it, and that's why I'm not, nor ever shall be, a Yankees fan. I don't hate the Yankees, in fact I sometimes root for them in the AL (who wants to see Boston win anything), but many of their fans are just insufferable.
Is there a Yankees thread? Shoo!
Is there a Yankees thread? Shoo!
"He's only seventeen and he runs like he's thirty."--Casey Stengel
I'll take Ed. Or Keith Hernandez or Rusty Staub or Dave Kingman over yesterday's disaster at first.
It's really incredible just how weak the Met schedule is the rest of the way and how weak the divisional competition is.
Believe me Im not complaining. 5 games out of 44 remaining against "winning teams". And the Yankee series is at Citi.
It is conceivable that you could win the NL East with a losing record. The Nats would just have to play .500 baseball the rest of the way. The Giants could win 90+ and be sitting at home.
Again - not complaining just amazed.
That's good for off the top of your head. We cannot forget Ike Davis. Or Eddie Murray. Mike Jorgensen. Mo Vaughn and Lee Mazzili. Willie Mays played a little 1B too. I cheated, and looked here:
http://ultimatemets.com/positions.php?Position=1b
Kbee completely silent during the 7 game winning streak and 10 of 12. But he's here now, of course.
For the record, Yankees are 28-26 against >= .500 and 36-26 against <= .500.
Mets are 15-27 against >= .500 and 48-28 against <= .500.
The real problem for the Mets is they're 9-20 v. the Central Division.
Mets must also improve on the road in order to be considered serious contenders.
Mets are 15-27 against >= .500 and 48-28 against <= .500.
The real problem for the Mets is they're 9-20 v. the Central Division.
Mets must also improve on the road in order to be considered serious contenders.
1stand3rd I have to respectfully disagree. The Mets are definitely serious contenders for the post season just due to mathematics. If we play 500 ball the Nats still have to get their act together and play 600+ ball.
And if by serious contender you mean in the playoffs - I'd argue we are very serious contenders since 1) we'll be pitching degrom and Harvey and 2) with the innings limit I assume syndergaard becomes our 8th inning guy and the bullpen accordingly is "fixed"
Mike Jorgensen of Passaic lent a deathly blow to the theory of reincarnation as he was born on the day that Babe Ruth died.
I agree the Mets could be a strong playoff team, but I'm talking about the whole enchilada. :sunglasses:
Their pitching will get them there, but the bullpen and hitting has been too erratic.
I'm hopeful it all pulls together.
They've actually held their own against the powerful Cards at 3-4 but a combined 0-13 against the Pirates and Cubs.
Is the 2015 NL East the worse division in the history of MLB? Let's see:
Philly and Miami - two teams that may not have a winning record in Triple-A
Wash - the most underachieving team in a very long time
NYM - division "leaders" that get crushed by any good team it plays
Sounds like the answer is yes!
Philly and Miami - two teams that may not have a winning record in Triple-A
Wash - the most underachieving team in a very long time
NYM - division "leaders" that get crushed by any good team it plays
Sounds like the answer is yes!
Can we keep the (negative) hyperbole to a manageable level here? The Mets have gotten stomped by the Cubbies and the Pirates. Every other "good" team has pretty much been either a slight season win (Dodgers, Orioles) or even/slight season loss ( Giants, Blue Jays, Cardinals). Three more with the Yanks and unless the Yanks win 2 of 3 that will be a wash as well.
You beat the teams they put in front of you.
The answer is no, it won't be the "worse" division in MLB history. The 1994 AL West had a combined .437 winning percentage when the strike ended the season. Texas was in first place with a record of 52-62.
The 2002 AL Central had the worst record over a full season: .453 winning percentage. Yet the division champion Twins were 94-67 and advanced to the ALCS before losing to the Angels, who went on to win the World Series.
In 1999, the AL Central finished with a .457 percentage. Cleveland went 97-65, and the 2nd place White Sox were 75-86.
In 2005, the Padres won the NL West with a record of 82-80. Worst record ever to win a division.
Current winning % of the NL East is .455, which isn't good (duh). Figure 2/3 of the remaining games are within the division (Mets have 29 left out of 44, for example). That drives the projected % to around .464. If the division finishes 26-49 vs non-divisional opponents, then it will tie the 2002 AL Central for the worst record over a full season. The NL East would have to go 13-62 in non-divisional games down the stretch to the the 94 AL West for worst winning % of all time.
This morning's odds of winning the NL East, from baseball prospectus? 80.9%! WS Win %? 7.4%. Fangraphs has it at 68.1% and 4.8%.
Both systems have the Dodgers as the favorites to win it all. Kershaw + Greinke in a playoff series = danger.
Both systems have the Dodgers as the favorites to win it all. Kershaw + Greinke in a playoff series = danger.
Why does a Yankee fan care how weak the NL East is? You're team doesn't even play in the same league.
Parnell to DL and Verrett up. This should allow Robles to move to the 7th. Good move.
Now Goedell for Torres, hopefully.
This Yankees fan follows all of MLB....always has.
Why are Mets fans so defensive about this info ?