Interesting story about the people who found and protected her until police arrived. Apparently the woman out walking her dog who Closs approached took her to the first house and didn't get an answer when she knocked. They then went down the road to a teacher's house. After they let her in she asked them to "call police and get a weapon" fearing that the girl's abductor was pursuing them. Another reason to keep a gun in your home. Very fortunate timing for Jayme. I've read too many stories where there were such close calls where somebody could have been saved but either people didn't recognize what was going on or just missed by seconds an opportunity to save somebody from an abductor. Elizabeth Smart was so close on several occasions to being rescued many months before she finally was. The 3 women who were held for years had multiple close calls with rescues. If something doesn't look or feel right, call the cops and even then cops screw it up sometimes like they did with Elizabeth Smart.
OT: Jayme Closs
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The other question is how to prevent this, or fight off intruder when the attack comes, i.e. home defense. Did he simply knock on the door, it was opened asking what he wanted then he shoot his way in? Did he break in another door or window in the middle of the night?
I think I read that he somehow came in during broad daylight. It sounds like he didn't realize that her parents would be home. In a small town in rural Wisconsin who the hell is going to think that you need to have a gun in your hand when you answer the door? Just a bad bad deal from a crazy young guy who it sounds like played WAY too many video games. I'm telling you technology has taken mildly insane to a whole new level of crazy. The guy lived alone and hadn't worked in several years. How did he live? Government checks? Money from mom? I'm sure he had a free Obama phone. The whole deeper story of these events needs to be written about.
Right. Video games made him kill and kidnap. Makes sense. Please excuse me while I get off your lawn.
You forgot the Obama $ so that he could stay at home all day and smoke crack on his couch watching tv.
I didn't say they "made" him do it. I'm saying that for people who already have pre-existing mental health problems or tendencies to mental illness, technology can make those things worse. Just as therapy can help some people, wallowing in tv, movies, the internet, video games etc CAN most definitely make them worse.
He kidnapped her at 1am, shot the dad through the front door when he woke up to investigate what their dog was barking about...
Guy obviously had issues...Broken home...other family members had past criminal issues...this will be dissected a lot as more information comes out, but just thankful she saved herself. Hope all involved can get any and all help they may need to help them try to live as normal of a life as possible form here on out
While im not sure if that is true or not, that is a much more fair assessment then what I interpreted from the original post. Apologies for being a condescending dick.
Her father thought he was a police officer when he showed up at the door - demanding to see his badge. Then the guy just shot her dad in the head through the door.
It is in fact true that repeated down tone activities can be depressing and some people don't need much suggestion to take them over the edge. Then you add to it kids who start watching things they shouldn't be watching at a young age and their perception of reality can really get screwed up. One of my favorite sayings that I use is, "We're all crazy. It's just a matter of how crazy". There's just nothing positive that comes out of some of the things kids are subjected to today. I'm not saying we should ban them, but man they aren't a positive thing for most people.
I don't have to hear anything more. Just have him sit down on old sparky and let the current flow. Commit a violent crime with a gun or knife and FORFEIT YOUR LIFE!
One that is really sad worse than this was in cold blood. The farm family in Kansas that was killed by two loser that thought this family had money. Believe it was the clutter family. Happened in th 1950's . Don't get me wrong this girls abduction was terrible
That would be too easy for him. Electrocution is pretty painless. I've been knocked out by an overhead wire and really it was kind of cool. Everything just went white and I came to laying on the ground wondering what the hell had happened....then I saw the bare wire I had hit my head on.
I like how the Indians would do it, steak you down with wet leather strapped to each of your limbs then as the leather dries it shrinks and tears you apart. That would be appropriate
I'm kind of a rebel so I'll roll the dice and assume that nobody accompanied by an abducted teenager she found comes knocking on my door and is concerned the abductee's captor might be in pursuit. But I'm also the guy who doesn't tape over the webcam on his laptop, read end-user agreements before accepting them, or let the oven fully preheat before throwing in a pizza. I've also been known to turn off airplane mode on my phone before the pilot says it's OK and to take the elevator during a fire drill.
He shot through a locked door with a 12 guage shotgun. I believe there was a decorative window on the door so he could see the father’s position. He then shot the lock off and entered the home. Found the mom and girl hiding in the bathroom. Shot the mom and took off with the girl. Said he was at the house for about 4 minutes.
No Felons and Criminals are Democrats. Republicans with guns help prevent crimes. That's why Dems do everything they can to get violent criminal Felons to vote.
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