OT: GoT

[Uncle Ruckus]

i won't spoil anything for people who haven't read the book, but this season, more than any before, has really deviated from the books. I'm very interested to see how things tie together. No idea where they're going with the Sansa storyline. I'm guessing Littlefinger has her in place to marry Ramsey, rally the northern lords together like during Roberts rebellion and have the Boltons murdered somehow by using Sansa so he'd effectively be in control or the Erie and Winterfell, basically controlling the north. Will Brienne find confront her in Winterfell and Sansa go L.S. on her and Pod? When will we see Robert Strong? Is Jamie or Bronn replacing Oakheart? Is the confrontation between Hotah and Oakheart's replacement going to happen? Is Jorah going to take Connington's spot in Tyrions man overboard mishap? Is the curly headed dude Hizdar Zo Loraq?
eta - Was that Rattleshirt in Ep. 1? If it wasn't then does Brienne replace ***** in rescuing 'Jeyne'?

 

[The Maroon Pug]

I agree with your assumption on Littlefinger's plan. He is one of my favorites on the show just because of his schemes. I just started the 4th book so some of these names you mentioned I'm not familiar with. Which "queen" will Jorah take Tyrion too? He would not be able to get anywhere Dany would he? I was assuming he would take him back to Cersi.

Jamie and Bronn's storyline will be fun to watch. Still have a feeling another Lannister will die this season.

Ramsey telling Littlefinger "I will never harm Sansa" was troubling to me, especially the way his ***** train looked at Sansa entering Winterfell.

Arya's story is most interesting to me at this point, just because of all the unknowns she will have to endure soon. Also, hiding needle will come back to bite her in the butt probably.

 

[Sutterkane]

*****SPOILERS******




Hizdar was cast last season, yes he's the curly headed dude. I think they're skipping Tyrion's trip on the shy maid.

I don't know where they are going with Sansa at all, but somebody's got to turn Brienne against Jaime. I think Baelish has a plan that he gave Sansa, but they aren't revealing it yet. You have to think that if Sansa sees Theon that she will freak out about it; they may not have been friends but at worst they were cordial with each other; of course that's prior to him allegedly killing and burning her brothers, but nobody deserves the fate he currently has, even if he did do the things everyone thinks he did. Could be interesting too; Ramsay *loves* destroying people physically and emotionally; and he won't be able to do that with Sansa.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I think Sansa will replace LS. She'll start exacting revenge on the people who ruined her family starting with the Boltons, then the Lannisters and Freys. Brienne and Pod will encounter her again like they did LS, Sansa finds out Brienne has Jaime's sword when she finds out its Valyrian, then sends her to kill Jamie for revenge of him crippling Bran.

 

[uptowndawg]

I can't really decide if I like the changes yet. And there was an interview a while back that indicated that people still alive at the end of book 5 will be killed in the show this season. Not excited about that.

I think your right on the sansa/littlefinger plan. But doubt that everything goes according to plan, I can't help but think that she might try to betray littlefinger at some point. I think the first time we see Robert Strong in the books is for Cersei's 'walk'. I could see them introducing him the same way for the show. Hopefully Bronn takes the place of Oakheart. Jorah most likely will replace Connington, I could see him going over to the Golden Company and young g. (if they even will be in the show) after the way he was dismissed by Danny. Tyrion mentioned greyscale last night which makes me this that it will have some sort of upcomming significance in his stroyline - and if his storyline will include Jorah, then yea, Jorah could replace Connington.
I could still see 'jeyne' having the same rescuer as in the books.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

So you don't think it was RS? In the books he was screaming how he wasn't who they said he was, that's why I think it wasn't him and really who it looked like it was. But that's s pretty big twist from the books, unless said character doesn't have a lot left to say in the series. The Jaqen Hghar deal is interesting as well. I'm certain he was the guy who kills Pate in the Prologue to book three I believe, but now he's at the house of b/w. Is it really him or is that a face? I assumed in the books he was the alchemist or whoever it was, kills pate, takes his face then is the person in the citadel acting as pate. Aemon wasn't feeling well last night, does this mean he is staying put and the whole citadel storyline is whiped? So many questions.

 

[uptowndawg]

Took me a while to figure out who RS was and what you we're talking about. But I read your ***** as being the guy who jumps over the wall with Jeyne - I could still see him doing that with our Jeyne replacement in the show. As for who you were really talking about - it wouldn't be as big of a deviation as some other show deviations for ***** to actually be dead as long as he doesn't have any major part to play in the upcoming books.

That was damn exhausting to type without spoilers.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Are you asking me who he is taking him to or are you thinking out loud? I'm trying my best not to put any spoilers in here.

 

[The Maroon Pug]

I'm just thinking out loud.
I need to catch up in the books.

Here are some real questions:
1) what is this "episode 5" people are talking about on social media?
2) How accurate is this L+R=Jon Snow theory? I dont know if I fully believe it.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I have no idea about the episode 5 thing, to my knowledge it hasn't been leaked out. R + l = J is only a theory. There's no real facts about it from what you haven't read. Look up the article on GRRM'a initial Ice and Fire plot that was leaked. It has some things in it that hint to that theory as he originally intended Jon and Arya to have feelings for each other and Jon finds out that Ned isn't his dad. Davos did an interview earlier this year that said that something this season will top the red wedding. I assume that he knows the book story lines so I'm thinking it's something that we don't know about yet or something completely new, but if it is from the books he is probably talking about what happens in the end of book 5.

 

[engie]

I'm thinking the "pies" or some variation thereof...

I'm interested to see what happens with the Umbers. They have a big role to play most likely with Greatjon being absent for the RW and Rickon being at Last Hearth in the show. Seems they will be taking the place of the Manderlys for sure and maybe more than that...

 

[Chesusdog]

It has definitely deviated to the point that it truly is it's own story now. The books will always be better as they are the real story, but I can embrace the changes and enjoy the show for what it is.

Anyone who is dead or dies this season is likely not to play a huge role in the ending of the real story. GRRM gave them enough information that I don't think they'd kill someone crucial to the end of the story.

Sansa marrying the Bolton bastard.... that's way, way out there. But I guess they couldn't just have her sit in the Eyrie all this time. Crazy that the last published chapter of her was 10 years ago. She will replace the fake Arya (poor Jeyne Poole) and hopefully she'll get treated better.

I think they killed the real Mance in the tv show. I'm not sure what this means for the Wildlings. Ollie won't be happy if Jon pardons them. I'm kind of sad we didn't get the "Edd, fetch me a block" line last night.

Robert Strong will be making an appearance if Dr. Frankenstein has him ready in time. I'm assuming he'll show up near the end of the season.

I guess it's official that the Ironborn just aren't going to be a part of the story anymore. No Euron, no Damphair, etc. The brief bit of Asha (or Yara) last season was pretty weak. I assume we'll get something from her again this season but I'm not expecting much.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

17 Euron and Damphair, I want Victarian. He's my favorite character in the books and was very disappointed when I heard he wouldn't be in it, which could tell us that they have little to do with the end game.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

If Rickon and Osha really are at last hearth then that will be disappointing. Having Davos go to Skagos would have been pretty 17ing cool.

 

[engie]

If Rickon and Osha really are at last hearth then that will be disappointing. Having Davos go to Skagos would have been pretty 17ing cool.

That is where they were going upon their splitting from Bran's group in the show. Personally, I'd rather see the place that's got a clear role to play in the story to come. The Umbers still have a big role to play...

 

[aerodawg.sixpack]

Several of the story lines have caught up with the books. George RR Martin hasn't finished his latest book and it keeps getting pushed back. Most of this was known before they decided to make the show though as they planned for 7 seasons from the beginning. Pretty much from this point on, it should mostly be looked at as a standalone television show and not a portrayal of the books. Some of the stories are still catching up but a few have pretty much been tapped out.