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johnson86-1

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Is this one true, a solid majority?

My Googling tells me that 55% of Mississippians own a gun, with it dropping to 40-45% when you only look at college educated Mississippians. This board is not necessarily representative of all college educated Mississippians, but I'd be surprised if we're that different.
Well I guess I was way off on my assumption on that one unless the googled number is incorrect. And I think you're right that we wouldn't be that different. I'd guess this board skews more towards gun owning than the general college educated population in Mississippi, but I don't know what would make it a major deviation such that 80 or 85% of us (or even 60-65% of us) would own guns when college educated in the state only own guns at a 40-45% rate. Unless caring about college sports is highly correlated with gun ownership, which I would bet it is to some extent, but probably not enough to move the needle that much.
 
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I would assume the solid majority of people here have a bachelors degree, have a gun in their home, and have two parents from the US. Probably can add having children to that and still keep a majority, maybe a solid majority. So you're really talking about 4 or 3 questions that are going to differentiate most of us.

The above $110k household income is probably pretty split on this board? $110k in income is still an upper level salary, even for college educated people, but with two working adults and at least one of them college educated, I would assume somewhere in the 40-50% of married people on here have a household income of above $110k?

After that, it's basically just a handful of you godless, homosexual promoting heathens versus the rest of us.**
Why were you looking at my answers?!?
 

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So if I say it’s normal for a person to have 2 legs that not a verifiable truth but just an agreed upon reality?
Not among 1-legged butt kickers.*** You are talking about physical attributes which is not the topic of the thread or survey. It's pretty normal to just have either a ****** or a pecker and nuts, but if there are such things as hermaphrodite conventions, it would not be "normal" there...
 

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Is this one true, a solid majority?

My Googling tells me that 55% of Mississippians own a gun, with it dropping to 40-45% when you only look at college educated Mississippians. This board is not necessarily representative of all college educated Mississippians, but I'd be surprised if we're that different.
I've always been frustrated by gun ownership statistics as they usually incorrectly imply that nearly every American owns a gun. Collectors heavily skew that metric. I rarely shoot, but I own over ten guns.
 
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I would assume the solid majority of people here have a bachelors degree, have a gun in their home, and have two parents from the US. Probably can add having children to that and still keep a majority, maybe a solid majority. So you're really talking about 4 or 3 questions that are going to differentiate most of us.

The above $110k household income is probably pretty split on this board? $110k in income is still an upper level salary, even for college educated people, but with two working adults and at least one of them college educated, I would assume somewhere in the 40-50% of married people on here have a household income of above $110k?

After that, it's basically just a handful of you godless, homosexual promoting heathens versus the rest of us.**
Interesting take and probably correct, I'm just off base in my thinking. All of my kids are under 33 and they each make six figures already. I suppose that my view is skewed toward white collar/business, although one of my kids is in the construction industry. My, what I would consider mid-level, $60k salary back in 2000 had more purchasing power than today's $110k salary does.

I wonder what the pack considers a good salary for 20's/30's/40's/50's...
 
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I've always been frustrated by gun ownership statistics as they usually incorrectly imply that nearly every American owns a gun. Collectors heavily skew that metric. I rarely shoot, but I own over ten guns.
True - I own several guns (shotguns, rifles) that are only taken out of storage location for cleaning. I have not shot a gun in 25-30 years.
 
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Interesting take and probably correct, I'm just off base in my thinking. All of my kids are under 33 and they each make six figures already. I suppose that my view is skewed toward white collar/business, although one of my kids is in the construction industry. My, what I would consider mid-level, $60k salary back in 2000 had more purchasing power than today's $110k salary does.

I wonder what the pack considers a good salary for 20's/30's/40's/50's...

From what I can tell, starting salaries are still pretty low in Mississippi. I do feel like if you're college educated and not hitting that $90k to $100k range fairly quickly, you are falling behind, even in Mississippi. But I also feel like you are still doing pretty well if you make it to more than $110k as an individual. Certainly nothing like what a "six figure income" meant 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago), but still pretty good.

That's out of my *** numbers though other than I did check and google says $110k still puts you in the 80th% of college graduates in Mississippi. And if you have a married couple each making $110k, you're in the 90th percentile household income nation wide, which is pretty solid and presumably looks really good in most places in Mississippi.
 
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I've always been frustrated by gun ownership statistics as they usually incorrectly imply that nearly every American owns a gun. Collectors heavily skew that metric. I rarely shoot, but I own over ten guns.
Yeah, I have long thought there should be some categorical breakdown to better understand gun ownership in the US. It would help clarify ownership motivation and interest.

If we actually did have categorical breakdown, I am guessing many would push back on providing accurate info due to reactionary fear and also due to a general desire to just be obstinate.

- I actively carry on a daily basis and/or have quick home access for protection.
- I own one or more guns and only use them for hunting or sport.
- I own one or more guns and almost never even touch them(granpappy's hunting rifle that was passed down to me).
- I do not currently own one or more guns but have in the past.
- I have never owned a gun.
 
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From what I can tell, starting salaries are still pretty low in Mississippi. I do feel like if you're college educated and not hitting that $90k to $100k range fairly quickly, you are falling behind, even in Mississippi. But I also feel like you are still doing pretty well if you make it to more than $110k as an individual. Certainly nothing like what a "six figure income" meant 20 years ago (or even 10 years ago), but still pretty good.

That's out of my *** numbers though other than I did check and google says $110k still puts you in the 80th% of college graduates in Mississippi. And if you have a married couple each making $110k, you're in the 90th percentile household income nation wide, which is pretty solid and presumably looks really good in most places in Mississippi.

Below are some numbers that came from a 2026 Fidelity report and are collected from multiple sources. FIDELITY REPORT
The US median wage for those with a 4 year degree is almost $10-20,000 less than what you view as the threshold to not fall behind, even in Mississippi.

So this could be looked at a couple of ways-
- your perspective on what college educated employees should be earning, as well as what 'falling behind' means, is heavily skewed and not close to reality.
- your perspective is actually accurate and therefore even a large portion of 4 year degree holders are financially falling behind.


According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the typical full-time worker in the US...would total about $64,220 per year.(MEDIAN WAGE)


Average US salary by age(MEDIAN WAGE)​

  • 16 to 19: $603 per week ($31,356 per year)
  • 20 to 24: $810 per week ($42,120 per year)
  • 25 to 34: $1,140 per week ($59,280 per year)
  • 35 to 44: $1,384 per week ($71,968 per year)
  • 45 to 54: $1,435 per week ($74,620 per year)
  • 55 to 64: $1,348 per week ($70,096 per year)
  • 65 and older: $1,246 per week ($64,792 per year)


Average US salary by education level(MEDIAN WAGE)​

  • Less than a high school diploma: $784 per week ($40,768 per year)
  • High school graduates: $977 per week ($50,804 per year)
  • Some college (including associate degree): $1,138 per week ($59,176 per year)
  • Bachelor’s degree: $1,609 per week ($83,668 per year)
  • Advanced degree: $1,982 per week ($103,064 per year)
 

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I wonder what the pack considers a good salary for 20's/30's/40's/50's...

Depends on your profession.

I’m in education, so I’m likely in the lower half income-wise of gainfully employed Six Packers and I’m including my PERS benefits.

Compared to my work colleagues, I’m just above the 90th percentile.

I’ve not paid credit card interest in years, so even though I’m Six Pack Poor, I’m not doing too badly…

Is this one true, a solid majority?

My Googling tells me that 55% of Mississippians own a gun, with it dropping to 40-45% when you only look at college educated Mississippians. This board is not necessarily representative of all college educated Mississippians, but I'd be surprised if we're that different.

I don’t own a gun.

I’m not against guns, but folks on the Spectrum are seven times more likely to attempt suicide than the general population.

I’d rather not have easy access if it gets really really rough for me…
 

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Depends on your profession.

I’m in education, so I’m likely in the lower half income-wise of gainfully employed Six Packers and I’m including my PERS benefits.

Compared to my work colleagues, I’m just above the 90th percentile.

I’ve not paid credit card interest in years, so even though I’m Six Pack Poor, I’m not doing too badly…



I don’t own a gun.

I’m not against guns, but folks on the Spectrum are seven times more likely to attempt suicide than the general population.

I’d rather not have easy access if it gets really really rough for me…
My wife is a teacher. She just shook her head when our kids all started out equal or better than her salary and she is near retirement. She also loves her job, if very good at it, and has been making a difference in the lives of kids for a long time. I hope PERS holds out long enough for her to benefit from that because it is one of the primary incentives.
 

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So this could be looked at a couple of ways-
- your perspective on what college educated employees should be earning, as well as what 'falling behind' means, is heavily skewed and not close to reality.
- your perspective is actually accurate and therefore even a large portion of 4 year degree holders are financially falling behind.
It's the former. I meant "falling behind" as in the lifestyle I think most upwardly mobile people aspire to now. Probably too much of a personal yardstick to be useful. Just thinking about if I had a son that had been in the workforce 5 or 6 years, where would he need to be for me to feel he is on a track that will lead to a upper middle class or lower upper class lifestyle. Probably also very much industry and career dependent. Some are a slow and steady climb, some are put in your dues but make a huge jump if you excel.
 
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My wife is a teacher. She just shook her head when our kids all started out equal or better than her salary and she is near retirement. She also loves her job, if very good at it, and has been making a difference in the lives of kids for a long time. I hope PERS holds out long enough for her to benefit from that because it is one of the primary incentives.
PERS is also one of the reasons older teachers get screwed on salary. Starting teacher pay is good for a four year degree (or at least was pre-covid; not sure how they have fared with all the inflation), but they they fall behind successful people in other fields the longer they work, but the legislature can't do something more reasonable (like focus on raising the top end of the teacher scale instead of the bottom end) because they don't want to deal with the political fallout of adding pay that isn't included in a PERS formula, and PERS can't afford for them to focus pay on the high end because it adds tons more liability while not increasing the contributions for employees that will be in the workforce the longest.
 

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PERS is also one of the reasons older teachers get screwed on salary.

Eh… It’s more so the individual districts, community colleges, and IHLs.

Certain places have been known to pay better than others.

Obtaining higher salaries was often dependent upon being able to advance to supervisory positions at some places and when you can’t advance, you sometimes try to make lateral moves… I tried this unsuccessfully a couple times and just bided my time until I was retirement eligible

Recently, a longtime co-worker got tired of working the same position for years and decided to make their side hustle full-time for more money which means the high 4 will be a higher 4 than what had been expected…